Spaceframe Imps

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by oneofapair » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:00 pm

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Period picture of Mike Law car, looks like Oulton Park. Can see where confusion comes from colour wise.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:19 pm

Yep, I agree, doors are hinged different and some of the panels are a bit different.
Mike My mate had a photo of Bert Ray adjusting something on a supposedly Ray Imp that looked an awful lot like the Owen car, but that was in plain dark blue.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by oneofapair » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:45 pm

I'm pretty certain that only 2 Ray Stiletto's were built, certainly Bob Jarvis's was one. Tony Sinclair at JADE's may know , he i/was Bert Ray's nephew .
The Darrian website certainly has a price list for Bob Jarvis Bodywork ,the tail section being the same shape as Rob Knox's car.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:07 pm

The body panels are definitely Jarvis as are mine on the Maroon later orange car, the doors on the Knox/Owen car are like the Davrian ones, the doors on the Maroon/orange car are ali like on the Jedi Imp and are what Tim Duffee calls Jarvis panels.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:36 pm

Hi, I have now had my Imp out on a couple of events. It goes well but needs a bit of work on the handling. It is fine on the twisty/fiddly tracks but on fast corners it is a bit tail endy. I think I know the cure, so we will see.
The power is good with around 200 bhp and 164 ftlb torque before traction was lost on the rollers. I hasten to add that this is not an Imp engine. It is a std Honda Blackbird supercharged and on Methanol.
I will attempt to add before and after photos.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by 617sqn » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:43 pm

Nice ! 8)

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:12 pm

Thanks, It's fun to drive. I have had to make virtually everything as everything was ripped out, suspension wise. But it has been enjoyable. Now to get it sorted and the other one out on track. That's the Endaf Owen/Rob Knox one, that one is virtually ready to go now. I just need to put in some legal windows and sort some front wheels. Oh and somewhere to sit. The engine is running an transmission sorted.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by les998 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:12 pm

Hi Roy, I’m sure you will get the handling sorted out, once you do they are great fun, I quite liked the tail hanging out on corners, but I like driving like that, not the fastest, way to do it, but more fun lol. I run a Fireblade in my one, but I had the engine mounted just 20mm off the back of the seat, only problem with that was it got rather hot in the car. Hopefully you might get some videos posted of it in action.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:44 pm

nice looking car roy hope you get it sorted

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:23 pm

Hi Les and Coll,
I don't mind the back end coming out when I'm on the power but turn in oversteer on the fast corners is not pleasant. I'm intending to set it up like our Ralt, that takes the fast stuff as fast as I want to go. As I said before the fiddly stuff is ok.
I know how I used to like Imps with conventional suspension to handle but this one is basically a single seater underneath. I'm now waiting for someone to say where is the Imp in that, well it has a genuine Imp gear stick and gear knob. Nothing else. It never was an Imp, no Imps were harmed or damaged while making this.
When I bought this Dermot advertised it as a corpse, so I must have revived it a bit

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Teddie2003 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 pm

Hi Roy,

looks great, is this for the hills or sprints in the SW?

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:44 am

Hi Steve,
Hills and Sprints, Sprints to start off with.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Roy Sims » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:14 am

Handling is now fine starting to feel the car. It doesn't seem to have any nasty traits. 2nd in class to a Radical in in amongst the Single seaters at Castle Hillclimb, Cornwall. Of to Clay Pigeon Kart track for a Sprint this weekend where I have a Radical and a Spire to contend with.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by wiskid » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:31 am

What's happened to all the pictures at the beginning of this thread, they have all disappeared. It was a valuable source of information on how to build a spaceframe and now it seems to have disappeared into icons. Is it this forum or photoshop?

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by 617sqn » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:33 pm

I think you might mean Photobucket, and yes, it's probably down to them after they chose to charge for their hosting. Didn't ultimately do them any favours. I understand that we will more than likely be getting a new Forum, which is undergoing tests right now. Will make image uploads easier, and possibly as seemless as Facebook.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by wiskid » Fri May 17, 2019 7:35 pm

Enjoying all this spaceframe history but really want some on mine. It is the Maguire Imp No 1 and the last owner was Keith Scott, who I think, went to a great deal of trouble tracing its ownership from day one. Unfortunately the mobile number I have been given is now discontinued, can any one help me speak to Keith or have historical information on the car.
It has now been completely refurbished and brought up to the latest MSA standards by Colin Rooney and has its passport and I have done a few sprints with the car but would really like to know it's history.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by knocker » Tue May 21, 2019 8:16 am

Keith is on this forum I will message him so he can reply. I believe pervious to him was Sue Davis.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by wiskid » Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 pm

Thanks Knocker, much appreciated.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by les998 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:53 pm

Wiskid, hi Ian, I have sent you a private message about your Maguire.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by wiskid » Wed May 22, 2019 9:22 am

Hi Les,
Sorry but the PM has not arrived yet can you please try again or try wiskids@talktalk.net
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by B19mgk » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:08 pm

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Hi I'm looking for info on the car in the picture. The chassis has passed through a few different hands in the last 10 years I now have it and hope to restore it, last owner started cutting bits of spaceframe out to fit a bike engine luckily he kept all the bits! The bits of body I have for the car are not what was on the car to begin with so I'm hoping sombody might know a bit about the car.
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