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Yeah well if only I'd spent the £20 on course tuition like you did I might have had a chance...just couldn't get around that top bend without shed loads of understeer. :cry:

I've decambered the front now and it has more front end grip but I suppose the reality is that you are easily the better driver ...it's not all about the car that's for sure! :mrgreen:
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Peter, we will have to wait for next track day to see who's quicker :D

What's the chances of some motorsport at this years national? Even a little grass autotest or PCT or a track day even better !
What say the organisers

Ideal chance to get those interested in the HTS together.

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Sadly they couldn't get the minimum numbers required for an autotest at the last national so the organisers might be reluctant to try it again.
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Hi Chris

You are of course correct but a major contributing fact was the Club was being charged a lot of money for the venue which normally
are free so it was more a case of not wanting to loose money.

A free/cheap venue would mean the club could run with a much smaller number of competitors.

I know the organisers of 2006 & 2008 Track days found it hard work getting people to put their hands into their pockets and
paying up front, on they day they were both major successes. So I guess its down to everyone if something is organised to act
quickly to ensure it goes ahead.

The "autotest" at Stirling was in great demand and provided wonderful entertainment.

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I think you do have to play the long game and take a risk, and create a bit of a "buzz" through the forum with event details and structure to keep people interested in the idea of signing-up for the event.
I have to admit that Colin and the team thought we should abandon the 2008 Teesside trackday as early as just after Christmas 2007 because numbers were low. I felt confident that more punters would cough-up when the weather warmed and they felt their cars were gonna make it to Yorkshire. I also responded positively to PMs from our poorer younger/student drivers who couldn't commit the money early-on but I felt were keen to get on track.

All this was helped by the fact that Teesside was a BARGAIN in the general world of trackdays and don't know if that could be repeated even if the National came back to Yorkshire.

Also the trackday naturally appealed to our hardened racers who were very early to cough-up (including Scott!) and it's only through their support that I could pay the deposit on time....I don't really know but I'd guess autotests are probably not so appealing to the circuit racers and sprinters (hard on boxes and donuts and when you have a highback seat in a Clan you can't see to reverse so well! :lol: ?)
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if there is enough interest im sure me and colin could sort something will put it to him
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Time for an update, been busy but progress slow, seems its fighting me at ever turn. :?

The interior is now 90% done. Heated windscreen in. Wiring 75% done.

Today decided to have a go at the mechanicals, so stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the head, went well so thought I'd stick it on as the block as it had already been rebuilt only to find one of the head bolt holes looks a bit suspect. :( After swithering whether to go ahead and try it, i've decided to get it helicoiled but thats another delay. Oh well.

So got the twin 40's out and started to overhaul them only for one of the jets to round, after much messing around managed to drill it out and retap and save the body. Should have one in the other carbs but thats a job for tomorrow.

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Finally feel I'm getting somewhere with the car. Ducting for radiator done, fuel tank and battery mounted. Will take photos tomorrow.

Cleaned manifold and rebuilt webers, one or two problems but thats it sorted now and ready to go.
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Gearbox inspected and backlash checked on the Quaiffe diff and ready to fit.

Yesterday was a beautiful day, sunny but cold and in 3 hours stripped the engine and box, drivveshafts, steering rack, brake backing plate and gear linkage
off the Silver rally car. Its sure a lot easier taking them apart than putting them together. :D

Head stripped and cleaned, sump baffle made and engine rebuild under way. :D :D
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Have abandoned the idea to have it ready for the Saltire rally on the 28th and have pulled our entry it will be up and running but there is still a bit to do to finish it and might as well get it right now as it only been 23 years so far. :lol:

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Good day -engine and box in along with shafts.

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Hi ratio rack in but seems tight so back out tomorrow.

Interesting experiment on the go today - fairly new transaxle mount starting to seperate centre metal from rubber so removed it totally
and cleaned both the metal and rubber and then sikaflexed them back together and left it clamped in the vice overnight. Will see how it works out tomorrow.
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Excellent work! :D

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nice imp scott lots of hard work gone in to that love it mate 8)
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Looking great Scott, keep it going. Pity you won't make the Saltire.
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Hi scott
Fab work, enjoyed following your build, what alternator are you running? and is there any reason to site the fuel tank to the o/s and battery n/s? as most seem to do opt for the other way round? keep up the good work and the posts.
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Hi Leadfoot

Alternator Lucas 17/18 ACR or whatever I could get cheap :D

Due to the navigator weighting way more that the fuel it was better for weight distribution. :lol:

Originally it was designed with a smaller fuel tank and so the battery vs fuel was about even, however late on it was decided it was too small and
went for a bigger one with the same footprint and put it in the same place. Ideally it should be mid mounted and lower for perfect weight distribution
but as most things in life its a compromise and in my case driven by cost. The silver rally car ran a standard fuel tank and in rally trim the tool box
spares and trolley jack sat on top and it was a lot heavier than the current set up and I never noticed the difference with and without.

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Got some painting done today :D

Unfortunately it was the fence :(



Plumbing all done - electric pump working and no leaks :D
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Made the air box for the carbs and sorted linkage.

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Oil cooler ducting done.

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Remote air filter - to be ducted from side window via naca duct.

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Trial fitted sump guard, rear panel and exhaust, some fettling required to clear sump and manifold.

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Modified baffle as previous post with a couple of changes instead of cutting a slot above the oil pick up I folded it over
to provide additional prevention to surge.

The idea was to allow oil to to return to the sump side when oil was above maximum level then I started to think what happens
if the oil level dropped too much oil would still sit on the wrong side so added a couple of extra holes. Most of the oil will return
to the sump via the timing case hole. The flap above the oil pick up may direct the oil surge back towards the pick up.

All back together now, will have to wait now and see if it works.
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With plugs out turned engine over to get oil pressure up, filled petrol tank up and primed system. All ready to give it a go and start it
and the battery is flat. :cry: Charge the battery overnight and try tomorrow.

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Good luck with the first start up, Scott. :wink: Your car looks spot on! VERY nice! :mrgreen:

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Hi Scott,
Fingers Xd all goes well tomorrow.
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The xd fingers seem work. Thanks Alan

Took a few attempts to get it going and tried a couple of different things like disconnecting the rev limiter and attaching a
separate engine earth, I even took the battery from the diesel Octavia but think it just needed the fuel system to fully bleed.

Now starts on the first flick of the switch (no key), timing and carbs still need set up but sounds sweet. :D

Lots still to do, but that a major task out the road.

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Well done Scott, like you say thats a major hurdle crossed, now on with the bits and pieces. Ready for Imp Ecosse? Alan
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I must say, I like the way that you have put the car together. It appeals to the engineer in me! :wink:

Try to post some video of the car running, if you can.

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I would like to think it will be ready for Imp Ecosse but the good weather means I've got thing in the garden to do.
Lets hope it too cold or wet at the weekend :lol: :lol:

IM most of the mods are to address problems that I've had such as the remote air filter. Water splashes or dusty events can badly affect
the air filters in the standard location. The exhaust is designed to be both a single or 2 box system depending on what noise level it needs to meet
simply by capping the tailpipe although the 90 degree turn is not ideal.

Relutant to rev the engine too much at the house as I would like to keep on their good side but once the car finished I'll take a video.

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Can't believe is 4 months since I posted anything on BKS, thats 1/4 of a year, where does the time go.

The garden was just grass and now its like this, worked on it for 3 weeks and let nature do the rest if only the car was the same.

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However I have got some work on the imp done as shown here

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Now its time to get the Clan ready for the National, quick service, change the doughnuts for the autotest and sort the passenger seat mount.

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Nice, er, garden, Scott. :? Your Imp looks lovely too! :wink:

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ImpManiac wrote:Nice, er, garden, Scott. :? Your Imp looks lovely too! :wink:

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Yes both excellent jobs and I'm just off to the allotment (Or as the Committee call it "the Leisure Gardens"!)
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Well its all finished and competed in 2 events, an autotest and the Saltire Rally I was aiming to do. The car was performing really well, very chuckable
and the Quaiffe diff allowed it to power slide. The slow pick up due to the carb set up reared its head twice on the distillery tests, so need to try the smaller chokes. Broke a couple of teeth on the crownwheel which put us out, having a good time up till then.

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Glad its all up and running , not so glad about the crownwheel , looks a great car
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Well done Scott.
That photo is a cracker & the Imp is looking pretty impressive too... :wink:

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very nice imp scott ,keep up the good work harry.
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It's fabulous to see the culmination of all your efforts being given a sound thrashing, Scott! :lol: Nice one! :wink:

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3 weeks to one of my favourite events - the Edradour Saltire Classic Rally.
Time to get the car ready, last used it on the 2nd January for the Hangover Autotest, drove it there and the lack of an effective heater was a bit unpleasant :evil:.

Today was 10 degrees and sunny ideal for working outside and did wonder if I really needed a heater with winter weather like this :lol:

I think the problem is the water takes the easy route and flows through the main circuit and there is no/minimal flow through the heater, so have put a small electric pump in the heater circuit and wired it through the heater blower.
Will see how it performs :)

Removed the hydraulic handbrake as they are no longer permitted and changed the master cylinder to a .625 from .7 as I did not like the feel got them bleed and adjusted.

Managed to work to 5.15pm before light started to fail :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D I really dislike the short days but there going fast.

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The car is looking grand, Scott. :) Let us know how well the booster pump for the heater works. It sounds as though it should do the trick.

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It'll certainly make you warmer! 8)

Be interested to know if the booster pump/heater fan combo (good idea btw) drops the engine temp significantly, especially on cold days. Clan004
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Lovely day again, 10 degrees but cloudier than yesterday :D

Got reducer I ordered yesterday to complete the heater circuit. Works very well, started the car (fired first time before it even completed one revolution -having the choke connected really does make a difference) and left it to idle within a few minutes the radiator was warm so switched on the fan/pump and joy warm air emitted from the heater :D It works so well I think it would be a worthwhile mod for a standard car to improve the heater.

Pump here if anyone interested also available with push on fittings
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L-e-c don't anticipate any drop in running temp as using EWP and controller so they control the water temp - only difference is likely to be the EWP working less.

Also changed the way the fuel tank is held in place, rather than held in place by stainless steel straps which are a pain to bolt in/remove I used ratchet straps so that the tank can now be removed and replaced in minutes - made possible because the tank outlets are at the top and can be removed without draining.

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Changed the pulley on the alternator from large alloy one to standard as not charging at idle which has been a pain in the past due to the battery going flat
PCT's and autotest and some historic rallies mean the car is sitting idling for a while to keep the engine temp up before giving it the beans :lol:

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Next on the list is to redesign the cold air box for the carbs, to give more clearance, adding a drain to allow the fuel that occasionally drips from the throat of the carbs and to make it easier to remove.

And one for Meltdown - Exhaust mounted on the rear crossmember but the attatchment to the first silencer is a slip joint
ie the outer just slides over the inner - more by accident than design but it works. :lol:

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Very nice day here today 10 degrees with brilliant sunshine :D

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Removed K&N's and started on cold air box but stalled when I realised the arms for the spot welder were still at the imp I was welding up last week.
Back there on Saturday and will bring them home then.

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Drain for any fuel that drip from carb

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Tapered to clear

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Are you going to recycle the fuel that leaks from the carbs? :idea: With the current price level, it might be worth your while! Filtered, of course. :wink:

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IM not enough fuel to fill an egg cup but did melt the foam sealing the cover :(

Not happy with first attempt
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Non slip strip for brake and clutch pedal arrived today - not bad for £2.08 (idea lifted from moose :wink: )

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One week to go until the Edradour Saltire rally :D

Finished the cold air box but took 3 attempts to get it so I was happy

Sorted a few other bits and then took it for a run - pleased with the way it was going :lol:

Got a few things still to do during the week including resetting the front suspension.

Also got Amy's new car - Toyota Yaris to get ready - although we have not heard from the insurance yet, her Micra will be written off. She's enjoying running about in a brand new Fiesta hired by the other party's insurance so the longer they take to sort the better :lol:

So far the third parties insurance company has been very good, hope the rest is as good as the start, although if I was being cynical its cheaper for them to deal direct rather than us going through an "Accident Management Co".

We went to look at a number of cars and as soon as she sat in the Yaris she knew it was the one :roll: . There was another customer interested in the car at full retail and explained to Amy that it would be better for the dealership to sell to him rather than us at trade price. So Amy says well you'll just have to offer him sexual favours or something :lol: I went to talk to the guys and to find out the story and get the keys for a test drive and looked outside to see her standing next to her sister with the bottom lip trembling staring at us :roll: Anyway we got the car without any extras. :wink:

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Finally got a mo to read some other threads...

Looking good :D I arrived at the same idea re. non-slip sheet for pedals, way cheaper than anti-slip paint and a damn sight less messy to apply...may need to resole the race boots occasionally, though.
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I too am glad to hear that your car is running well, Scott. :) :) When you say resetting the front suspension, does that mean the spring and damper settings?

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bks974c wrote:IM not enough fuel to fill an egg cup but did melt the foam sealing the cover :(

Not happy with first attempt
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bit more progress on the rest

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Non slip strip for brake and clutch pedal arrived today - not bad for £2.08 (idea lifted from moose :wink: )

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Ah but the grain on my pedals is 90 degrees to your patent :wink:

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well your in real trouble then as that is the get out i used with the symtech lawyers now they will be after you as your grain alignment will match theirs! :lol:

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Just as well mine's at 45 degrees, then :lol:
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And mine will be at 117.2 degrees. 8)

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ImpManiac wrote:I too am glad to hear that your car is running well, Scott. :) :) When you say resetting the front suspension, does that mean the spring and damper settings?

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Reset the camber & tracking and have a play with the shocks as turn in/front end grip not great.

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Here's my high tech camber guage - surprisingly effective.

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String provides the vertical plane and the difference between the inner rim at the top and bottom set at 1/4" (more at the top) which should be about 1degree negative.
Adjustment to the camber was done using the spring platforms only.

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Then the tracking rest using my equally high tech guage. The jars are essential althougth they could be substituted for beaked bean tins but heinz only :lol:
Its made from a tube with a nut bonded to one end and a length of threaded rod screwed in and a locking nut to hold it in place.
The guage is sat on the jars to ensure a constant height. The threaded rod is screwed in/out as appropriate until the guage is a sliding fit on the forward inner rim( I use the lower step on the rim as less likely to suffer from damage). Then the guage is moved to the rear, the tracking is adjusted until the rear is 3mm wider than the front ( ie toe in) - after every adjustment you have reset the tracking guage so it fits the front and recheck the rear.

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Car loaded on the trailer ready for the off.

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The front has excess clearance and needs the shims in the stub arms played with so I can lower the spring platforms and maintain the 1 degree of camber.
However having said that the car now turns in well with plenty of grip, no understeer but lowering it to give the same ground clearance front and rear will reduce the roll centre.

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As usual Saltire Rally was a cracking event, this year was in effect a new event as it had a new start venue and lots of new tests.

Arrived at 8.30am on the Saturday to help with the set up, unloaded the Imp and dropped the trailer in the trailer park, then took Skoda to set up the tests. Arriving at Edradour distillery the site of two of the tests and event sponsor spotted an oil rainbow spreading from under the car, on the way from the previous test on a farm road had dropped a wheel into a pothole and must have damaged the sump. Cleaned up as much of the oil now speading down the car park as I could, abandoned the Skoda where it was and continued in another car.

Saturday evening borrowed a Shogun to pick up the trailer and go and recover the Skoda back to the hotel, only for the trailer plug to break :twisted: Abandoned that plan.

On Sunday at the start wipers packed up :roll: Test 1 (section of old A9) sliding around the cones found in the leaf litter a kerb which stopped the car dead.
Test 2 (access road for quarry) we set fastest time. Test 3 (working sawmill) got lost and confused. Test 4 (contractors yard) set 3rd fastest time but belted the n/s rear wheel against a kerb again. Game over, left the Imp overnight in the yard.

Monday helped with the clear up and one of the lads arranged for a trailer board to be dropped off at the hotel then picked up Skoda and Imp at the hotel.
Phoned recovery and went into hotel for coffee and they were at the hotel within the hour just as we were finishing the coffee :D 90 minutes late I was home.

Tuesday sump replaced on the Skoda and serviced as well - extreme way to go about oil change :lol:

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ouch :oops: :oops:

i did a similar thing to mine only less extreme as ive managed to bend my trailing arm when i span off and clouted a curb on the last track day i did, as i say mines not as bad as yours tho but i did rip the tyre off :oops: .

is there much that can be done to make the trailing arms stonger? reinforced?

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