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Hi starting to but suspension back on ,do I just fit straight to body are is is worth seam sealing round where the brackets fit ,or grease underneath ? I'll copper ease the bolts
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More parts arrived from club spares including petrol pipe
Looking at the way it's fitted iam thinking of putting a flexible pipe from the tank to just under the floor , I don't like the way it is if you needed to remove the tank you couldn't help getting some petrol in the car ?
I also got new spring rubber insulaters which I think are very good quality
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Ive done it by fitting a metal pipe out of the base of the tank which does an immediate 90 degree bend continues for about 3 inches inside the boot heading for the nearside, then use a piece of rubber fuel hose as a connector which then joins the metal pipe again which goes over to near the nearside chassis rail in the boot and then down and out of the floor, through a rubber grommet, and continues around the nearside of the steering rack plate and cross the back edge and into the tunnel where its continues its normal route, all suitably clipped where necessary and using the latest hose to suit the modern fuels.

To remove the tank all I have to do is drain it the best I can with the fuel pump at the engine end, or syphon it out at the tank filler, clamp the rubber connector hose under the tank and disconnect the other end of the hose from the rest of the pipe and lift the tank out, theres very little if no fuel spillage that way.

Plumbing the fuel pipe that way also means none of it is hidden behind the rack mounting plate out of sight as it is normally to rot away unseen.
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I intend to run a solid pipe down the tunnel just thought it would be easier to fit flexible at the tank to fit there's not a lot of room to tighten it up with a solid and if any problems can't just lift it a bit to see .
On another note will I need a tank sealer it's been stored for a while and there's some slight surface rust inside iam going to run a filter ?
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Dont forget the magnetic tea strainer over the tank outlet inside as well :wink:
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Hi patch is 50 years old today and looking younger every day
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That's a bl***y good idea John I will do that today :-)
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Got back to it today finished brake and clutch lines through tunnel used stainless steel p clips and as screws put rear cross member back on bought 10 3/8 unf grade s but found I was 4 short , I am sure I read somewhere there were only 10 ? :-) my own fault for not counting them
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Just wondering, is that the extra ones fitted to Sport spec cars that you're missing?

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Made a mistake can any of you more experienced impers spot it ? I'll have to alter it as it may come back to bite me later
Give you a clue it's at the front , school boy error
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Spot on Scott, you can tell you've built before lol regards Gary
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Hi did some welding for a guy down the road today heard I had a welder offered payment but I refused then he comes out of the garage with this say it's been there for 30 years would I like it
Can I use it on the imp I've always static timed older cars before and there doesn't seem to be any timing marks on the engine or the pulley?
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Yes you can and there's a timing marker on the engine which points to a TDC notch in the edge of the crank pulley and you go from there.
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Well the time has finally run out ,as many of you know I am renting the garage and for a long time was in fear of being turfed out with nowhere to take the car. The garage is up for sale and I have had an offer accepted so it looks like iam stopping for a while and there is room for more !!
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Well! This stiletto is turning out to be a very expensive project I completed on the sale of the garage today so I now have 400ft of imp space to work in .first job will be beefing up security then back too it :-)
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Started blocking the outside of the car last week
Thought I'd start at the rear up to the doors first and do what I could on the spit just to make it easier ,NS panel is imp club the swage line had lowered a bit from welding, if you have ever done a rear panel on an imp you will know that if you raise it in one part you loose the line so I used masking tape as a guide to fill up to still lots to do but shape is generally ok
NS was the worst for welding as it's made up of 3 sections as nothing else was available at the time ,at first I lost the line and got in a bit of a mess but after a few goes taping up the line it's ok now , I actually made it worse by putting to much over the welds to start with it didn't need anywhere as much as I thought it would. I saw the masking tape used on YouTube it really makes it easier as Im no expert, the form on the arch is different on each side I'll have to square one up a bit and soften the other one then they should match
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Hi I've epoxy primed the roof
3 coats and have keyed it with 80 grit .
Now it is waterproof is there any point in painting it a colour if the vinyl roof is going on top ?
Suggestions please
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Got a bit of time at last ,took John and cols advice and put some colour on these roof to help seal it before the vinyl goes on.
Still lots to do regards Gary
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Hi not got much done this year ,a shame considering the great weather we've had managed to get most of the rear wings flated but with the weather turning now I've epoxy primed them just to seal will finish them next year now
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Hi could one of you guys take a dimension from your imp so I can check mine the one I need is from the back of the scuttle to the edge of the front panel in the middle,mine measures 30 1/4" is this correct ? and the bonnet measurement is 30 3/4" is this correct?
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The bonnet dimension on mine measures 30 5/8"

Then on the centreline of the car the dimension from the front edge of the scuttle to the edge of the front panel is 30 3/8"

Thus the bonnet overhangs the front edge by around 3/8" if theres an 1/8" panel gap between the scuttle and bonnet rear edge.

3/8" to 1/2" overhang sounds about right when you consider build tolerences.

Fit the bonnet and then put on a seal and as long as the seal sits onto the top of the front panel to seal its ok.
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Yours seems a better size , I bet they just picked the best fit on the production line ,I've probably got the longer bonnet with the smaller distance to front panel Iam going to put all the hardware on and see how it fits if not may have to look for another bonnet? I've got a new seal from club spares ready for the trial fit
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Maybe you could jack the front panel out a little to fit the bonnet better, it might have been pushed back in a past nudge, maybe?

The new seals arent to the original spec you realise, they do the job but not correct profile.
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Hi Peter the front panel has no sign of a nudge , the bonnet overhangs the front corners too I may be able to move the centre but think I would have to drill spot welding at the top of the wing to move the corner ?
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My bonnet overhangs the corners but only by 1/8" at most then once around the corner down the side its level with the wing top.

This where the advantage is of fitting new panels is they can be adjusted so everything is perfect before they are fixed, where the factory fit isn't quite always, but then perfection isn't originality so it depends what you're trying to achieve.
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Original never hit or changed front panel and an original steel bonnet never repaired or rusty looks like this , non original seal though
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Hi got back to the bonnet today stripped the paint off under the bonnet and found a few old repairs that I had to strip back as the seal would not go on part of it due to the under edge not being flat, not surprising for a 50 year old bonnet . This may account for the bonnet being a bit too long once the front edge was removed you can move the front edge in about 3/8" quite easily without deforming the curve ,so should be able to get a better fit when I repair the front
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Hi Peter did notice that but did you notice the price would have liked to go that way but near £200 is too much for me but it's these arkward bits I tend to be good at ,?? now I've cut it out lam looking forward to fixing it lve missed the welding,got fed up blocking bodywork
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Got another bonnet yesterday had a good look today, first let me state I have nothing bad to say about the seller he said it was a spare and had repair on the front he's not used it and I said I would strip all the front edge to see how it was ,so I did today the overall bonnet is a lot better condition than the other but still doesn't fit very well worst bit is os front corner it just been welded wrong . I will just have to fix it myself I may use parts of the other one to repair and make it fit better,one good thing it's shorter than the other one now I've got the filler off lol. :-)
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Maybe it's a case of cutting the tin and use that to repair boot lid , discarding tins contents first.

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The full profile on the front edge is way out will make new edge and extend the front down to match might do both bonnets at same time and sell one on
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Hi just acquired a new part ,shot blasted it today, its been bashed in as you can see looks deliberately done ,is this for clearance ? I can sort it that's not a problem but if it's done to get it in easily I'll leave it
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You know what state the stiletto was in , nothing surprises me anymore lol
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Gary i just caught up on this build after you pointed me to it , mate you have done some nice work i cant believe that the bloke you bought it from had bodged it so much he seemed to think he had done a good job on it when i picked it up to deliver to you , glad you have saved it

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Just been to pick up a rust free bonnet ! Surface rust but no rot on the front edge fits not too bad neither £90 think it's a good buy
BUT the guys farther has died leaving him a large garage full of cars and parts he used to run imps years ago then got in to escorts . he's still sorting through all the parts but there's a few cars
E type , lotus Elan mk1escort,MK2, sunbeam rapier X2 including 1st production model?
And that's all I could see upstairs is full of parts
He will let me know if he finds any more imp stuff
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Just fixed my bonnet using Express inner and outer front repair sections for 400 quid.
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That looks a really good repair Peter the new bonnet I've got a bit similar to the others not a bad fit hanging over at one side but front looks really good few dents need sorting will probably have a go at reworking the overhanging edge
But not an easy thing to do Iam thinking
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Did yours need any work at the sides ? I thought it may be the wing but all measurements from one side to the other seem ok ?
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My bonnet repair
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Fit th bonnet hinges and see how it lines up, can have a major change on how it aligns.

My bonnet had been tweeked at at the factory, the rear corner showed signs of a sharp thump as witnessed by the crease in the rear edge.

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That looks a very neat repair I'll be happy if mine ends up like that
I would like to learn some hammer and dolly skills but where do you go to learn these now Iam a bit out of my depth at the moment
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Don't think there was much subtly in the adjustment I imagine a block of wood and lump hammer to bring the edge in.

I used the spot welder on the bonnet edge once the inner had been removed to carry out repairs to it as wanted to avoid any chance of distoriting the bonnet.
Easily done with such a large flat panel.

A light skim of filler and the repairs will blend seamlessly.
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Is that derust fluid in the wheelie bin or is it paint stripper.
What a good idea best use of a wheelie bin I've seen for a while
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Simply citric acid, the stuff that gives sweets their sharpness etc
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Hi got some painting done today at last back too it
Also fitted rear seatbelts last week
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Nice colour!!!!
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