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Wish I'd have gone now, great piccies :D
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It would be great to see a Clan in the stages but sadly it will not be this year because I have decided to do something else.
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jackp wrote:Have tried to attach photos from Photobucket but keep getting told the images are over 800 pixels wide when they have been re-sized to 300 wide?
Are you copying the Img link from your PB account and pasting it straight into a post on here or are you using the forum Img button above the text box? The former works well for me but the latter always gave me problems so I don't use it any more.
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I have given up trying to load pics on this site completely,don't have any trouble on any of the other forums I visit. :oops:
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Photo by Kevin Watkins
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I agree posting here is flakey but it works in the end if you get the image files small enough - hopefully these 3 more from the Mid Wales Stages will work.

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GURNSIMPS wrote:I have given up trying to load pics on this site completely,don't have any trouble on any of the other forums I visit. :oops:
Frustrating all round Neil as we can't see your pics! :(
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I have had a go at my photo'bucket today and put some pics up on the wicked welsh thread Baz. 8)
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At last our in-car video of the Pikes Peak / Myherin stage.


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Great stuff Nigel! :D Looks like a nice smooth stage and a nice smooth drive as well! :)

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BHRC 2013 Season. Rally North Wales

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The second round of the British Historic Rally Championship - Rally North Wales (formerly the Bulldog Rally) starts from Welshpool on April 6th. The event which runs over two days features the famous Dyfi and Gartheiniog stages over 51 stage miles and 142 road miles. The Cat 1 (pre 68) cars run ahead of the field and will start from Welshpool town centre soon after 11:30 on Saturday. Sunday start is from the Livestock market at 08:00.

For the first time for some years there will be three Imps out - Geoff Taylor and I will be joined by Geraint Thomas with the ex Simon Whitehead car (recently referred to on this forum as being up for sale fortunately Geraint has thought better of selling it and is bringing it out to the forests instead - the first run since an Andy Jones engine rebuild).

There are more Imps being readied for stage rallying so watch this space. In the meantime I will post more spectator friendly details as they emerge, but would our growing band of Imp Club supporters make a note in their diaries and don't forget your cameras.

Hoping to get 5 or 6 Imps out together later in the season

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Hi All,

Firstly huge apologies for not having posted on this (or for that matter any other ) thread on the forum for some time and particularly to Nigel who has done so much to further the Imp cause in Historic Rallying and I think you will all agree continues to do a brilliant job on here and in Impressions with his articles and pictures. I promise to do more in future to support his efforts.

I wanted to say thanks to all those enthusiasts who came up for a chat on the Mid Wales Stages in the remote Service Area at Sweet Lamb and on route. It was very much appreciated and welcomed. This first round of our championship ( the British Historic Rally Championship) was well supported with over 150 cars in total on the rally and with our Category running first on the road to ensure we had the best quality surface for our pre '68 vehicles.

The event was superb and the forest stages a good mixture of tight and twisty and fast flowing, the longest being over 16 miles of Hafren - amazing, it seemed to go on and on. We were able to overhaul a Cortina on it too which was pleasing (for us that is). Pikes Peak which has been mentioned several times in these threads was awesome and being wider than most especially at the start and with some spectacular hairpins is great for throwing the car around without having to worry too much about sliding off into the trees or a ditch and brilliant for speccies. Great fun.

Nigel and I both finished, enjoyed ourselves and came home with pots, well a nice piece of Welsh Slate to be precise. You can see us in action tonight on Motors TV on Sky @ 10pm and I think its rerun a couple of times in the coming days too. Hopefully they will give us some coverage, there were enough cameras and commentators out on the day.

So we are next off again to Wales centred on Welshpool (Servicing is there too) for the Rally North Wales on 6/7th April and it uses, amongst others, the famous Dyfi and Gartheiniog Stages which are smooth and a similar mixture of twisty and fast flowing. Mike Dent, Keith and Andrew Livesey will be providing their very professional support once again and hope some more of you can make it out to see us. Do please stop by for a cuppa and a chat and the van is a white Sprinter with Fresian Racing stickers (Black cow logo).

Welcome to Geraint Thomas who is bringing his Imp out on the RNW also!!

The rally website is on
http://www.rallynorthwales.co.uk/

Thanks again for all your support and for those of you who are building cars to join us then you will absolutely love these events for the stages, competition and friendly cameraderie so keep cracking on - if you need any advice on prep' I am always happy to help so send me a PM or post on here.

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Its my 50th Birthday on the weekend of the North Wales rally,a few mates are sorting a party over the weekend somewhere near the stages so if I seem a little...... ahem..... tipsy to anyone there is a perfectly good reason,50th birthday,Historic rallying and Hillman imps,my idea of heaven :lol:
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Neil get along to the service park, not allowed to drink on rally but would make a coffee and toast your birthday look for the white van with a cow on it!
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Will do Mike,will be good to meet you at last.
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Excellent Neil, sounds like a great way to spend your birthday!

Look forward to seeing you there.

Hopefully we'll have the same fantastic weather that we had last year! It was a pleasure to be servicing, but if its snowy like it is here today, then I'm pleased that we will be competing and not servicing!
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will be good to meet all the imp club members that show up in the service park, Nigel and Henry need to adjust this seasons budget were going to need a bigger kettle! maybe drop the last round of the championship to fund the kettle and tea bags :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Haven't seen the Motors TV output but the film company plan to post the full programme on YouTube. When they do, I'll put a link to it here. There should be some coverage judging by the number of times Olly Dickinson, the film commentator, interviewed us!

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^^ Excellent. I look forward to seeing the programme. :mrgreen:

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Pirelli Rally 4-5 May.
Chance to see Nigel Webster and 6 other Imps on some Forest tracks.
The Pirelli is a round of the BRC, BHRC, BRC Historic and some Clubman Events.
The Event Starts in Carlisle, and uses Kielder Forest.
I went out to Marshal last year and stayed over in my Puck caravan at the Kielder Village Campsite .
I can recommend it, either as a marshal or a Spectator.
Check www.thepirellirally.co.uk for details, or email me.
If you want to Marshal you will need to Register.
See MSA website - Volunteers in Motorsport.
You will need to be a Motor Club Member, but IMP Club Membership is fine, as the Club is Registered with the MSA.
If you are a first timer you will be put in stage with experienced Marshals.
if you get keen, you can do a Training Course, and work up the Marshals promotion tree, Sector Marshal, Start/Finish Timekeeping and so on.
I usually do Rally Radio, which keeps track of the cars to make sure every car is accounted for Stage by Stage.
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Apologies for being slightly "off topic", but last weekend saw the running of the North Yorkshire Classic Rally, despite the snow "up north".
The Event was a round of the HRCR Championship, so had many top crews out.
The Event was based around the York area,which was not badly affected, by snow.
Even so, the organisers had to do some overnight re-routes, as Sutton bank and, the ford on the N Yorks Moors, at Caydale Mill was impassable.
At Caydale, you could get in, but not get out, due to the ice !
Some of you may remember this from the Friday Run on IMP 08.
The picture are still featured on the Club Website.
We got 50 IMPs through, without losing one, but it was summer time, and most of the snow had melted !
The York Event is a Historic Road Rally, ie a mixture of "Regularities" on the road, plus "tests" on airfield and farm tracks etc.
The Event is local to me, but for various personal reasons I wasn't able to be out.
But I am please to read in Motor Sport News, that the event was won by MIKE & Matthew Vokes in their Hillman Imp.
This is the same car as was exhibited at the HRCR Gaydon Show reported in Impressions recently.
Mike & Matthew finished the Rally two & a half minutes ahead of the field, mainly because of good navigation.
They only dropped 29 seconds on the Regularity Sections.
I understand from last nights Ilkley Committee Meeting that the regularities were the key to success.
Most other top crews had problems with the final Regularity and dropped a lot of time.
I hope you will join me in congratulating Mike & Matthew on this splendid result.
A great one for the IMP 50 year celebrations.
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^^ What a fantastic result! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Thank you for flagging it to us, Colin. :wink:

Congratulations, Mike and Matthew! Stunning performance! :D :D :D

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Have a look at the Motors TV programme that covered the opening round of the BHRC - Mid Wales Stages at


Imps at 09:00, 20:3, 22:00, 33:15 and 34:00 minutes in.

Spectator details on the 2nd round - Rally North Wales (6/7th April) will be published here soon.

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BHRC 2013 Season. Rally North Wales

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Next Saturday 6th April sees the start of the second round of the BHRC - Rally North Wales. Geoff Taylor / Steve Greenhill, Nigel Webster / Henry Webster, Geraint Thomas / John Stanger-Leathes are entered in the Category 1 (pre 1967) B1 class.

The start is from the centre of Welshpool at 11:30. The start times are for the first Cat 1 car (we haven't got the seeded entry list yet but the Imps will start shortly after these times). Stage 1 is the 15.19 mile Gartheiniog stage which is on OS map 125 (828.5/108) and finishes on OS map 124 (809/108). Stage 2 is 8.29 miles away and is called Dyfi at 8.68 miles long. Start is 124 (782.5/072.5) and ends (794079). Expected start time on stage 2 is 13:20. Stage 3 start is at 13:39 at 124 (800.5/078.5) finishing at 125 (813/104).
We return to Welshpool Livestock market from 14:50 for service.

On Sunday there are two stages. Starting again from Welshpool town centre at 08:00 we arrive at the first stage Dyfnant West at 08:53 125 (000/179) and finish at 125 (962.5/163). The final stage Dynant East will start at 10:32 125 (000/179) and finishes at 125 (012/148.5).

Before attempting to come and watch the stages stay in touch with the event spectator page which hopefully will shortly identify car parking places. The OS grid references are the actual start and finish points and won't necessarily have parking facilities. As Geoff has said Mike Dent, Keith and Andrey Livesey will be running service and be in charge of tea and coffee. Any members are welcome to come along to service but viewing the stages will be subject to event organisers' control.

http://bulldog-rally.co.uk/spectator/sp ... nformation

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Excellent coverage of the Mid Wales event, focused on the whole field rather than the top few :D

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Nigel Webster (anrw) wrote:Have a look at the Motors TV programme that covered the opening round of the BHRC - Mid Wales Stages at


Imps at 09:00, 20:3, 22:00, 33:15 and 34:00 minutes in.

Spectator details on the 2nd round - Rally North Wales (6/7th April) will be published here soon.

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Great stuff Nigel, they seemed to give a good amount of time to Category 1 :) rather than concentrating on wall to wall Escorts. Loved the town centre start! I get the impression from that and the seeded entry list for Rally North Wales that the "Old Stager" challenge cars were intermingled with the BHRC cars? Clive King's Mini was cropping up but curiously not Andy O'Hanlon's.
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Rod says:- "Great stuff Nigel, they seemed to give a good amount of time to Category 1 rather than concentrating on wall to wall Escorts. Loved the town centre start! I get the impression from that and the seeded entry list for Rally North Wales that the "Old Stager" challenge cars were intermingled with the BHRC cars? Clive King's Mini was cropping up but curiously not Andy O'Hanlon's."

Rod - Yes the Old Stager cars are intermingled with the BHRC cars and seeded 'as one' (there only seem to be three Old Stager entrants in RNW and, as you say, no sign of Andrew O'Hanlon although he was out on the Mid Wales Stages). However there is a really good BHRC entry and for some reason the RAC Championship contenders (almost all Escorts) have taken fright over this event. Any chance of you coming up the M5?

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Rally North Wales Saturday 6 / Sunday 7th April. The spectator arrangements are now published. There are three designated car parking areas for which there will be a charge of £15 per car. Parking ‘off-piste’ may also be possible but the organisers are trying to discourage this by saying they will levy a £15 per spectator walking into a spectator area. This of course takes no account of the numerous public access points at other sections of the stages. An OS map though is likely to be essential if this is your preferred route. The map references published in an earlier post will help in this regard.

Sadly no ‘spectator car park’ allows access to the first stage, Gartheiniog but stages 2 (Dyfi) and 3 (Big Ray) are at:-
Dyfi - Signposted off the A487 between Corris and Machynlleth
Big Ray - Signposted off the A470 between Mallwyd and Cemmaes Road

The Sunday stages (4 and 5) both called Dyfnant and which are largely the same, can be accessed off the B4395 and will be signposted from the A458 between Llanfair Caerenion and Mallwyd.

A spectator guide is available from the rally HQ at the Welshpool livestock market.

Hoping to see some Imp Club members out in the forests?

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Rally North Wales - cancelled

Please note that the Rally North Wales scheduled for this weekend has been cancelled. Apparently deep snow and thick layers of ice are still on many of the stages, which due to the weather forecast are unlikely to shift in time.

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Sounds like ideal conditions for a rally - Rally Finland simulation!
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how will i fill my time next weekend ! Nigel can i still go out for a drink after the rally and you will buy them :lol:
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Wow, things must be bad in the stages to cancel :shock: This isn't an April Fool is it? :roll:

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Gutted! :o :(
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Pirelli International 4th May

Having lost the Rally North Wales to the snow, entries are building well for the Pirelli. Most importantly the best Imp entry for many years. Geoff Taylor / Steve Greenhill, Henry and I plus Geraint Thomas / John Stanger-Leathes and Mike Barratt back out in his Stiletto doing the Old Stager Challenge which is run side by side with the BHRC, although over a slightly shorter distance.

The Pirelli is a great place to spectate (see the photos in the April Impressions) so we look forward to our Imp Club friends coming out to the Kielder Forest - Neil, a late birthday celebration perhaps? Mike Dent, Keith and Andrew Livesey are in charge of the spanners (and coffee) as usual. I will post full details here as they emerge but get the date in the diary.

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For those of you not involved in the Coventry event, don't forget the second round of the BHRC is the Pirelli Historic on Saturday 4th May. This is a really good one for spectators, not only because the magnificent viewing opportunities in the wide open spaces of the Kielder Forest but also because we make two runs each over three stages. Full details of the spectator car parks are at:-
http://www.thepirellirally.co.uk/pirell ... guide.html
There is an error on the Spectator guide map - please note that Archy's Rigg is our second and fifth stage not what it says.

The programme is:
Carlisle city centre 10:30
SS1/SS4 Pundershaw 11:44 / 15:26
SS2/SS5 Archy's Rigg 12:15 / 16:17
SS3/SS6 The Shanks 12:43 / 16:45

Service is at Carlisle Racecourse at 14:08 and we return there to finish the event at 17:57. Times are for the first historic car through and lead the event so if you stay in one place you'll see the whole field (circa 100 cars) go through twice. I suspect the car parks listed on the event website will give you access to viewing points where you can see several parts of the stage.

Mike Dent, Keith and Andrew Livesey are, as usual, running service for Geoff and I but I suspect they will jump in a car right after service to go out to the Forest and try and watch us come through. Geraint Thomas is servicing next to us also. The 4th Imp of Mike Barratt won't be far away as the Historics will be close to each other in the service park.

Make contact if you want any more information. If I hear further details that might be useful to our Imp Club friends I'll post it here.

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Pirelli Historic rally this Saturday 4th May.

The seeded entry list is now out and the four competing Imps start with Geoff Taylor at 7 and end with Mike Barratt at 12. In other words on the first stage, at least, the 4 Imps will go through 12-15 minutes after the stage times shown in my earlier post. So don't be late and bring your cameras - this is the best Imp entry in a stage rally for many years.

Any questions please contact me.

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Nigel,

Hope all the Impers have a great event.

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Good luck to all involved, it's great to see such a good Imp turnout in rallying.
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Get at it lads! :lol: Sorry I can't make this one,maybe the next though...
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Best of luck to Geoff, Nigel, Geraint and Mike :D Four Imps now, how about 6 on the next round all you guys with stage prepped Imps out there? Perhaps by the Sunseeker there will be more Imps than Escorts? :lol: Well maybe not but keep heading in the right direction :P

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