HSCC Historic Touring Cars 2011

Post by **classiccapsule** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:17 pm

Just looked through some of those "Hillmanator" videos on You Tube. Amazing! Like watching 1970's World of Sport from inside the car. Really gets your blood pressure up. Thoroughly enjoyed them!

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:57 pm

Many outside the IMP-community has observed this Video-clip. I have send the YouTube-address to many non-impers and they are surprised of the hot IMP

Post by **Meltdown** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:06 pm

There's a good article about a Ford Anglia 105E in this month's Octane magazine that states that it 'can't run with the Lotus Cortinas but gives the Minis and Imps a run for their money'

Perhaps the journo responsible for the write-up should have watched youtube first

Post by **ChrisBenoy** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:25 pm

Wonder which Anglia that is? I cant think of many that can run with any but the slowest couple of imps.

Post by **Meltdown** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:40 pm

The article mentioned both HSCC and CTRCC so it possibly runs in the latter. I don't have the mag here so can't refer to it now...

Post by **apeximp** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:52 am

Any Idea if mr martins green & White HSCC race car sold at goodwood on Friday ?

Post by **ChrisBenoy** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:13 am

According to a very quick search, yes. £9200.

Wonder if the buyer will be bringing it out in the HRSR.

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:58 am

ChrisBenoy wrote:Wonder which Anglia that is? I cant think of many that can run with any but the slowest couple of imps.

Doesn't a red/white Anglia appear in front an Imp with on-board camera in some races. That Anglia was a spirited object!

Post by **Meltdown** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:19 pm

I don't suppose anyone jotted down the TV schedules for Brands? It was on the HSCC site but seems to have disappeared

Post by **StuartC** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:43 pm

on Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:49 pm SimonBenoy wrote:
The 2 programs will be on Motors at 8pm on the 4th and 11th of October - if you don't have Sky, find someone who has

Post by **Meltdown** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:46 pm

Thanks. That'l teach me to read the appropriate thread

Post by **apeximp** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:48 pm

Hi meltdown ! Been thro the whole of this months octane mag (miura on front) but can't find it !! Any clues ??? Where is this angle box article !!!

Post by **Meltdown** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:04 pm

apeximp wrote:Hi meltdown ! Been thro the whole of this months octane mag (miura on front) but can't find it !! Any clues ??? Where is this angle box article !!!

Sorry, can't have been this month's. Had a brace of AM Zagato's on the cover

Post by **Bevan IMP** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:53 pm

I cant believe Grahams car only made £9200, an absolute give away in my opinion.

The market for IMP racers needs to improve, I was hoping to get some sort of return on my small investment.

Jonathan

Post by **apeximp** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:53 am

I got a bit fed up with imps this year and looked to sell my fraser replica and the few people who were intrested wanted to steal it from me ! It would have made more monie by breaking it up for parts !!! So would rather keep her and mothball it than give her away !

Post by **colin rooney** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:20 pm

you dont built race cars to make a profit its a well known fact if you want a car buy it instead of building it ,but we all go down the route of building our own cars just to say we done it.You have to remember that not as many people are into imps as mini's and so they dont fetch as much money and this even shows in road car prices

col

Post by **cov_climax** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:31 pm

col's absolutely right, only one way to make a small fortune in motorsport.......start out with a large one

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:15 pm

ChrisBenoy wrote:Should be a good season by my count last year at differing times we had 12 imps out, most of which I expect will be racing next year-

Simon Benoy
Andy Jones
Steve Platts
Adrian Oliver
Ian Gunton
Colin Gunton
Shaun Hazlewood
Graham Martin
Vince Frost
Martin Bramwell
Jim Mckenzie
David Heale

Does any of these fellows or other Imp racing drivers/builders have a homepage? If anyone know, give me (and I think there are more then me interested) a list of all you know.
Dark winter evenings is ahead of us!

Post by **apeximp** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:12 pm

Not sure what you are looking for "grumpyoldmen" ?

Jim Mckenzie

Post by **bazzateer** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:20 pm

http://www.shrigleyengineering.co.uk/

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:28 am

apeximp wrote:Not sure what you are looking for "grumpyoldmen" ?
Jim Mckenzie

The people who have homepages about racing Imps. I thought that was quite clear?? Interesting to read about the adventures (pain or happiness??) of racing an imp
Shrigley is one of them (yes Bazz!!)

Post by **apeximp** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:55 am

Will get round to up dating my thread in the Motorsport section one day

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:25 pm

apeximp wrote:Will get round to up dating my thread in the Motorsport section one day

Oh, we will se forward to that.......................................................

Post by **apeximp** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:15 pm

What's that supposed to mean grumpyold................

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:58 pm

apeximp wrote:What's that supposed to mean grumpyold................

Did just take one of the preset sentences I have in my "Write in English for dummies"
You mean, it didn't fit????

Post by **Lotus-e-Clan** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:28 pm

Hey Grumpy old boy.

So I can understand where you are coming from...what is your first language if it is not English?

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:38 am

Hey Grumpy old boy.

So I can understand where you are coming from...what is your first language if it is not English?

From Sweden, and as I said before, Imp owner are welcome and will be taken care of (in one way or another)

English lesson (except in school): First mag. "Hot Rod Magazine" 1961, then Road and Track, Car & Driver. Practical Classics over a period of 15 years (I guess). Sporadically: Classic car, Classics and Sports car etc.
All magazines saved!!! What shall I do with them???

Post by **SimonBenoy** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:10 pm

Jim will now respond in his finest Swedish!

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:34 pm

"my glovebox is full of eels"

Post by **apeximp** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:59 pm

Must be a chamois glove box then

Post by **bazzateer** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:22 pm

Grumpyoldmen wrote:"my glovebox is full of eels"

"Pleeeeze furndle my buttox" - Can't beat a bit of Python!

Post by **apeximp** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:02 pm

We maybe going of topic , of beam , sidetracked , diverted , or just plain talking bollo* !! can we talk about Hscc imp race cars again please ?

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:30 am

apeximp wrote:We maybe going of topic , of beam , sidetracked , diverted , or just plain talking bollo* !! can we talk about Hscc imp race cars again please ?

Yes, I had a feeling something was wrong.
Wonder what happened to these interesting Imp engine project that could be seen on the Shrigley homepage. Don't see how these kind of modification can be allowed in historic?

Post by **Lotus-e-Clan** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:22 am

Grumpyoldmen wrote:
apeximp wrote:We maybe going of topic , of beam , sidetracked , diverted , or just plain talking bollo* !! can we talk about Hscc imp race cars again please ?
Yes, I had a feeling something was wrong.
Wonder what happened to these interesting Imp engine project that could be seen on the Shrigley homepage. Don't see how these kind of modification can be allowed in historic?

Yep they banned the "down draft" inlet tract once someone complained.

Post by **Grumpyoldmen** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:14 am

Lotus-e-Clan wrote:
Grumpyoldmen wrote:
apeximp wrote:We maybe going of topic , of beam , sidetracked , diverted , or just plain talking bollo* !! can we talk about Hscc imp race cars again please ?
Yes, I had a feeling something was wrong.
Wonder what happened to these interesting Imp engine project that could be seen on the Shrigley homepage. Don't see how these kind of modification can be allowed in historic?
Yep they banned the "down draft" inlet tract once someone complained.

Some curmudgeon, bore or sauerkraut (I don't know the right word) OR maybe some other Imp competitor!!! Oh embarrassment

Post by **Lotus-e-Clan** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:33 am

A competitor /builder who wanted to do the same but was told he couldn't, so it followed things then got highlighted to the "scutes"...which is the natural course of events by all accounts....all fair and above board.

Anyway I was told the downdraft tracts didn't produce enough advantage for the efforts involved so I guess "Shringley Engineering" wasn't too bothered about the fuss in the end. All's well that ends well.

Post by **ImpManiac** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:18 am

It's not like the transition from downdraft back to standard-type Imp cylinder head has slowed Andy down! I think he is using nitromethane... on his cornflakes!

IM

Post by **speeddemon** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:49 pm

Where ever people get there information from alot of the time on this forum is either hearsay or made up.

The downdraft head was never banned and it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It was experimental and lots of information was taked from the test and running that it did. The head is complete and sat on a spare race engine at present.

More than likely it was never taken into full production because unforunatley theres no market for it. Too costly , well not really in race engine terms , its just that the imp fraternity are what we can call not the biggest spenders on the tuning job.

The Shrigley 998cc engine is extremely quick and its still only in its early stages. There is nothing out there at present to match it on reliability and power. Thats my view by the way, but I suppose the results speak for themselves. Its all good and dandy putting engines together and telling people that they do this and that, without knowing exactly what the engine will do or wont do.

There are that many trick bits in the Shrigley engines that us skint members can only dream about. hahhahhhahahhaha.

Post by **Lotus-e-Clan** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:39 pm

Of course it's not always possible for anyone to know the full story, not even those directly involved, because lots of inquiries are made to officials and not everyone hears about every twist and turn. But this came from sources directly involved....it's just one persons honest perspective from someone involved. And just as are there are "many lies" and "many misunderstandings" there should be a place in the mind of wise men for "many truths".

Post by **speeddemon** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Wise men eventually die and are replaced by new wise men. In this time and the present may be Mr Jones is becoming one of the reliable honest wise men

Unforutunatley in the translation of things said by others things get added and misunderstood and are changed about. Hence when i was reading the thread, Mr Jones was sat on my 2 piece with his lovely young lady having a glass of rose wine. He wasnt drinking as he was far too busy the next morning dynoing his new race engine for next year

Im sure what I said above is true.

But hey im sure if the person who wanted the downdraft head really wanted to acheive one then they would have done it.