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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:09 pm

Bits arrived , no wear in the bodies at all and new spindles feel smooth with no play . not fitted back on yet though , i used loctite 248 on the throttle valve screws but im not sure if its fuel proof , its blue so will come apart again using hand tools plus the screws are split so do bend to prevent them coming out.
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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by The Nun » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:09 pm

Yes I think I would carefully splay the screw ends as well, could wreck the engine if one got sucked in, not worth risking
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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by moose » Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:12 am

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No mention of petrol proof but the above is fine for carb screws.
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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by 617sqn » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:02 am

£7.50 is a bit expensive for four drops ! :lol: I had my carbs originally rebuilt by a well known professional company when I first got them. They hadn't used either method to secure the carb screws. Rough running after a few weeks revealed that one screw had vanished. Fortunately, no obvious damage occurred - lucky I guess :shock:

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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by The Nun » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:14 am

I had a screw loose and got sucked into the engine :o , when it happened, at idle actually, a tapping sound sudden began, it sounds what I thought might have been a cracked tappet, but removing the cover found it wasnt that and turning the engine by hand I noticed at TDC it felt like a small stiff point before it went over, I then removed the head and found the throttle disc screw embedded in the top of one piston and that protruded enough to hit the head when you turned it over. Had I been going fast enough the screw might have gone right through and out the exhaust or thumped itself further into the piston so you didnt know, since then Ive always checked the screw thread is staked so theres no chance of them coming out on their own. Like Andy says I checked a pair of pro built carbs and they didnt appear to have anything holding the screws secure other than tightness?
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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:31 pm

started instantly and ticking over steady and smooth , more to do but its looking promising :D
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Re: The Vusky. After 12 years me SUs need help

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:13 pm

Starts instantly hot or cold , pulls much better and revs like a mad thing , probably some fine tuning to do when they settle in but its all looking promising :D
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Re: The Vusky. SUs need help - almost sorted

Post by bazzateer » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:01 pm

Good news Dave!
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Re: The Vusky. SUs need help - almost sorted

Post by moose » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:54 pm

Nice job as usual, will get you the ignition system to you next week.
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Re: The Vusky. New carpet at long last.

Post by Grahame59 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:17 am

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:Final piece of the Vuskys carpet done.
Having finally tracked down the rivets Rootes used Ive refitted the original rear seat leg pads although ive put them where my seats touch not the original position as my seats are different :D
Hi Dave,

I have some new carpets to fit but they don't come with the pads fitted and I have been trying to source the correct rivets so I could transfer the pads from my original carpets. Have just seen your post. Where did you get your rivets from?
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Re: The Vusky. New carpet at long last.

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:46 pm

Grahame59 wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:Final piece of the Vuskys carpet done.
Having finally tracked down the rivets Rootes used Ive refitted the original rear seat leg pads although ive put them where my seats touch not the original position as my seats are different :D
Hi Dave,

I have some new carpets to fit but they don't come with the pads fitted and I have been trying to source the correct rivets so I could transfer the pads from my original carpets. Have just seen your post. Where did you get your rivets from?
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Re: The Vusky. New carpet at long last.

Post by Grahame59 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
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Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:Final piece of the Vuskys carpet done.
Having finally tracked down the rivets Rootes used Ive refitted the original rear seat leg pads although ive put them where my seats touch not the original position as my seats are different :D
Hi Dave,

I have some new carpets to fit but they don't come with the pads fitted and I have been trying to source the correct rivets so I could transfer the pads from my original carpets. Have just seen your post. Where did you get your rivets from?
Local fastener place after looking on line everywhere , Wentin fasteners - Yeovil
Thanks, Dave. I had a look on their website ( www.wentinfasteners.co.uk ) and can't see them. Nothing under 'rivets'. Any chance you could have a look?
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Re: The Vusky. New carpet at long last.

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:26 pm

Grahame59 wrote:
Thanks, Dave. I had a look on their website ( http://www.wentinfasteners.co.uk ) and can't see them. Nothing under 'rivets'. Any chance you could have a look?
Not on their site apparently , they have 4 sizes and like a numbnut i didnt note what mine are , he does 4 sizes 9 x 10/16 x 1/2 . 9 x 5/8 x 1/4 , 9 x 1" x 1/2 and the one i think ive got which is 9 x 5/8 x 1/2 . i think 9 is the size , 5/8 the overall length and 1/2 is the split . id call him to confirm that :)
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Re: The Vusky. SUs need help - almost sorted

Post by Lotus-e-Clan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:31 pm

Fantastic Job Dave.

A proper 'history car'. 8)

Weird seeing Lars' comments mind, such a GOOD bloke, some of us (like me) can only walk in his shadow (as a good human being). I miss his input. :cry:
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:47 pm

Its real sad Lars passed , he used to email me once a month or so for advise or a chat :(
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Re: The Vusky. SUs need help - almost sorted

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:16 pm

Sorted the reversing light issue on the Vusky whereby it sometimes came on in second .
Adjustment error is almost non existent , talk about a fine line between working / not working / working in second and reverse or just reverse . what a faff about - and thats with a perfect lever ball and perfect stainless selector shaft :roll:
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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by The Nun » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:35 pm

Andy Gill I believe does his with a proximity switch inside the car detecting the base of the lever, a better solution maybe, especially for setting and access?
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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:41 pm

The Nun wrote:Andy Gill I believe does his with a proximity switch inside the car detecting the base of the lever, a better solution maybe, especially for setting and access?
If i didnt have the late factory lever base with the switch mount on it id do it inside the car
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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by Lotus-e-Clan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:20 pm

The Clan has a purpose-made lever clamped to the selector rod toward the transaxle end (flexi-end)

There is a micro switch bolted to the central tunnel next to the lever on the selector rod.

You could easily use a random DIY lever clamped to the selector rod by a jubilee clip to operate the micro switch.

Dead easy to set-up and adjust to trigger reverse gear only. Micro switch just sinks the negative side of the circuit to ground... so no live stuff in the tunnel -unless in reverse!
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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by 617sqn » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:13 am

Mine is done with a magnetic proximity (Reed, I reckon) switch, as said all run inside the car and operating a relay, although they are small LEDs anyway.

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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by RoyBlunt » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:30 pm

Way back in the early 70's I fitted a reversing light switch to Suzy using a roller microswitch (fixed to the inside of the 'gear change tunnel' using an aluminium bracket) acting on a small strip of aluminium epoxied onto the gear change control rod (i.e. the long rod between the gear change lever and the flexible coupling to the transaxle). It's still working today - 1 transaxle and something like 100,000 miles later. Nice, easy, and worthwhile mod in my opinion. Mind you - fitting an automatic reversing light switch does mean that you can't give tail gaiters the fright of their lives by flicking the reversing lights on - not, of course, that I would ever have done anything like that!
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Re: The Vusky. SUs done - reversing light switch sorted

Post by 617sqn » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:51 pm

Indeed not, Roy. I never have either :wink:

Fitting the switch inside saves either crawling about underneath on axle stands etc or the need to get time on a ramp/2 post lift. Much more civilised, I reckon :lol:

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Re: The Vusky. Moose Ignition system fitted

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:27 pm

Fitted the Mike Dent ( AKA Moose ) ignition system on here as I did on the Singer . Only had to change one wire and that was the white / purple fuel pump supply , it reached but was a little tight for my liking so replaced all of it . rest have been clipped into place . I was going to loom tape some of it but dont see the point .
Now to fine tune the ignition system and then the rebuilt carbs over a few trips out :D
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted .

Post by The Nun » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:41 pm

I might have one if it comes with a whisky wrapper 8)
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted .

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:09 pm

The Nun wrote:I might have one if it comes with a whisky wrapper 8)
Just need a " spark by Moose " sticker now :lol:
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted .

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:08 pm

Testing testing -
As the carbs were overhauled and the New ignition system ala Moose were all done within 2 weeks its now time to get it set up perfectly . first off loads of short stop start runs ( mostly doing shopping :roll: ) Behaved perfectly doing this , tickover smooth and even , pulls away clean etc etc = Pass .
Then a few blasts on main roads .
Certainly has better acceleration in 1st to 3rd and its also very good at low revs in second and third , will pull clean in second from almost stationary .
Top end hasnt changed at all so its no quicker however its a much more relaxed and easy drive , smooth and generally a nicer place to be .
starting is instant no matter what the situation .
Malcolm Andersons box is feckin superb now its bedded in and the box is as it was in 91 when fitted - ie. the best ive ever known plus the clutch from Moose is also smooth and judder free .
So thanks to The Moose , Malcolm Anderson and of course ME :lol: for sorting this thing out
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by 617sqn » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:04 pm

Nice one, Dave. That vacuum gauge reminds me of the dials in old Triumphs ( 1300s, Toledo's, Dolomites etc ), with the multi-coloured sections :D

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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:11 pm

617sqn wrote:Nice one, Dave. That vacuum gauge reminds me of the dials in old Triumphs ( 1300s, Toledo's, Dolomites etc ), with the multi-coloured sections :D

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It does , gauge is actually very rare although you wouldnt know by just glancing at it - its marked in kpa instead of the usual INS/hg :)
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by 617sqn » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:09 pm

Took an image or two of my reversing light switch arrangement. The switch proper is mounted on an aluminium bracket using pop-rivets, and made from a short length of angle. The magnet is adhered to the gearstick with JB-weld or similar while positioned with a small pop-rivet. It is set up to allow for the rubber cover over the ball to pass between magnet and switch. Has worked unfailingly for many a year. The actual illumination is provided by 4 bright LEDs spaced around Stan's square rear numberplate.
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:17 pm

617sqn wrote:Took an image or two of my reversing light switch arrangement.
Certainly easier to sort than my factory one :roll: Vusky001
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:13 pm

72 miles hard driving done yesterday , mixture is bang on with the rebuilt carbs and the moose ignition system is bang on as it is in the Singer :D
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by oli » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:43 pm

What exactly is this 'Moose' ignition system all about then? Any details / availability / cost? Is it suitable for any Imp distributor? (Would be interested to know if I could use it i my 23D4 type casing which has conventional Competition innards).
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:11 pm

oli wrote:What exactly is this 'Moose' ignition system all about then? Any details / availability / cost? Is it suitable for any Imp distributor? (Would be interested to know if I could use it i my 23D4 type casing which has conventional Competition innards).
Message moose on here or mike dent on facebook , he developed it and is best to explain the system , i have it on my Singer as well , check my Nods news thread as its been put on there ,
yes im sure it can be used on a 23d4 as im using it on 25d4 , theres also a kit or adaptor for 45d4
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Re: The Vusky. Moose ignition system fitted - testing testi

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:22 pm

Well after a few months break i though id give the forum another go.
Vuskys been worked on a fair bit mainly to get the throttle response the same as the Singers ie. sharper and quicker as having got the Singers how i like it the Vuskys seemed a tad slow even though it felt fine before i did said Singers - weird how something is fine until you make it even better :lol: ,
I altered the Solex quadrant this set up uses and made it 6mm shorter at the ball end . This seemed the easiest way to do this although i could of altered the linkage bar length in just the same way .I also altered the return springs so the pedals softer - again just as the Singers is .
Its now so much better . Its strange how just 6mm in length makes so much difference
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Re: The Vusky. Springing into action ( but softer )

Post by 617sqn » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:07 pm

. Its strange how just 6mm in length makes so much difference
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Re: The Vusky. Springing into action ( but softer )

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:54 pm

Just a short update on this .
Well a few weeks has passed since i did the throttle response and spring alteration and after a few hundred miles i can say it feels so much better in every respect , really light but also very responsive . Engines pulling superbly and the clutch and box also feel great .
Only done one show this year in it thus far and that was last weekend at Shepton Mallet . Needs a polish and a wash but that can wait for a bit as ive house repairs to do first :roll:
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Re: The Vusky. Springing into action ( but softer )- review

Post by johnh875 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:34 am

Interesting to read on tweaks to fine-tune the driveability.
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Re: The Vusky. Front cover lock badge

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:16 pm

johnh875 wrote:Interesting to read on tweaks to fine-tune the driveability.
Thanks :)
In other news after much ado I managed to change the corroded and wobbly lidded lock cover badge with the better non corroded non wobbly lidded one I took off the Singer last week ( having picked up the mint NOS one for the Singer at Shepton - see nods news )

Obviously the Chammy badge had to come out which wasnt too bad , Removing my home made Commer one required destroying the old lid as I remember using some seriously strong glue at the time . Anyway eventually I got it sorted :D
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Re: The Vusky. Lock cover replacement .

Post by johnh875 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:11 am

Yes there is something to be said about not attaching things too well... My uncle used to street-park his BMW in inner Melbourne and occasionally had the bonnet badge stolen. When asking if it could be attached more firmly to avoid that, the parts department said yes, but then instead of a $50 badge it will cost $500 to respray the bonnet when they damage it trying to get the badge off!
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Re: The Vusky. Lock cover replacement .

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:25 pm

Seeing as i was given the CO meter a few weeks back and tooned up the Singer with it with great success i thought id check the Vuskys today . a bit rich at 5% on tickover so I lowered it a tad , its now set at 4% ( 4.4% on this meter ) , balance was spot on as was the plug colours . Advanced the timing a tad as well.

Its all good :D
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No.4 . Always more deposits on this rear plug on both cars for some reason .
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