Spaceframe Imps

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:25 pm

speeddemon wrote:whos building the spaceframes?

Mike the chap that owns the black stiletto built the frame and all new body panels and all the engineering side of it was done by stuat at rodwell motorsport ,car is looks fantastic and goes like stink you dont need bike power or any other form of engine when you see how this car goes i think my old mate knocker is in for a run to the flag with this should make for some close racing

I also got the letter from cscc and am looking forward to this taking off

col

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:30 pm

are you going , will ctach you there if so? is the black stiletto going , looking forward to a blast against all the imps on the come back

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:30 pm

a spaceframe can be made to take any power unit, would be a nice tidy lump. I spoke to Tim with regrads to fibreglass shells last year and they were well over 1800 quid just for a body.

I have a spare davrian imp body i advertised it for £250 and had no takers, always a hard job getting money out of imp fans, plenty talkers not many takers LOL

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:33 pm

PS, hang fire on the fiat engine, 16 valve Imp engine on the way. 186 hp 12000 rpm gaurantead and no bullshit, carnt say much at the moment but it might make the national.

That will give plenty imp fans sleepless nights and hard ons hahahahahha

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:44 pm

with the hard on hahahahahaahha im married pm sent

ImpManiac · Post by **ImpManiac** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:28 pm

All of this talk is most exciting... Brand new Stilettos... Brand new spaceframe racers... A new category for Modsports-type vehicles... 16-valve Imp lumps...

Going to struggle to get to sleep. Not much danger of rolling out of bed, though...

IM

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:40 am

speeddemon wrote:are you going , will ctach you there if so? is the black stiletto going , looking forward to a blast against all the imps on the come back

Yes Colin will be there as well as the lovely black stiletto and will be along in mine so should be a good turn out enough for an grid of Imps.
Roll on June. Stuart hope you are reading this

I know you like a drive..

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:42 am

colin rooney wrote:
speeddemon wrote:whos building the spaceframes?
Mike the chap that owns the black stiletto built the frame and all new body panels and all the engineering side of it was done by stuat at rodwell motorsport ,car is looks fantastic and goes like stink you dont need bike power or any other form of engine when you see how this car goes i think my old mate knocker is in for a run to the flag with this should make for some close racing

I also got the letter from cscc and am looking forward to this taking off

col

Best order those tyres then!!

Megapin · Post by **Megapin** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:24 am

Got that invite too so will be there in the Elan.
Exploded the BDG at Croft last weekend so will have to get crackin to get something else in !

Clive Brown · Post by **Clive Brown** » Mon May 02, 2011 4:07 pm

Exploded a BDG? Ouch!

It was the cost of exploding a proper 1975cc BDG that put an end to George Bevan's two litre Stiletto programme with Rob Mason at the wheel in 1977.

A new block then cost about £1700, a crank £600. God only knows what a good BDG costs these days.

Regards

Clive

ImpManiac · Post by **ImpManiac** » Mon May 02, 2011 4:15 pm

Clive Brown wrote:God only knows what a good BDG costs these days.

Not only God.

BURTON POWER (CLICKY) do too. Mind you, you need as much money as God to afford one! An alloy block alone for one costs £4070.63!

IM

Megapin · Post by **Megapin** » Mon May 02, 2011 4:40 pm

Yes it was an alloy blocked BDG. Salvaged the head only. Everything else is scrap including the bellhousing.
Farndon Steel crank & rods etc etc.......sob sob.
Repacement cost of a full engine is approx £28k !
Think I'll be putting something else in.

Meltdown · Post by **Meltdown** » Mon May 02, 2011 4:43 pm

Megapin wrote:Yes it was an alloy blocked BDG. Salvaged the head only. Everything else is scrap including the bellhousing.
Farndon Steel crank & rods etc etc.......sob sob.
Repacement cost of a full engine is approx £28k !
Think I'll be putting something else in.

Ouch! Have you considered a 2.0 BMW unit? Popular engine for historic sports cars eg Chevron.

ImpManiac · Post by **ImpManiac** » Mon May 02, 2011 5:19 pm

If it needs to be historic, fair enough. But what about a Duratec or something modern? I am guessing that it needs to be an age-related engine, though.

IM

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Mon May 02, 2011 5:55 pm

Just sent the forms back for the test day at Mallory on 29th june for the revival meeting. Whos in whos out, let me know.

I will take JOnes to see if we can get some quick laps in.

Megapin · Post by **Megapin** » Tue May 03, 2011 5:55 pm

What is a quick lap around Mallory in a saloon these days ?
I've only ever done it in a single seater.

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:01 pm

I put quick hahhahhah

Meltdown · Post by **Meltdown** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:22 pm

Megapin wrote:What is a quick lap around Mallory in a saloon these days ?
I've only ever done it in a single seater.

Depends on whether they use the new chicanes. I think the Bus Stop is bikes only, but Edwina's seems to be used almost always, not sure about the one around Gerards?

SimonBenoy · Post by **SimonBenoy** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:26 pm

No chicanes last year.

Meltdown · Post by **Meltdown** » Fri May 06, 2011 6:27 pm

blown_imp wrote:Those BMW M12 engines are even more costly than the BDG

I did wonder...and I should think a Hart unit would be even more again. Goes some way to explaining why Chevron B8s are so pricey - they're not overly rare, just breathtakingly pretty

ImpManiac · Post by **ImpManiac** » Fri May 06, 2011 7:03 pm

Meltdown wrote:Goes some way to explaining why Chevron B8s are so pricey - they're not overly rare, just breathtakingly pretty

Rapid too, mind.

EDIT - By the way, the BMW M12 was the turbocharged F1 engine. The Chevrons used the M10, which was the road car engine and the basis for the M12 and other rather special racing engines, including the Apfelbeck F2 motor (click here)...

IM

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Wed May 11, 2011 7:15 pm

5 spaceframe imps should be there in June. The decision for who takes part on the actual race day in August will be made after that .

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Wed May 11, 2011 10:04 pm

Andy as far as i know there is
speeddemon
rob knox
brian harrington/tom carey who drives brians car
a chap with a davrian stiletto
and myself

hope this helps

col

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:49 pm

What powers that?

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri May 13, 2011 9:17 am

OH right I know that car.

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:29 pm

There should b 4 imp andy who,s names have you got down as for a mini scaring them away no chance ,if you ask me if it wasent for imps amd minis over the years racing would not have been worth watching
col

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:09 pm

i can contact rob and brian they put there names in the hat can you find out why there names are not down as your in direct contact with cscc as it would be a waste of time for them to go to mallory on the 29th to be told there not on the list ,i paid my membership but have had no reply from cscc

col

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:20 pm

im racing at anglesey on the 25th and 26th so i just hope the car dosent get damaged as i wont have any time to repair it before the wednesday

col

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:21 pm

Well the engine is all in bits at the moment, as a new block was needed from my last visit to Lydden

but it's all in good hands or safe hands now..
I have been away so I will post it off tomorrow.

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:24 pm

I will be there ok

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:46 pm

andy wilson wrote:has long as the cars are there in body you get a chance for the race there dont have to be running

Well that's handy Andy...

stuartbrownsey · Post by **stuartbrownsey** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Rob

Maybe you could put a message on Lyden's
notice board to see if anyone has found a complete
Imp rod and piston, lost around Devils Elbow area
Could have some scrap value.

See you on the 29th

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:33 pm

Sounds like a few people have had some troubles , lets hope the cars that have been sick can make it to either Anglessy or Mallory.

Got my revised power unit and gearbox back from Andy Jones, just fired it all up today, all good so we should have no probs for both the above events.

Both of us sharing the drive so looking forward to it.

See you all there.

Mike

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:17 pm

there should be 5 imps at mallory

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:08 pm

rob knox,brian harrington,mike balby ,tony hansford and myself the harrington car may be down as tom carey

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:18 pm

ok cheers mate i will get brian to check it out

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:32 am

Come on Harrington, put that polish down

Woodstock · Post by **Woodstock** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:54 pm

andy wilson wrote:and miles castaldini davrian mk8

Wow. How spooky is that?
I do not normally answer the sales lines at work (Webcon) but I just took a message from someone called Miles Castaldini ordering a Weber lever. I'm guessing it must be the same person.

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:41 pm

car is ready but im not i wont be up

col

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:58 pm

Well haven been to anglesey for the weekend im wrecked and the other reason if they want cars to race there will be a lot quicker imps than mine to choose from

col

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:03 pm

Cheers Andy but im not that pushed im racing in ireland in september

col

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:19 pm

Well i joined the cscc and yes im well up to support a series but i have my reasons for not going on wednesday ,to me they may be right and may well be wrong to everyone else ,im not going to say on here why

i will just keep running with the irish lads and may do a few semsec rounds

col

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:28 pm

Turned out to be a great day at mallory park although not before having to retreive our bonnet which parted from the car on the M62 a quick rivet with some perspect and tank tape and we got on our way.

There were 43 cars i think in all, with 3 imps taking part and the place was buzzing with nostalgia and lots of enthusiasm. After a brief chat with the organisers it seems that there is going to be a series next year of around four rounds, so dust off the mod sports cars and historics and get cracking. We will throw our weight behind it from the HTS as well, so with a bit of look smaller engined cars will be represented.

As for the day, I took the car out first and put around 5 laps and after a brief stop Andy Jones took over to try some different settings. It wasnt long before he was into the groove and he soon realised that the car was wanting some heavy flat out driving. the next sessions went smooth and after a fantstic full breakfast laid on by the wife, we all went back to the pit wall to try again. I felt i had the car going in the right direction and was happy with the progress and let Jonesy finish of the test. With so many higher powered cars on the circuit, Nothing seemed to faze the lad and he went quicker and quicker at one point he was toe to toe with Big berth and was cruisng on his tail flat out on the back straight. It was some show of speed and driving. I must admit i was abit worried at that stage and whhen he brought the car in safe and sound he explained he was going to pass the guest car on the outside round the first corner, but didnt want to upset anyone hahahahah, We all cracked up laughing.

the 2 other imps that came out got plenty laps in and the test proved great all round.

the big day is on August bank holiday 29th so if you want to watch some historic sports cars down that nck of the woods Mallory would be a good place to start.

great day alround, Just need a new bonnet now

Regards Mike

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:49 am

Mike, was good to meet up with you put a face to the name, car looked very well turned out.
See it's now on e-bay

ChrisBenoy · Post by **ChrisBenoy** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:31 pm

Some photos posted on behalf of Mike (Speeddemon)

Mike, Steve mechanic and Jonesy.

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:13 am

Thanks for uploading the pics chris, as you can see its not exactly speedo,s weather at Anglessy. The AG Shrigley imp in the paddock and ready for its first race. The picture of the 3 hillmans out together is at Mallory for the revival test. The race meeting itself is on 29th august at Mallory, there are 3 races in total so if you live in that area make a date and come see the races.

Regrads

Mike

Woodstock · Post by **Woodstock** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:16 pm

knocker wrote:
This stunning example will be out on the 15th of May at Lydden as well as my Stiletto so anyone else looking to fill the grid up. Maguire Mini, Maguire Metro etc
http://www.semsec.org.uk

Regards

Rob.

Saw this a Lydden on Sat 9th July - Robbed of a podium in first race after a tap from a Mini

but was 1st OUTRIGHT in the second race

Check out http://lyddenhill.rubberduckdoes.com/ for pics of this (and also some Davrians in the morning sprint)

chris · Post by **chris** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:41 pm

never been good at pinstripes

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:18 pm

There are 3 spaceframe imps ok 2 are stiletto's bike engine cars,on Pistonheads when was the last time you saw that !!

Anyone know of the 2 Stiletto's ? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=946

les998 · Post by **les998** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:59 pm

Hi Robert,

The Black one is my old car that is at the start of this forum on Spaceframe Imps, well some of the pictures are of this car, and i'm afraid it was me that fitted the Bike engine !!!!!
Hear is a small clip of it in action

Les