My First Imp (First Sprint this Year!)
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My First Imp (First Sprint this Year!)
I've competed in Hillclimb/sprints for the past 20 years in a Westfield, decided I wanted a change plus something with a propper roof. I've always liked Imps from a distance but last year I read an article in Practical Classics about renovating an Imp for road/competition and decided that was going to be my next car. Found one on e-bay for £1700 and fetched it from Norwich in Feb on my trailer. It is standard and quite good condition with only minor dents and scratches and no rot anywhere as far as I can see. Wasn't keen on the colour origionally but it is growing on me!
Not done much to it over the past couple of months, apart from sell my Westfied and all my Ford bits, this week started scraping all the underseal off and was pleasantly suprised to find a solid floor coated in what looks like red lead. Going to then paint it in "Black Eastwood Rust Encapsulator"
My plan is to sort out the suspension/interior first and then think about modified engine/gearbox later.
Will post more photo's etc as work progresses, Martin.
Edit......One thing I forgot to mention was that I was told by the owner that it had been used in a film called The Royals , does anyone ever remember seeing the car or the film. Apparently it was a clone car as the one in the series got totalled in a train crash .
Not done much to it over the past couple of months, apart from sell my Westfied and all my Ford bits, this week started scraping all the underseal off and was pleasantly suprised to find a solid floor coated in what looks like red lead. Going to then paint it in "Black Eastwood Rust Encapsulator"
My plan is to sort out the suspension/interior first and then think about modified engine/gearbox later.
Will post more photo's etc as work progresses, Martin.
Edit......One thing I forgot to mention was that I was told by the owner that it had been used in a film called The Royals , does anyone ever remember seeing the car or the film. Apparently it was a clone car as the one in the series got totalled in a train crash .
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Re: My First Imp
Glad that you're under way. That colour is growing on me too!
Making visual treats every day to adorn your oily loved ones!
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Thanks for the offer of the springs Rod, have sent you a PM.
I shall be glad of any help/advice from members as I 've never owned one before. Just found a couple of photo's of my Westfield, didn't want to sell it but had to because I needed garage space for the Imp.
I shall be glad of any help/advice from members as I 've never owned one before. Just found a couple of photo's of my Westfield, didn't want to sell it but had to because I needed garage space for the Imp.
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Welcome to the world of Imp Martin. That appears to be a sound and original looking car you've bought, nice one. Subtle shade I like it.
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Re: My First Imp
Welcome to the world of Imps and their differently-badged cousins.
Your car looks very smart indeed. I too love the colour! If you haven't already, you should start a Readers' Cars thread for your ride.
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Your car looks very smart indeed. I too love the colour! If you haven't already, you should start a Readers' Cars thread for your ride.
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Thought I'd post an update , although I'd checked for rot before buying I was convinced I was going to find some on closer investigation back home .
Glad to report that the floor is in great condition for a 47 year old car . Spent last few weekends scraping off all loose underseal from wheel arches and floor to reveal what looks like red oxide .
Using a selection of paints/sprays to protect the underside now that 3/4 of a wine box of underseal and sound deadening stuff has been removed .
Glad to report that the floor is in great condition for a 47 year old car . Spent last few weekends scraping off all loose underseal from wheel arches and floor to reveal what looks like red oxide .
Using a selection of paints/sprays to protect the underside now that 3/4 of a wine box of underseal and sound deadening stuff has been removed .
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Extra lower front and Monte rear springs just arrived from Malc, good service . Should make it sit even better, spax shockers also ordered yesterday...........must have doubled the value of the Imp now
More pictures of the interior, about to start wire brushing/painting the front suspension now , yes I like this retirement, could do with a few more hours in the day though
More pictures of the interior, about to start wire brushing/painting the front suspension now , yes I like this retirement, could do with a few more hours in the day though
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Yes it is a welded plate but looks like it is origonal
The better weather has encouraged me
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The better weather has encouraged me
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My Singer has this plate , I too was worried about rot underneath , so i removed all the sound deadening around it and poured wax oil between the plate and the ribbed floor , that was 23 years ago and its still perfect
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Front suspension arms (think that's what they're called) all sanded, checked, painted and rustproofed .
Next job is to fit 4 new adjustable Spax shockers and shortened springs .
Next job is to fit 4 new adjustable Spax shockers and shortened springs .
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Re: My First Imp (update)
New spax and shortened springs fitted , sits at a nice height now . Just "rattlecanned" the interior to make it presentable for the Llangollen 60's show on Sunday , hope we (me, Mrs Pubcrawler and my Imp) make it ...........only driven her 20 miles maximum since purchased .
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Re: My First Imp (Heater out!!)
Whilst removing the heater pipe the solid pipe from the matrix became loose . So nothing for it but to remove the lot and I've now found where small drops of water were coming from on my last outing .
Hoping a friend (who used to fit central heating systems) can re-solder it for me . If not I'll be back on this forum asking for help .
Whilst apart I'm doing away with the on/off valve so have "aralited" the end so as not too have leaks and also still gives me a pipe of the correct diameter to connect the return hose .
Why is the heater mounted on the slant ?
Hoping a friend (who used to fit central heating systems) can re-solder it for me . If not I'll be back on this forum asking for help .
Whilst apart I'm doing away with the on/off valve so have "aralited" the end so as not too have leaks and also still gives me a pipe of the correct diameter to connect the return hose .
Why is the heater mounted on the slant ?
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Heres a piccy of it , it was further modded to fit a later matrix at one point ,
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Re: My First Imp (Heater repaired!!)
Heater matrix fetched from a friend who soldered both joints and (thanks to Noddy for his top tip) soldered a filed down 2p coin to make a perfect stopper .
Fitting it all back to-morrow along with radiator, new fan and hoses .
Hope the bloke on the assembly line who fitted the two heater hoses front to back got paid more than anyone else ....cause he deserved it, what a ****in job that was
Fitting it all back to-morrow along with radiator, new fan and hoses .
Hope the bloke on the assembly line who fitted the two heater hoses front to back got paid more than anyone else ....cause he deserved it, what a ****in job that was
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Re: My First Imp (Heater repaired!!)
What a difference, new HE rad, waterpump, heater hoses, fan and two jubillee clips . Took it for a good run this afternoon and no overheating .
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Re: My First Imp (New Parts!)
Shiny newness!
Enthusiasm is usually supplied with shiny new Imp components. Look for it in a small jar, wrapped up with the roll cage side intrusion bars.
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Enthusiasm is usually supplied with shiny new Imp components. Look for it in a small jar, wrapped up with the roll cage side intrusion bars.
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Re: My First Imp (Enthusiasm found!!)
Funny how I found my enthusiasm as soon as my Wife mentioned decorating!!
Impressed with the fibreglass mouldings, bonnet fitted perfectly with lock and safety catch lining up first time . The engine cover required a bit more work , because it is only a skin and I wanted to keep the origonal locks and handles I had to make up a wooden spacer to screw the catches to.
The plywood was glued and fibreglassed to the lid after first cutting out the holes . Once the handles were fitted and locks aligned I added two quick release catches on top so I can completely remove the cover when working on the engine and still lock the cover in place . I haven't removed the hinges so that the origonal cover can be re-fitted if needed sometime in the future
Rubbing down and spraying is next on the list me thinks
Impressed with the fibreglass mouldings, bonnet fitted perfectly with lock and safety catch lining up first time . The engine cover required a bit more work , because it is only a skin and I wanted to keep the origonal locks and handles I had to make up a wooden spacer to screw the catches to.
The plywood was glued and fibreglassed to the lid after first cutting out the holes . Once the handles were fitted and locks aligned I added two quick release catches on top so I can completely remove the cover when working on the engine and still lock the cover in place . I haven't removed the hinges so that the origonal cover can be re-fitted if needed sometime in the future
Rubbing down and spraying is next on the list me thinks
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Re: My First Imp (More Enthusiasm found!!)
Good idea Moose about using R clips , saw this done for the front cover on an Imp at Brands the other weekend. Sprinting/hillclimbing has much more sociable light hours although the weather cannot always be guaranteed .
Although I've never done any large area spraying with a propper gun and compressor before I have to say I'm rather pleased with the results, a little bit of orange peel effect in parts but hopefully when hardened should polish out
Fitting the full cage is my next task
Although I've never done any large area spraying with a propper gun and compressor before I have to say I'm rather pleased with the results, a little bit of orange peel effect in parts but hopefully when hardened should polish out
Fitting the full cage is my next task
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Re: My First Imp (More enthusiasm found!!)
i cut the heads off the original riveted hinge pins on the boot lid, then replaced them with a a piece of stainless bar after opening the holes to suit, the bar is bent on the end and the boot lid holdes them in. this allows standard concealed hinges and a removable lid,
just visable here:
and removed (not the best pic, but the pins are still half in the hinges on the car):
just visable here:
and removed (not the best pic, but the pins are still half in the hinges on the car):
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Re: My First Imp (Cage Squeezed in!)
Finally finished fitting the "Safety Devices" Cage this morning .......2 days of sweat and swear
Couldn't have done it without using 2 ratchet straps and would have been easier without the roof lining which I managed to tear in a couple of places
Very good fit though , decorating now takes over for a while, should have done it last year
Couldn't have done it without using 2 ratchet straps and would have been easier without the roof lining which I managed to tear in a couple of places
Very good fit though , decorating now takes over for a while, should have done it last year
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Re: My First Imp (All new parts fitted!)
Finally finished fitting all my new parts yesterday,so now really must start decorating .
Ordered a LED number plate light and interior light from these people http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/, their free catolgue makes good bedtime reading .
With a cage fitted the old interior light was useless so decided to upgrade and move using a strip of alluminium, this worked well as it also hid the small hole that I made in the roof lining to get at the roof aerial nut .
The e-bay purchsed rear Hillman badge added the final touch
Ordered a LED number plate light and interior light from these people http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/, their free catolgue makes good bedtime reading .
With a cage fitted the old interior light was useless so decided to upgrade and move using a strip of alluminium, this worked well as it also hid the small hole that I made in the roof lining to get at the roof aerial nut .
The e-bay purchsed rear Hillman badge added the final touch
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Small Cheques!
Thanks to Eddie (classic capsule) for his advice with this latest addition .
Took all Sunday afternoon to fit but am pleased with the results . Now I really must start the decorating otherwise I could end up living in my garage permantly .
Took all Sunday afternoon to fit but am pleased with the results . Now I really must start the decorating otherwise I could end up living in my garage permantly .
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2 more photo's
Spent the morning at Curborough (sprint venue near Lichfield) yesterday helping a friend with a new single seater .
Decided to do a few laps at the end in the Imp just as it started to rain , very exciting
Decided to do a few laps at the end in the Imp just as it started to rain , very exciting
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Re: My First Imp (2 more photo's)
I like the roof too.
I reckon there ought to be a sticky thread that forms a sort of reference library for paint work, decals and period embellishments to keep the purists happy and maybe another similar thread for more non-standard / outrageous paint schemes good OR bad!
For example, I often wonder what type of paint scheme I could apply to make the Clan look prettier ....
... I reference library of ideas might just help.
...or maybe not.
I reckon there ought to be a sticky thread that forms a sort of reference library for paint work, decals and period embellishments to keep the purists happy and maybe another similar thread for more non-standard / outrageous paint schemes good OR bad!
For example, I often wonder what type of paint scheme I could apply to make the Clan look prettier ....
... I reference library of ideas might just help.
...or maybe not.
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Rear seat finally out!
Tried to remove rear seat upright before but failed so this time I wasn't going to be beaten .
Ground off the screw heads and away it came.........the seat along with the nearside inner arch .
Off side arch remained in place with just a few rust holes.
Welding job for my Brother-in-law to-morrow , then will permantly fix seat in the upright postion.
Ground off the screw heads and away it came.........the seat along with the nearside inner arch .
Off side arch remained in place with just a few rust holes.
Welding job for my Brother-in-law to-morrow , then will permantly fix seat in the upright postion.
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Re: My First Imp (Rear seat finally out!)
Not cool at all! Mind you, at least with the car as it is, it should be a straightforward repair.
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Re: My First Imp (Inner rear arches all welded!)
Now to get this thread back on track with an update .
My Brother in Law welded up both rear inner rear wheel arches after I forcibly removed the rear seat upright and to-day I've given them a good coating of POR 15 inside and out.
Really impressive stuff this POR 15, left some in a dish and when fully dried it was a like a flexible piece of rubber .
My Brother in Law welded up both rear inner rear wheel arches after I forcibly removed the rear seat upright and to-day I've given them a good coating of POR 15 inside and out.
Really impressive stuff this POR 15, left some in a dish and when fully dried it was a like a flexible piece of rubber .
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Re: My First Imp (Interior Update)
Bought a sheet of alluminium chequer plate whilst at Race Retro from a bloke in the very cold autojumble shed !
Was supposed to be working this week but got postponed at last minute so back in the garage while the weather is nice.
Finished cutting and fitting floor plates yesterday .
Spent to-day making corex templates for my new auxilary dashboard and shelf, cutting and bending to-morrow maybe
Was supposed to be working this week but got postponed at last minute so back in the garage while the weather is nice.
Finished cutting and fitting floor plates yesterday .
Spent to-day making corex templates for my new auxilary dashboard and shelf, cutting and bending to-morrow maybe
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Re: My First Imp (Another Update!)
Having had to take the seats back to Cobra for them to re-glue the seat squabs (job was done while I waited) I'm now pleased that they are finally fitted again along with the seat belts , must say their customer service was excellent .
While the seats were out again I took the opportunity to spray the rear brown seat with some black upholstery spray paint I found on the internet . Must be honest it wasn't the easiest to use and I think it would have been easier if it had been a warm day although overall I'm pleased with the result . The seat is there to comply with the sprint class regs and I think it finishes off the interior . The upholstery spray was applied with the aid of a 3" soft paint brush and a blow heater to dry each coat. I've also made and covered new rear side cards, front door cards next using the same material .
The Springalex 14" dished steering wheel also arrived by courier to-day from http://www.europaspares.com
Fitting was very straightforward and for reference the wheel uses a "M Range boss kit Ref KK1020" .
While the seats were out again I took the opportunity to spray the rear brown seat with some black upholstery spray paint I found on the internet . Must be honest it wasn't the easiest to use and I think it would have been easier if it had been a warm day although overall I'm pleased with the result . The seat is there to comply with the sprint class regs and I think it finishes off the interior . The upholstery spray was applied with the aid of a 3" soft paint brush and a blow heater to dry each coat. I've also made and covered new rear side cards, front door cards next using the same material .
The Springalex 14" dished steering wheel also arrived by courier to-day from http://www.europaspares.com
Fitting was very straightforward and for reference the wheel uses a "M Range boss kit Ref KK1020" .
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Re: My First Imp (Another Update!)
Cars looking great
The shoulder straps on the harness looks too steep imho, a better positon from a safety point of view is at the top of the vertical panel behind the rear seat where it meets the rear panel shelf but requires the seat folded down. Alternatively a harness bar can be fitted.
In an accident the steep angle puts unfavourable loads on the seat and occupants.
See MSA guidelines
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_ ... y)_(K).pdf
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The shoulder straps on the harness looks too steep imho, a better positon from a safety point of view is at the top of the vertical panel behind the rear seat where it meets the rear panel shelf but requires the seat folded down. Alternatively a harness bar can be fitted.
In an accident the steep angle puts unfavourable loads on the seat and occupants.
See MSA guidelines
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_ ... y)_(K).pdf
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A small update!
I plan to modify and alter the Imps wiring extensively so decided to bid for and won an Escort wiring loom from Ebay (£15 incl P&P).
Un-loomed it (not sure if that is a proper word ), cleaned it and now I have plenty of cable for my mods .
My spare 998 engine has been stripped of it's ancillaries and is now with Ben Boult for a strip and re-build (should be ready to collect by the end of April) along with another transaxle and clutch .
The other picture is of my 12 year old Nephew, Luke, who is trying out his inheritance for size .
Un-loomed it (not sure if that is a proper word ), cleaned it and now I have plenty of cable for my mods .
My spare 998 engine has been stripped of it's ancillaries and is now with Ben Boult for a strip and re-build (should be ready to collect by the end of April) along with another transaxle and clutch .
The other picture is of my 12 year old Nephew, Luke, who is trying out his inheritance for size .
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Re: My First Imp (Late Imp 50 Update)
Having updated my build thread for a while . Since the Coventry bash all been a bit quiet as I have been pre-occupied fitting another bonnet onto Mrs. Pubcrawlers Sprite and having a front end re-spray etc . With that all now finished I can move back to my Imp .
I stripped the wiring loom from e-bay and made up a new one which I have run in parallel with the existing one, this should have enough cables in it for all my needs . The polycarbonate dash has been recreated in alluminium and covered in carbon fibre self adhesive vinyl, again extra holes have been drilled and can be cut out when requied .
I stripped the wiring loom from e-bay and made up a new one which I have run in parallel with the existing one, this should have enough cables in it for all my needs . The polycarbonate dash has been recreated in alluminium and covered in carbon fibre self adhesive vinyl, again extra holes have been drilled and can be cut out when requied .
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Re: My First Imp (Late Imp 50 Update)
I've moved the lighting and wiper switches from the binnacle and put them in the new dashboard and those holes now have left and right indicator warning lights fitted in them . A small parcel shelf either side finishes off the new dash layout. Basic wiring has been done although a lot more is planned, hence the fuses .
The 998cc engine that I bought has been stripped by Ben Boult and was not exactly as described in the advert .
He is carrying the neccesary mods to bring it up to spec and should be back with me this month along with a gearbox/clutch .
The twin 40's have also gone away for cleaning and reconditioning , I have also purchased a heater fan which needs stripping and cleaning so there are still jobs to do (as always ).
The 998cc engine that I bought has been stripped by Ben Boult and was not exactly as described in the advert .
He is carrying the neccesary mods to bring it up to spec and should be back with me this month along with a gearbox/clutch .
The twin 40's have also gone away for cleaning and reconditioning , I have also purchased a heater fan which needs stripping and cleaning so there are still jobs to do (as always ).
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Re: My First Imp (Got me engine back!)
Went to Ben Boult's last week and picked up my sparkling engine that he had stripped and brought up to spec.
Have to say if it goes as well as it looks...wow
All new bolts, washers, spring washers etc, also supplied me a Mk 3 std gearbox and comp clutch .
Weber carbs have also come back from being reconditioned
Time now for the major stripdown ready for next year, considering I was only aiming to do Coventry 50 celebrations this year I have been pleased with what my Imp has done .
Jobs now planned are polybush suspension, finish rear rustproofing etc, alloy tank, new brake lines, finish/tidy wiring, front disc brakes and of course engine, gearbox and comp rotoflex's
If there's enough money left over might even do a partial re-spray .
Just need to get me back fixed and I'll be at it
Have to say if it goes as well as it looks...wow
All new bolts, washers, spring washers etc, also supplied me a Mk 3 std gearbox and comp clutch .
Weber carbs have also come back from being reconditioned
Time now for the major stripdown ready for next year, considering I was only aiming to do Coventry 50 celebrations this year I have been pleased with what my Imp has done .
Jobs now planned are polybush suspension, finish rear rustproofing etc, alloy tank, new brake lines, finish/tidy wiring, front disc brakes and of course engine, gearbox and comp rotoflex's
If there's enough money left over might even do a partial re-spray .
Just need to get me back fixed and I'll be at it
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Re: My First Imp (Got me engine back!)
Very nice Martin
There's a few jobs there to keep you busy
Bad backs seem to creep up on us all as we get older mine's not too bad now but its had a nice holiday in Brighton for 3 weeks
Rod
There's a few jobs there to keep you busy
Bad backs seem to creep up on us all as we get older mine's not too bad now but its had a nice holiday in Brighton for 3 weeks
Rod
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Re: My First Imp (Christmas Update!)
Spurred on by reading about Paul Harrison's Singer Chamois re-build I decide that the engine/transaxle must be out by Christmas otherwise my re-build wont be started till the New Year .
I've never removed an Imp engine etc before and I've probably taken far too long over it
I started it last weekend and finished it this afternoon , A much better way to spend Christmas eve instead battling with last minute shoppers .
I thought I'd removed everything but still couldn't understand why the engine refused to leave the car , I then realised I'd forgot to remove the gearlever linkage bolt
Finally the Imp gave up the struggle and relinquished the engine
The good news is that I haven't found any rot yet so am really pleased .
Just about to pour myself a Guinness and start the Christmas festivities, cheers
I've never removed an Imp engine etc before and I've probably taken far too long over it
I started it last weekend and finished it this afternoon , A much better way to spend Christmas eve instead battling with last minute shoppers .
I thought I'd removed everything but still couldn't understand why the engine refused to leave the car , I then realised I'd forgot to remove the gearlever linkage bolt
Finally the Imp gave up the struggle and relinquished the engine
The good news is that I haven't found any rot yet so am really pleased .
Just about to pour myself a Guinness and start the Christmas festivities, cheers
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Re: My First Imp (Christmas Update!)
Hi Martin,
Pleased to see you've made a start
Once you've taken the engine and gearbox out its easier next time because you know what to undo
I'm sure you can get that time down to within an hour
look forward to some progress pictures
Hope to see you at a meet in 2014
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Rod
Pleased to see you've made a start
Once you've taken the engine and gearbox out its easier next time because you know what to undo
I'm sure you can get that time down to within an hour
look forward to some progress pictures
Hope to see you at a meet in 2014
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Rod
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Re: My First Imp (Christmas Update!)
Nice work, Martin! They really are straightforward to remove and replace, once you've done your first.
Merry Christmas to you!
IM
Merry Christmas to you!
IM
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Re: My First Imp (Rear Suspension removed)
Rear trailing arms now removed and sent away for sandblasting and then powder coating , my Brother in Law will then press in new poly bushes .
All grease and loose rust now removed from rear end and 2 coats of Hydrate 80 applied, POR 15 will then be applied next week
Suprised just how easily it has all come apart with no rusted nuts etc and no rot found......very pleased
Next job is to remove the front suspension and do the same
All grease and loose rust now removed from rear end and 2 coats of Hydrate 80 applied, POR 15 will then be applied next week
Suprised just how easily it has all come apart with no rusted nuts etc and no rot found......very pleased
Next job is to remove the front suspension and do the same
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Re: My First Imp (Engine bay painted)
Just a quick update, rear end is now ready to have parts refitted
Lots of sanding and rustproofing, please with the results so far
Lots of sanding and rustproofing, please with the results so far
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Re: My First Imp (Front Suspension Removed!)
Another productive day , front suspension now removed ready for poly bushing and final underbody rustproofing
Never realised that the steering comes off as well , be glad when I can start fixing things back on rather than dismantling
Never realised that the steering comes off as well , be glad when I can start fixing things back on rather than dismantling
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Re: My First Imp (Underbonnet Underseal Removed!)
Finally removed all of the underseal from underneath the bonnet and what a pain it was Used a combination of thinners, WD40, meths and elbow grease . Glad it had been put on though because as you can see the paintwork is in remarkably good condition . Just need to apply paint to the remaining unpainted areas now
Another piece of good news is that the cheap Imp fan I bought from Fleebay works so just needs stripping, cleaning and painting and then I shall have a super wafter heater
Another piece of good news is that the cheap Imp fan I bought from Fleebay works so just needs stripping, cleaning and painting and then I shall have a super wafter heater
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Re: My First Imp (Underbonnet Underseal Removed!)
Looking good
Where are you getting the original colour paint from? I'd love to do my trials car this colour again in a few years as it was the original colour and there's barely any left this colour.
This was mine back in the 90's being used properly
Cheers, James
Where are you getting the original colour paint from? I'd love to do my trials car this colour again in a few years as it was the original colour and there's barely any left this colour.
This was mine back in the 90's being used properly
Cheers, James
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Re: My First Imp (Underbonnet Underseal Removed!)
Yes , it needs a 7.5A fuse , it takes a 5A fuse out when turning on , It draws 4A when running
Why the large pulley and whats the alternator rated at / what alternator is it
Large pulley will delay excitement ie. when it actually starts to charge .
Some info
The alternator's output current is regulated by the 'voltage regulator' which tries to keep the voltage at about 14 volts. If the voltage falls then the regulator tells the alternator to put out more current. If the alternator is putting out as much as it can at this speed then increasing the speed will result in more current.
The simplest way to monitor this is a voltage gauge
for example
50 amps at 14 volts = 700 watts
The alternator converts energy from mechanical to electrical. The mechanical energy is supplied from the engine, whose input is chemical energy in the form of petrol. The electrical output power of the alternator must be less than the mechanical input power from the engine, which must be less than the chemical power from fuel combustion.
The alternator's maximum output power requires maximum engine speed & max fuel consumption. But fortunately, alternators are equipped w/ regulators which provide constant voltage operation. By selectively adjusting the field current, the magnetic field strength can be varied & consequently a regulated output can be achieved despite varying loading & engine speed.
If the engine is idling under light load, the regulator will adjust the field current for the needed load power w/ constant voltage, approx. 13.8V. If the load is then increased, the voltage out momentarily droops, so the field current is raised by the regulator. The voltage at the alternator output increases to the right value, & the new current value is obtained. But the power has increased as well. This increase in electrical power mandates a corresponding increase in mechanical power from the engine.
If the fuel consumption is constant, i.e. no increase in fuel, than the idle speed will drop. Since the fuel consumed at the original engine idle speed did not increase, & the alternator demands more mechanical power from the engine, the engine must lose some of its mechanical power. The rpm drops as a result.
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Why the large pulley and whats the alternator rated at / what alternator is it
Large pulley will delay excitement ie. when it actually starts to charge .
Some info
The alternator's output current is regulated by the 'voltage regulator' which tries to keep the voltage at about 14 volts. If the voltage falls then the regulator tells the alternator to put out more current. If the alternator is putting out as much as it can at this speed then increasing the speed will result in more current.
The simplest way to monitor this is a voltage gauge
for example
50 amps at 14 volts = 700 watts
The alternator converts energy from mechanical to electrical. The mechanical energy is supplied from the engine, whose input is chemical energy in the form of petrol. The electrical output power of the alternator must be less than the mechanical input power from the engine, which must be less than the chemical power from fuel combustion.
The alternator's maximum output power requires maximum engine speed & max fuel consumption. But fortunately, alternators are equipped w/ regulators which provide constant voltage operation. By selectively adjusting the field current, the magnetic field strength can be varied & consequently a regulated output can be achieved despite varying loading & engine speed.
If the engine is idling under light load, the regulator will adjust the field current for the needed load power w/ constant voltage, approx. 13.8V. If the load is then increased, the voltage out momentarily droops, so the field current is raised by the regulator. The voltage at the alternator output increases to the right value, & the new current value is obtained. But the power has increased as well. This increase in electrical power mandates a corresponding increase in mechanical power from the engine.
If the fuel consumption is constant, i.e. no increase in fuel, than the idle speed will drop. Since the fuel consumed at the original engine idle speed did not increase, & the alternator demands more mechanical power from the engine, the engine must lose some of its mechanical power. The rpm drops as a result.
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Re: My First Imp (Underbonnet Underseal Removed!)
You shouldn't have asked....
I's a compromise to account for a number of factors.
1400 rpm because it suits the cam (GB72) , the flywheel, the clutch take up etc ..
..and I fitted a large pulley because ...........
Large pulley justification (1): You see when the 40A Denso had a normal tiny pulley the electrical load of my performance orientated stuff (mapped ign, EWP x2 and large electric rad fan in particular) slowed the tickover to the point of stalling with this spec of engine tune at what most Impers consider a normal tickover of just sub 1000 rpm. So the large pulley reduces the engine torque needed to turn the alternator under load and the high tickover suits the engine tune (and pushes the alternator back into the working range). Usually it all works great performance wise ...until you pile on even more electrical load of non-performance stuff for comfort and safety (blower + wiper +lights). At this point 1400 rpm is a bit low for the load and I need more like 1600-1800 rpm for the alternator to cope
Large Pulley justification (2): The CR lowered 3 & 4 'box means most of my time is spent 4000 to 8500 so a large pulley also reduces the alternator revs so it's less likely to overheat the bearings etc. etc.
So any chance of reducing electrical loads from non-performance orientated ancillary stuff is of interest to me.
Hence wanting a low load heater blower! A 5A one would be an improvement over mine so the way to go when I get a chance.
I's a compromise to account for a number of factors.
1400 rpm because it suits the cam (GB72) , the flywheel, the clutch take up etc ..
..and I fitted a large pulley because ...........
Large pulley justification (1): You see when the 40A Denso had a normal tiny pulley the electrical load of my performance orientated stuff (mapped ign, EWP x2 and large electric rad fan in particular) slowed the tickover to the point of stalling with this spec of engine tune at what most Impers consider a normal tickover of just sub 1000 rpm. So the large pulley reduces the engine torque needed to turn the alternator under load and the high tickover suits the engine tune (and pushes the alternator back into the working range). Usually it all works great performance wise ...until you pile on even more electrical load of non-performance stuff for comfort and safety (blower + wiper +lights). At this point 1400 rpm is a bit low for the load and I need more like 1600-1800 rpm for the alternator to cope
Large Pulley justification (2): The CR lowered 3 & 4 'box means most of my time is spent 4000 to 8500 so a large pulley also reduces the alternator revs so it's less likely to overheat the bearings etc. etc.
So any chance of reducing electrical loads from non-performance orientated ancillary stuff is of interest to me.
Hence wanting a low load heater blower! A 5A one would be an improvement over mine so the way to go when I get a chance.
74 Clan Crusader 1040 Red 190 bhp/ton