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AutoSolo's - A great way into motorsport with any imp etc

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In response to Mark I and Grahame C request for more imps to compete is following something the club should consider:

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2007 Newcomer's AutoSOLO Challenge

supported by Demon Tweeks Direct


As part of the BTRDA’s continued drive to encourage new competitors into Motorsport, it has decided to promote an AutoSOLO series in 2007. There is a growing interest in this new branch of sport at Club level, as it enables competitors to use standard, road going cars with minimal preparation, whilst still remaining highly competitive and is, therefore, a natural lead for new competitors into other branches of the Sport.



The Challenge consists of a number of “qualifying” rounds, throughout the UK to reduce travelling costs, with a “Grand Final” run by the BTRDA in November. These events will also count for the Allrounders Championship.



The Class structure is:



A Production Saloon and Sports Cars up to 1400cc

B Production Saloon and Sports Cars from 1401cc to 1800cc

C Production Saloon and Sports Cars over 1800cc

D All other Cars.

* my local club also has a class for pre 1972 vehicles..

The series is open to anyone aged 21 or less on 1st January 2007, or anyone who has not held a MSA Competition Licence in the previous 10 years. The first round of the Challenge was run by Knutsford & District Motor Club on 21st January at Demon Teeks Direct in Wrexham and the next is the Bolton-le-Moors AutoSOLO on the 11th February.


The Challenge Rules, which include a calendar of events, together with a Registration Form will appear here in due course. For more information please contact: Steve Layton, 9 Brookside Drive, Catshill, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, B61 9LD - e-mail steve-allrounders@btrda.com.

Also a number of local car clubs are running solo's:

http://www.farnboroughdmc.org.uk/autosolos.php

I will be doing these.. as I have just joined FDMC

perhaps the club should organise / try and get in on the act - perhaps partner up with local clubs?

think more people could afford to do this than sprinting/hillclimbing

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video link of autosolo as posted by Gerry
Gerry wrote:Check this video - there's a Locaterfield first and then an Imp at about the 1 minute mark. Looks like a lot of fun - anyone we know?

http://www.owenmotoringclub.co.uk/index ... e=autosolo
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there are also lots of thes eon round the country so should be one near you...

FDMC ones are £30 to enter - no need for a helmet, overalls or a comp licence so loads of us could do them

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Loughborough car club will hold an Auto solo later in the year, but also intend to do some evening only events. Just turn up and have a go. You may need to join the club though, not expensive if you just want to test out the water ! Donnington park, Sunday market site.
I did one on New Years day, great fun and I will be doing more :)
I posted a link to the pictures somewhere ...
http://picasaweb.google.com/impmad2000/AutoSolo
Try that :)
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Good to see interest in these taking off, the first ever in the UK was run by my local club after our chairman got the MSA to issue a special permit for it (since the event type wasn't in the blue book). I did it in the Audi Coupe Quattro I was using as an everyday car at the time, which was quite a handful!

For those in the Bristol area go here http://www.bristolmc.org.uk and click on the calendar, we are running one on 25th Feb at Weston and we've already got a Clan entered. I'll be doing it in my other 2 seater sports car (the German one, not the Davrian). Also on that site under "Reference" is an article titled "SOLO explained".

It's a lot easier than autotesting, being all forwards and much more open, but retains the same level of equipment / safety requirements, ie standard cars are fine.
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impmad2000 wrote:Loughborough car club will hold an Auto solo later in the year, but also intend to do some evening only events. Just turn up and have a go. You may need to join the club though, not expensive if you just want to test out the water ! Donnington park, Sunday market site.
I did one on New Years day, great fun and I will be doing more :)
I posted a link to the pictures somewhere ...
http://picasaweb.google.com/impmad2000/AutoSolo
Try that :)
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This one ?
http://www.theimpclub.co.uk/forum/album ... ic_id=3770
Reaching down for the handbrake at the time :)
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come on guys,

what is stopping you getting involved with this?

it is cheap and you can use a std car

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It does look like fun. I would like to have a go sometime. I wonder if one of the motor clubs would organise an Imp Autosolo for us. If we could get enough people together.
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ImpJimbo wrote:It does look like fun. I would like to have a go sometime. I wonder if one of the motor clubs would organise an Imp Autosolo for us. If we could get enough people together.
one suggestion would be to get the ARCC to org one at the archive centre if they are msa registered
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Hi have entered an Autosolo at Bordon, hampshire on the 4th march organised by Farnborough and District Motorclub....

I put the car as a clan! hahahah might have oto change that to pug diesel

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ImpJimbo wrote:It does look like fun. I would like to have a go sometime. I wonder if one of the motor clubs would organise an Imp Autosolo for us. If we could get enough people together.
Is the Imp club not currently an MSA registered club?
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onomatopoeia wrote:
ImpJimbo wrote:It does look like fun. I would like to have a go sometime. I wonder if one of the motor clubs would organise an Imp Autosolo for us. If we could get enough people together.
Is the Imp club not currently an MSA registered club?
Not anymore - though is under discussion at committee level
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who knows of any auto solo clubs in kent i wanna try my imp out but im too young to 'leagily' drive
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stuartrf wrote:who knows of any auto solo clubs in kent i wanna try my imp out but im too young to 'leagily' drive
think under 17's can enter
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ImpJimbo wrote:It does look like fun. I would like to have a go sometime. I wonder if one of the motor clubs would organise an Imp Autosolo for us. If we could get enough people together.
the Imp Club is reregsitering with the MSA so the club put one on itself..

now we just need someone to org it and for people to turn.. anyone? need a nice flat bit of tarmac.

Arcc archive centre has to be worth a look

I will see if the club comp secs can help

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What are autosolos? Must look it up... :) Might be interested in the not too distant future.

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ImpManiac wrote:What are autosolos? Must look it up... :) Might be interested in the not too distant future.

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see the first post and other posts in this thread even a video --

what as that saying - water... horses... lead


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I'll see what I can do.
What are folk's thoughts on the Donnington Venue ?
Couldn't get much more central than that could we !!
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rootes wrote:
ImpManiac wrote:What are autosolos? Must look it up... :) Might be interested in the not too distant future.

IM 8)
see the first post and other posts in this thread even a video --

what as that saying - water... horses... lead


Si :wink:
Can't access videos here at work... Wish I could... :wink:

EDIT: Just looked at the link in the first post. Looks like fun! Might be interested.

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It is fun, you can do it in any car and it is not hard on the car like an autotest can be. I'm doing our next club one in my boxster and at 150 quid a tyre there's no way I'd do that if I thought it would wear them out ;).
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ok here is the competition so far..

http://www.farnboroughdmc.org.uk/SoloMa ... s18Feb.xls


must be some impers that could get to Bordon, Hampshire on the 4th...

so come on give it a go - my 1st time as well!

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rootes wrote: need a nice flat bit of tarmac.
That's the hardest part, we spent 2-3 years looking for a bit of tarmac. We've found one now but the owners have just put planning in for a housing estate so how long we will be able to use it for is anyone's guess.
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Just back from our event, I had a great time despite the rather inclement weather.

6 o/a from 34(ish) wasn't bad either, considering I'm a bit of a numpty behind the wheel :mrgreen:
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Mark

Boxter?
Or what?

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Yep, I used the Boxster since everything entered had to be fully road legal (and the Davrian most certainly isn't!)
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Now I'm interested in the 5 finishers above you - what were they driving?

Main reason wanting to know is that my Lotus recently was challenged by an 06 plate 280-odd bhp Boxster S on a track day at Croft and he found it impossible to shake off my meager 200 bhp (OK it is a bit lighter than the Boxster, and he used his brakes more than I would for a given corner).

I would have thought the Boxster would do well against most road cars considering the following it has on the handling front - including one Mr Tiff N....

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I haven't got the results in front of me but from memory:

The event was won by an Elise and there was another just (0.8s over the whole day I think) ahead of me as well.

The other people ahead of me were driving Pug 309, Golf GTi and Mistibushi Lancer and they're all a lot more experienced at this than me - and a lot better drivers :lol: .

Results will probably appear on the BMC website later today.
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Oh well,

I'm sure you would have nuked them in you Davrian (a proper race car!)

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looking forward to the FDMC solo this coming Sunday...

just need to redo the Clan throttle cable to alter the pull ratio..



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rootes wrote:looking forward to the FDMC solo this coming Sunday...

just need to redo the Clan throttle cable to alter the pull ratio..



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typical - fine weather on sat and today but yesterday (sunday) pisse dit down!

very very wet - but great event put on by http://www.fdmc.org.uk/ and to cap it all I won my class (class f - kits, caterhams and others) was second quickest overall after round two, but need to wait for the full days results to see how I placed at the end of the day - great variet of cars , std Cit AX mgb v8, caterhams, R5 turbo, mini, gt6, mr2, golf's etc etc

hopefully be able to post the result and some pics later..

would recommend solo's to all impers - great fun and not much money.. £30 all day

also the dual solo (two cars on mirrored courses was ace)

all pretty much in 1st and 2nd gear - though sometimes I just could not decide!

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Excellent! Well done Si!
Look forward to seeing some photos and maybe having a go myself come summer
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rootes wrote:I won my class (class f - kits, caterhams and others) was second quickest overall after round two, but need to wait for the full days results to see how I placed at the end of the day
Great work, Si! 8) Sounds like you had some serious competition too!

I'm going to have to get along to have a look at an AutoSolo some time.

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the course were tight so I think it even power out and it was very wet - though must learn to drive the clan in thw wet - slide.....

lots of very quick mini's and a mad mr2 turbo

anyhow great fun all round win or not - hopefully the club can organise one...
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Will there be an autotest/solo at the national? Am I right in thinking I saw videos from one at the National last year?


What was the course like Si?
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skamanfrank wrote:

What was the course like Si?
Video from last years FDMC event - note nice and dry unlike this year

http://files.isitaboat.co.uk/rich/Video ... lo06-1.wmv
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rootes wrote:

all pretty much in 1st and 2nd gear - though sometimes I just could not decide!

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Well done!

Clans rock!

so what peak revs were you using?

Got to be a real advantage for Impers, the more revs you can use?

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Lotus-e-Clan wrote:
rootes wrote:

all pretty much in 1st and 2nd gear - though sometimes I just could not decide!

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Well done!

Clans rock!

so what peak revs were you using?

Got to be a real advantage for Impers, the more revs you can use?

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some pictures and video from the FDMC Solo

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Pictures of all the cars
http://www.wiseguyphotography.com/AutoS ... Album1.htm

http://www.ae-photography.co.uk/040307.html

Some vids
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/adamg_Rocco/

some higher quality vids are due in the future..

funny quote from the FDMC forum:
carl s from the FDMC forum wrote:
The Clan was perhaps the most surprising car I saw on Sunday, I was amazed the amount of grip it had off the line every time, no matter how wet it was. It was considerabley faster off the line than everything, even the two Caterhams !

I suspect an LSD may be lurking in the back of the Clan perhaps?

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Well done Si! I looks bl***y wet in them photos!

Nice photo of you getting your prize :wink:

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Basildon310 wrote:Well done Si! I looks bl***y wet in them photos!

Nice photo of you getting your prize :wink:

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yes very wet! and despiet my rain soaked trousers steaming nice whilst sitting in the car the Rain-X anti gof worked a treat with not a bit of mist on the window all day even with now heater of blower fitted!

yes nice photo at the prize giving :oops:

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Looked like a cross between an autotest & a regatta :D . Great to see the clan showing the correct place to put the engine 8) .
I see from the photo's that you decided to get the car working before you finished the headlights & respray - best decision - get it roadworthy then tweek it.

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pimpdriver wrote:Si
Looked like a cross between an autotest & a regatta :D .
well one of my neighbours thinks it is more boat than car anyhow
I see from the photo's that you decided to get the car working before you finished the headlights & respray - best decision - get it roadworthy then tweek it.

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FDMC March Solo Event Report

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An event report for the FDMC Solo can be found here:

http://www.fdmc.org.uk/soloMarch2007repa.php

found out that I came 3rd overall!

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ps great fun - lots of these events round the country so lets get out there!
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Wel done Si. Welcome to the Clan winners. Looking at the results I wondered what determines the classes?

Think that should be winning Clan.

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rootes wrote:found out that I came 3rd overall!
:shock: :shock: Wow! That is really great for a total novice to motor sport! :D 8)

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Great stuff Si. Looking forward to seeing the Clan.
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benwick3 wrote:Wel done Si. Welcome to the Clan winners. Looking at the results I wondered what determines the classes?

Think that should be winning Clan.

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cheers Pete,

classes for the FDMC events in 2007 as follows:

Classes and eligibility:
A. Historics; any car, registered or manufactured before 01/Jan 1975
B. Other saloons / estates / 4 seat coupes, up to 1400cc
C. Other saloons / estates / 4 seat coupes, 1401 to 1800cc
D. Other saloons / estates / 4 seat coupes, over 1800cc
E. Production (open and fixed roof ) 2 seat sports cars
F. Low volume sports cars, kit cars suitable for road use, and others
ineligible for classes A to E

Cars eligible for Class A shall run in that class, rather than in the
corresponding class from B to E.

Classes with fewer than 4 entries may be amalgamated.

Class F includes all Caterhams, Westfields, Lotuses and similar. Diesels,
with or without forced induction, will run in the class corresponding to their
capacity. A petrol engine with forced induction, in class B or C, will move up one capacity class. A rotary engine will be classed at twice its nominal
capacity.

All cars must retain the original body profile above the hub centreline, apart from accessories such as spoilers. Cars not conforming to this requirement, or one-off specials, or kit cars of an ‘off-road’ nature, are not eligible for this event.

Suspension and transmission may be modified, within their original
configuration. Tyres marked ‘for competition use only’, or manufactured
without a full tread pattern, may not be used.

Additional eligibility requirements, Classes A to E:
In classes A to E, cars must retain the original panel and window materials
although additional panels, e.g. wheel arch extensions, and accessories may
be added. They must have full trim and seats although the type may be
replaced.
The engine must be of the original manufacture and original basic type (eg:
BMC ‘A’ series) and must be fitted in the original position, but may be a
different version, may be modified, and may be a different capacity, provided
the car is entered in the class corresponding to its actual capacity.
Cars not meeting these requirements are eligible only for Class F.
The organisers’ decision will be final, regarding the eligibility and most
appropriate class for any particular car.
As per GR F13.1; cars entered in AutoSolo’s must be registered, taxed,
insured, MOT tested if applicable, and driven to the event.
Please note, these requirements will be enforced. Tax discs must be
displayed; proof of insurance cover, and MOT’s (for cars over 3 years old)
must be available at scrutineering / signing on; and trade plates will not be
accepted.

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Post by bazzateer »

rootes wrote:Diesels, with or without forced induction, will run in the class corresponding to their capacity.
No benefit there then.......... :wink:

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Post by Useless Eustace »

Well done Si. Car certainly got off the line well. As a matter of interest what tyres were you using & what width/aspect ratio ?
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