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Whoops,missed one of Les's pics
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A couple more pictures of the mason imp currently under restoration

If all goes to plan it should be out next season competing in the semsec championship
The owner is making a stunning job of the rebuild, it should be very competitive.
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here's a few more pics to add to the thread.

John Whyte's BDH engined British Hillclimb Leaders Championship winning Imp:-

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Mason Stiletto at Knockhill (semi spaceframe):-

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These are fantastic,great stuff.Stuart,any chance of getting the owner to take some nekkid pics. :lol:
Alan,a Knockhill regular!Where on earth did all the 1000 special saloons from Ingliston go? :shock:

Love those "spokey" wheels.What are they,Compomotives?
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Have some up to date pictures of the mason imp project,can honestly say will be a work of art the owner Brian is a right old woman :lol: :lol:
Will e-mail them to Colin should really work out how to do it myself!!
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Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

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I'm afraid they handle appalllingly,Maurice Cullen cant even go round a corner but the things trying to tip over :wink:
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Speedy had a pic of Leo Nulty taking an EVO something round the outside,on 3 wheels,I'll try and find it

Found it,cracking pic,Leo passing the EVO.
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There's these as well-Maurice Cullen

Leo Nulty


Enjoy :D (Turn up the volume)
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And while I think about it,better put these in-
Maurices gorgeous Davrian Imp
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Leos' immaculate example
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Davrian imps handle as good as a spaceframe i think you will find its all down to driver style and Maurice likes to have the car set up soft so it digs in and lifts the front wheel as high as in the picture above ,all imps will tend to get a wheel of the ground like the 1 of leo going around the outside of the evo ,this is down to the short springs and the suspension being strapped up to stop the shock dropping and the spring becoming loose

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Hi all, great thread! Good idea John! I'll have a root around and see what I can dig out. I actually have some great pictures of the old <1350cc Irish GT class, which Col's father Dan dominated in the late 80s and early 90s, despite the presence of numerous Davrians, 1380 Minis and semi spaceframe Midgets! I'd like to think I am having similar battles with similar cars these days but the ban on slicks means that even with track improvements, I can't get anywhere near the times Dan used to so around Mondello 20 years ago! Mind you, I'm lucky I have the tyres to blame cos I wouldn't fancy my chances in a straight fight with Mr Rooney Senior anyway!!!
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Here's a great picture of David Hall in his 1220cc "Hallspeed" Davrian Imp at Mondello.......

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Cracking picture there leo of hall leading mick hills beetle with fintan cunningham in the mini not sure who was in the escort but thats basil dagg in the rawlson imp ,think at the time of this race my dad was working is tanzania and was due back the following weekend which he was a bit upset about as he would have loved to been out with the english cars,

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speeddemon wrote:Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

Thanks mike
Yeah, as ever, Col is spot on. I haven't really started changing the chassis set up on mine (the white one in the gallery) as we were chasing a misfire and a soft brake pedal most of the season, but I do intend to play with it a little this year. It tends towards a little understeer on turn in but if I throw it in it is fine, then it is a matter of timing. As soon as I feel the back beginning to let go (before the apex) I stand on the power and it just squatts and goes, that is where it gains most time on other cars. If I am slow in getting the power on, it will need an armful of opposite lock to sort it and is easily held, but this slows the corner exit. You can see most of this on the above youtube clip, especially on the last corner when the back can brake away just after turn in. (Ignore lap one, that's one of my many boo-boos!!)
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few pics that leo sent me to stick on 1st is halls imp
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ned murrays rawlson infront of my dad in his original imp which was an x fraser car and he still has the fuel tank and reverse gear lever the throttle pedal and clutch rest pedal are still in my race imp plus steering wheel
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this is the vivan candy imp which was originaly david halls imp
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and this is a rear shot of hall or candy
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Pan mannion in the revolution wheels stiletto
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A couple more pictures of the car before the decision was made to make a continuation spaceframe

The engine will be very high spec including dry sump and fuel injection running 8 injecters
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Guys , i need a picture of the chimp , can someone put one up, preferably from all angles. Thanks mike
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I do like to see the Davrian kit in action, can someone tell me please if they where full or semi's? this is my mk1 kit grafted onto a steel shell that I would like to do a semi, starting with the front.

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Also if people do do a little meet up with the spaceframes Id love to come along if youd let me!, I know mine isnt one but it yearns to be one of the kool kids lol.
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Guys this is a good thing sure enough,this is the most interesting toy shop that ive ever seen,now lets get them out to race and have a massive meet in ireland and the uk,i am in,i can bring three or four racing imps with me that i own no problem,it seems weve started a revival and one of the most viewed forum pages on this site :shock: :D


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yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics!
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[quote="chris"]yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics![/q
So we encouraged you then to view our pages,that is positive

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A Bevan Spaceframe IMP..

This is the only Bevan Car I can actually remember racing.

It used lotus parts for the supsension with a ford BDG engine and Hewland Gearbox.

It was actually the last Bevan car.........

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some nice peices of kit coming out and well done on yours chris. looks well.

The last one looks a pure monster.
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Chris most of the davrian imps were full fiberglass but there was a few which had a spaceframe chassis ,but i know that leo's and Maurice's cars are all glass

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Thanks Colin, I didn't realise they where full fiberglass, interesting that fact!
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Earling Jensen's spaceframe 998 stiletto , multi outright championship winning car in the castle combe special GT championship in the 1990s looked after by Ray Payne . Its best time was 1:06 in practice ( 1:07 in the races ) on the old circuit , thats averaging 100 mph .., The most successful space frame Imp of the later years having won the same championship outright in Brian cuttings hands on more than one occasion It was a giant Killer :D
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I own the body moulds which i purchased a few years ago that came from an owner that owned this earling jensen special imp,nice to see this pictures as ive not seen it before

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Keith who was that then! PM me if you want.
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[quote][/quote]Earling Jensen's spaceframe 998 stiletto , multi outright championship winning car in the castle combe special GT championship in the 1990s looked after by Ray Payne . Its best time was 1:06 in practice ( 1:07 in the races ) on the old circuit , thats averaging 100 mph .., The most successful space frame Imp of the later years having won the same championship outright in Brian cuttings hands on more than one occasion It was a giant Killer

is this not your car rob

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Guys i think weve created a monster imp forum race page its wonderful,it is better than meeting demi moore,john donald from ireland started it on thursday night and were heading for 90 plus posts,the good thing is anyone thats posted has an interest and more important alot have actually a race imp themselfs,let get this day organised


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would I be invited with my fake one lol
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Why wouldnt you be,your work is stunning well done to you,you are a genuine lad i know you are

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yes mate we woulnt leave you out in the cold :)

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Yes Colin that why i wanted to know who the owner was.
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This bike engined imp was for sale on piston heads a few weeks ago for £7500 (now sold)
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same here, i saw it advertised and wondered who bought it. i think its in the shape of the moulds you say.
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I have moulds for this jedi imp,also robert your car belonged to phil lomas,george douglas in the west country they raced it at castle combe gt silloutte championship,the jedi imp went back to scotland according to one guy,it was seen on the strannear ferry boat last tuesday evening,before that it belonged to ken steed newtonards co down,also his brother has les998 old black maguire stilletto,before that it went to mira to be wind tested,his name is mark steed both genuine guys and i know them cause we race together,there is a picture of the three cars including mine at a hillclimb in banbridge i will try to dig it out,guys this is exciting we have something special going here


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think it went to ireland but its not davrian paneled but nice looking car
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Keith your quite right, theres alot of interest here and as colin as pointed out theres a new site called 'the hundreds and thousands society' which you can join for nothing.

However if we are gonna rebuild or build new cars and are gonna have any chance of racing we need some BODY PANELS. Keith if you have the 2 sets and wanna get people on the road no point them sitting there idol get them up and running at a good price and lets get cracking . Maybe your the key to it.

Carnt wait to hear from you and see your collection

ps still no pics of that CHIMP
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i am checking my pictures right now,i will help anyone at any time day or night,but as i dont contruct the panels myself at my premises it get s harder when you have to pay i will treat people fair but i need to cover what i spend

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If people are building them or want to build them, this is one of the things we must look at. Like i said its no good something sitting there and wanting heavy money and nobody buys it. Its not what i would call making sense. theres also the way we are all living at the moment. REcession! which as effected everyone.

However if we can get the panels at a great price im sure we could get more cars out there running. Whilst we are getting a lot of interest on this thread let us have the best prices so we can get on with it.

Im an honest guy and if for some reason i cannot get the panels at sensible money Id be pretty upset and would probably go buy something else.

As you said you have a man who has done the work for you, maybe it would be worth a look around for a new contact as fibreglassing is on the downturn that you could find cheaper.

the reason i say this as i know a few companies that make bodies for hotrods in kevlar and there under a grand and the cars are bigger cars.

Dont think im being funny about your price as i know you love imps and im sure you will come up trumps with a good package . let us know asap.
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ok get the car ready and we can look at it then but if i get three car shells we can work alot better faster and it saves me boxing it,transporting to different locations,i wont go away from the guy i currently use ive known him allmy life keith
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keith, dont think that would work as you carnt build a car without the silhouette ? I dont understand the case of saying do 3 body shells cos if theres interest and there at the right money you want to be thinking 10 minimum. But people aint gonna get involved unless the price is right. There is a lot of love for them and theres a lot of shit out there waiting to be completed, but i can tell you the main thing holding the job back is the body shells and the price, thats what people have said to me previously.

find me that pic of the chimp it must be on your pc somewhere.
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Hi,

The answer to who bought the yellow Jedi Stiletto on piston heads is George Gunn up in the north of Scotland, He Raced Imps in the 80s at Ingliston and Knockhill, and he has decided that he is coming out to play again. 8)
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I believe Tim Duffee still has the moulds for the Davrian.
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I think were all getting a bit excited about all these cars that were out there but most are in bits or have been taken apart and sold or scrapped ,but i have seen this all before on another forum loads of intrest in special saloons racing but it always falls flat ,i do hope that the best way forward is the hundread thousand series and for it to work people need to join up and be prepared to take there cars to a photo shoot for a magazine article if and when gerry richards get the knod , until then keep the pictures coming and building them cars and i will be busy playing with my imp at lydden and anglesey and hope to do mondello as well this season


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