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Clan looks a lot better than the opposition that's for sure (especially looks good in green and yellow). Long live the Clan! 8)

Standing ovation from the crowd for exuberance is no less than expected! :lol:
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Great video, Scott. 8)

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Sunday 3rd April 2016 I took part in the Galloway Gallop a 170 mile tour around the same area Imp Ecosse is being held this year at Loch Ken. Including driving to and from the event was about 250 miles at an average of 30mpg.

They used some cracking roads which were open and flowing - superb driving roads, they also found some little used roads which were extremely rough at least for the Clan with its lowered and stiffened suspension. In fact I'd say they were worse than the 10 mile drive through the Raider's Road forest drive.

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Today 10th April was Monklands Sporting Car Clubs Season Warm up at Forrestburn Hillclimb, basically a track day.
For £30 you get multiple runs up the hill, I want along in the Clan and local member Keith too his Imp as he bottled taking his Westfield as there was rain in the forecast :lol: and my wee brother Craig was there in his 306 rallye.

In the end rain did not appear although there we a few spots now and again, there were a number of things I needed to do to the Clan before the event the main ones were replacing a doughnut which had suffered from the abuse a few weeks ago at Knockhill and the alternator as returning from the Galloway Gallop we were running out of electrickery. The alternator should have been simply enough but finding another that worked and fitted due to the different belt lengths etc proved time consuming and in the end put a standard pulley on rather than the large deep one previously fitted. This meant that I had to get up early to today and finish getting it ready but I made it.

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That was a tidy drive, Scott. 8) How did your time compare with your previous? :?: If it is akin to a track day, is timing yourself frowned upon? :?:

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Just from elapsed time on the video around 59s - 1.02, Craig in his 306 Rallye claims 56s however record is around 42s so some room for improvement.

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Video from last nights track night at Knockhill, not a good start as fell off at the second corner absolutely no grip at the rear when I turned in, back end stepped out, corrected and ran off the track. It got better once warmed up.



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Looked like a good night Scott, shame about the wee off early on.
Cold tyres possibly?
Was that Keith out in his Westfield that you passed after the chicane?

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The Mazdas looked twitchy too - must have been cold up there in Iceland.

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Was first lap wasn't even trying just brining everything up to temp, yes cold tyres but suspect some form of contamination due to lying about for a couple of years unused - Yokohama A048's

Yes that was Keith in the Westfield - first time he has used it at Knockhill and first time out since he fell off the road in the rain so being a wee bit cautious.

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Lotus-e-Clan wrote:The Mazdas looked twitchy too - must have been cold up there in Iceland.

What were to two cars ( a silver one chased by a white hatch) hooning at warp speed past everyone (was it a silver Porsche and a ?) Clan004
Think the mazda was trying to slide the rear but just ended up with a twitch :lol:

Yes couple of silver Porsches out, they all look the same to me but one was a convertible so I could tell them apart :D
the white hatch was a Megane 265 so that's 265 bhp.

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What cam are you using and what is your change up point? I know my knowledge of Knockhill is limited but to me it seems that your acceleration is laboured due to you hanging on to the gears to beyond the point of max power of the cam. It could be because of the gear ratios you have but changing up earlier could result in a quicker time.

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benwick3 wrote:What cam are you using and what is your change up point? I know my knowledge of Knockhill is limited but to me it seems that your acceleration is laboured due to you hanging on to the gears to beyond the point of max power of the cam. It could be because of the gear ratios you have but changing up earlier could result in a quicker time.

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Changing up from 2nd to 3rd after the hairpin at 7000rpm indicated but that's the XR2 rev counter which is actually 8500 ish
The rest of the lap is taken in 3rd or 4th with the upchanges much earlier.

I'm running standard ratios with a quaife ATB I do have CR boxes but the SC ones are just too noisy for road use as with most things its a compromise.

Biggest improvement will come from better brakes still running drums all round and tend to be lifting early and coasting.

There is another reason its a little flat which will be revealed later.

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Scott,

8500 is too far for the R20 cam. I rarely exceed 8400 with my R22.

I realised that you were using standard ratios after reading back through the thread. The coasting was really evident and with that you're not making full use of the Quaife diff. As you say previously you need to be slow in and then quickly on the power and out.

How do you intend to upgrade the brakes? Drums do work well but have the inconvenience of needing constant adjustment. The addition of front discs will be more than adequate. I have discs all round on my orange Clan and there is no noticeable difference between that and the front disc/rear drum setup on my original red car. The important thing with the rear drums is decent rear shoes. I'm on my second set of VG95's in near on 20 years. On the front I run Viva discs and calipers and Greenstuff pads.

You will struggle with standard ratios. Lowered third and top are necessary but I understand your comments about the noise as I do use both of my Clans on the road with the red one being nowhere as noisy as the straight cut Jack Knight box in the orange one. There are some original lowered gear sets out there in helical form but they are rare. I have a box with helical gears and original rally ratios, including a raised first, and I have tried it and whilst better than the standard ratios it's not as good as the lowered third and top box. Would probably be OK with your engine spec.

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Brakes are superb using Moose's comp lining no fade ever however they do wear quickly when on track and then need adjusting hence the reason I don't lean on them too heavily. Remember a track day is longer than most races I usually do 30 minute sessions 25 ish miles and come in a check it over.

The new Clan has the Fiesta disc conversion on the front and will see how that performs but fancy discs all round but better to get it finished first.

I have a helical CR works box but again due to doing quite a few road runs say 250miles it is nicer when you don't have to have the engine screaming behind you to keep up with traffic on the motorway etc.

Carbs from memory are 28 chokes 9f6 115mains as I say its set up for torque not power.

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Scott,

My races are not short - I'm used to 40minutes. On the Continent it was also two races in a day.

My engines have always been built for torque rather than outright power. It's better on the racetrack as well as the road.

As I said in my opinion it's not worth fitting discs all round although hard rear shoes are a necessity. As a guide I find a set of pads last me a season with the rear shoes being adjusted at the start of the season and not touched again until after the finish.

Are the carb details for Webers of Dellorto's?

If Webers you could go to 30m chokes and F16 Emulsion Tubes and retain the 115 mains, This will remain torquey and have a little more top end.

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The comment was a reflection on the need to adjusted the brakes during a 170 miles track day, only needing to adjust then once a season sounds good but the current ones are excellent from cold so ideal for road use with no fade when hot. Compromises

The carbs are Webers and yes F16's emulsion tubes, lots of time was spent getting to the current set up, it is now has no flat spots or hesitate and will pull 30mph in top and accelerate cleanly to the red line smoothly, idles at 1000rpm ideal for a road car have tried 30's and OK but not as good as the current set up again compromises.

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Clan Mot'd today after a false start yesterday. Stalled during the test and wouldn't restart went down
and got it going after a bit of messing about - couldn't find anything wrong and been fine since.

It's now running an 875 L4 which I re-build with a little porting and raised compression ratio - goes very nicely.
The reason for the engine swap was a holed piston at the last track day.
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Your piston damage looks just like the damage I had with the first set of Italian 1040 pistons that lasted less than 1000 miles from new -the crown cracked through starting from a gudgeon pin bore. ..combustion then blew/burnt a hole through the crack.

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Replacement Powermax pistons still going strong more than 20K miles later. :D
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Exactly the same - crack runs from pin hole. landing ridge also broken but it has done thousands of miles and loads of trackdays

Since the Autosolo where it was thoroughly caned it had been getting a bit smokier and was due to be stripped anyway.

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Today thought I'd replace the grumbly rear wheel bearing - couple of hours should see it done.

No chance - still nor finished. :cry: :evil:

Hub would not separate from the drive shaft - tried my hub puller now destroyed.

Tried a bit of heat but no use.

Tried driving the shaft backwards through the hub and bearings = gradually increasing hitting tool in size until I was swing a 14lb sledge hammer all I achieved was a mushroomed nut and driveshaft.

So I got the angle grinder out and cut of the remains of the nut and tried the sledge hammer again - nada.

Cut some slots in the hub flange and started beating it again - nothing no movement not even a thou.

Time to take the arm off - at least that was straight forward.

On the bench cut the flange until all that was left was this
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and finally the shaft starts to move.

Then its a case of gathering up all the bits, dismantling a spare shaft for the splined end and flange.

Flange needs drilled out to take the longer Ford wheel studs.

Got the arm back on, drive shaft fitted but getting a bit late for making noise so finish up.

Hopefully get it finished tomorrow evening if its not raining.

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oh some job that mate hope you get it sorted well i know u will

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colin rooney wrote:oh some job that mate hope you get it sorted well i know u will

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Thanks, I've never come across one this stubborn before especially since the driveshaft was changed in April 2015 as the standard one had twisted.

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All back together and bearing noise gone :D

Couple of small things to attend to and should be all good for the National.

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Well done, Scott. That was a tough one! :shock:

Hopefully see you at the national. :wink:

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Clan being getting a fair bit of use as been out somewhere every weekend for last month or so.
Today was the End of Season track day at Forrestburn - dry with plenty of grip and got about 20 runs so excellent value.

875 engine lacks the urge of the 998 so had more time to get the lines correct fun never the less.

Couple of the runs



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That looks a super course - is Forrestburn used competitively, or only for track days?
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mikeC wrote:That looks a super course - is Forrestburn used competitively, or only for track days?
Its a proper Hillclimb course whitch the club uses for track days, production car trials and autotests to help the funds.

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It's great to see you're using the Clan, Scott. :D I like the look of Forrestburn!

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Clan has been parked on the trailer for the winter but had to dig out the trailer for my brother to use. Clan fired up after a couple of turns and idled nicely :D
Will give it a check over and retax it for the 1st April then its ready for Imp Ecosse.

Also got the engine back into the Alfa 75 and started although still work to do as it doesn't idle smoothly. :D :D

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Washed the Clan and gave it the once over, everything OK and drove it home. :D

Only thing I need to look at is the self raising lights, at speed after you lift off the light pods pop up, a bit like air brakes. :roll:

I have changed them to manual operation from electric as the drivers side had issues with sticking as linkage restricted by the auxiliary rads and plumbing that had been added. I had considered that leaving them floating free might have this result but decided to give it a go anyway, will add a couple of springs to hold them down.

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Oh and the Alfa 75 3.0 v6 sorted and driving = very sideways :mrgreen:
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That all sounds good, Scott. :D

I'd rather like an Alfa 75 V6 myself. 8) Mind you, I don't mind soldiering on in my Vectra GSi 3.2 V6. :wink:

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bks974c wrote:Oh and the Alfa 75 3.0 v6 sorted and driving = very sideways :mrgreen:
I think we should call you "DOCTOR SIDEWAYS' -- after all it's your favourite position! :lol:

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With VAK now usable I can give the Green Clan a little TLC, I had parked it up when its MOT/Road Tax and Insurance fell due at the same time so I committed to getting VAK ready for the National.

The sun was shining so finished replacing the head gasket and bolting the ancillaries back on - all running again. Checking it over for it MOT identified excessive movement on one front wheel bearing which when tightened allowed the kingpin movement to be felt so kingpin being replaced along with a new brake adjuster on the o/s. The n/s shows vertical movement between the inner and out stub axle assembly so that's off too to be rebuilt also needs a new adjuster. Unfortunately the washers I need to do the n/s are at the shed so will have to wait until tomorrow.

Once I'm happy everything is 100% I'll get it MOT'd and get it advertised for sale rather than lying outside over the winter.

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Decided to have a wee tidy up of the garage at home, seems to have become a dumping ground over Christmas :?

Cleared the bench and put some bits away in their place but still too much stuff that belongs in the house but I did find the big red key that was missing :D :D :D which meant I could try to start the green Clan.

Bearing in mind that its been lying outside for at least 18 months and today was below freezing with ice still lying on the car I was not too optimistic that it would even turn over. However ignition light came on, fuel pump ran and it turned over :D :D :D :D

Just as I thought the battery was going to die, it coughed and caught - hi torque starters are great - let it idle for a while, slowly closing the choke. Left it running for a while then thought I should check the fluids but couldn't get the engine compartment open as catch seems to have stuck. Probably need to remove exhaust to gain access to it but that will wait.

All in happy bunny, although still need to decide what to do with it.

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Glad to hear the Clan fired up Scott, nice one.

Good luck with getting into the engine to check the fluids.

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If the rear lid lock is the same as a Crusader's then there is a downward lever extension integrated with the catch that can be pulled from below. It has a bit of a hooked end that you might get a very long ring spanner over (or a spark plug socket on a long extension) to help pull/push it a bit further - if exhaust allows in situ?

Before Christmas I fitted a solenoid boot popper to the front boot catch (cable remains as a back-up). After much faff, I eventually removed the slider to work out how to make the solenoid work better and found the slider very stiff because the grease has dried rock hard. New grease transformed the efficiency.

It might not help if the catch release slider is still moving freely but the 'male penal knob' has dislocated / sticking /caught on the slider carrier?

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Happy New Year to you too, hopefully this is the year :o

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It appears to be the slider but no dangly bit. Difficult to get any real leverage on the slider while on the deck and exhaust in place.
Once up and exhaust off I'm sure it will submit willingly.

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Re: Irish Clan minor miracle

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Well that's the end of an era, after just short of 10 years I've sold the Irish Clan and it's now on its way to Bognor Regis.

It was never advertised but the new owner has enquired after it for a number of years but price was an issue and when he ask again at this years National I gave him a price that was attractive as i didn't want it to see another winter sitting about and happy to see it going to someone who appreciates it.

Hopefully he will get as much enjoyment from it as I did.

Scott
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Re: Irish Clan minor miracle

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It remains to be seen if he moves his Cally on, now the deal has finally been done, but good luck to the both of you. I'm sure it will get some decent road time, something lacking as far as said Cally is concerned. Can't wait to see it at a Sussex club meeting somewhen soon.

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