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Post by MattorMatty » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:10 pm

Thanks IM! The wheel arches were homemade, fibreglass skin popped riveted to the body and then filler on the outside to blend them in and more filler in the wheel arches to seal them up. Funnily enough they weighed quite a lot when I pulled them off with all that filler used.

Thanks Gary! Slowly but surely it'll get there. I'm looking to forward to getting to the stage you are at, so close to some colour.

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Post by MattorMatty » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:44 pm

Small update and I'll like to apologies for a lack of photos coming up and what photos there is aren't the best but space is a bit limited as you've most likely have already worked out. Most of the work done in this update was done whilst sitting under a shelf, the joys of a single garage.

So cutting out the plates and rot left quite a nice hole on the front valance and surrounding floor as seen in the last update. John Ross; you did have to cut more out of George than I had to out of Clive. As the old plates ran from the corners to under the front suspension plate fearing the worst I drilled out the spot welds so I could cut off the old plates but lucky it was all solid under there so not sure why it was plated up but at least only the corners needed attention instead of the whole length of the valance floor.

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Do you think lunchtime was called whilst this was being spot welded? As one corner wasn't even welded.

Made a new corner and even remembered to drill the drain holes which makes a change.

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Same again on the otherside which I haven't got a photo for and you guys have to use your imagination on how they fit as no photo yet, I'll take one when its next rolled over and add on to a future update.

So with all the floor nice and solid again better make the valance itself. Took me two attempts as the first go I cut it roughly to shape but then couldn't roll the bottom curve along the length as there wasn't enough metal to handle in the middle section. So second attempt I left it as a rectangle and then rolled the bottom (which I did by tacking the ends to a piece of tube and then start to form it around the tube and kept moving it up until the panel was rolled enough) and then trimmed to shape followed by a quick visit the shrinker to give the slight curve.

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Needs a skim a filler to blend in but at least not a can of expanding foam this time.

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Post by ImpManiac » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:00 pm

Lovely work, Matty! :mrgreen: You're improving your skills all the time. :wink:
MattorMatty wrote:Needs a skim a filler to blend in but at least not a can of expanding foam this time.
Best avoided... :? :lol:

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Post by MattorMatty » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:16 pm

Update time!
Time for the first wheel arch panel to go on. The old arch had a new panel 'welded' on however it was slid behind the original rusty one and then 'welded' and seam sealed on, so the whole lot had to go.

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New panel held in place for a little mojo boost.

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Here you can see the previous repair to the arch, note the pop-rivets!

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The old arch was cut out and the new panel was trimmed to fit the hole so inner arches how hard are they to make? ... Turns out very. Read stories about the fit of the inner arches available and not wanting to spend £80 a corner on something that's not going to fit so out came the grinder. I wanted to make each section as big as possible but trying to get all the curves correct was a bit of a nightmare as I got one correct and fitting nicely and the next pass through the shrinker for the next curve would throw the first curve out. Got there in the end, had to make each section smaller than I hoped.
All welded up and a couple of coats of Por-15.

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The repair panel didn't quite cover all the rust on the front corner below the indicator, I do have the correct panel for this corner that was left over from the welding was done on EXF but I didn't want to cut up a £50 panel for such a small piece. So made the small piece with a return flange to be welded to the flange on the front panel.

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All welded up and cleaned back.

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The outer panel welded in to place, it will need a skim of filler but no where near the amount that came off.

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A quick skim of filler and some paint to protect the new metal until paint prep later on.

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Post by impstress2003 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:10 pm

Awesome work matt, making your own inner arches is very satisfying!
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Post by ImpManiac » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:29 pm

As Simon said, well done! :D That looks really good.

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Post by MattorMatty » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:18 pm

ImpManiac wrote:As Simon said, well done! :D That looks really good.

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impstress2003 wrote:Awesome work matt, making your own inner arches is very satisfying!
Thanks guys! The comments are certainly appreciated in helping to keep the mojo up when faced with rust repairs.

Moving to the nearside rear wheel arch there are three areas of concern/previous patches/rust.
1- End of sill area which extends up in the seam of the two wheel arch sections.
2- Spring cone and surrounding area.
3- Random hole.

Area number 3 first seeing as its the smallest hole.

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Its always a good sign when you start cutting a plate off and rust falls down ...

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What a nice hole, I'd guess this was caused by a leaky rear side window as the parcel shelf area above is also completely rotten as well.

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So the main section was cut out and replaced, I made it oversized initially and then used the stretcher to put the curve into the metal and then trimmed down to size and welded into place. Did take two attempts as on the first one I cut the angle on the top join wrong and when cut correctly it made the piece too small for the hole!

Moving on to the second piece which overlaps the first, was surprising tricky to do as the right hand edge is flat (ok, yes it has a slight curve to it so not exactly flat) but the left hand edge has a step so the little piece has to go from the step to flat in around inch and a half. I tried making it one piece with a curved transition from step to flat like it had from the factory but couldn't get it to fit, so I made it in two pieces in the same way i did with the exhaust heat shield ie welding the step into the flat.

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Sorry I got carried away and didn't take a photo of the area before painting it with Por's, by the time the wheel arch is filled with dirt you hopefully wont by able to tell its been repaired.

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Post by MattorMatty » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:26 pm

John,

I know what you mean about POR15 I've used it for a few years and never had a problem with it, until I painted the underside of spare wheel well area and that just flaked off and had to clean it off and redo it.

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Post by ImpManiac » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:56 pm

Lovely work, Matt! Your car is coming along a treat. :mrgreen:

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Post by yoeddynz » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:06 am

I'll be using some Por 15 on my Imp. I know from using it plenty of times in the past that it sticks really well to cleaned off dust and flake free rusty surfaces.
But what about on rusty items that is ever so slightly oily ? example- my trailing arms. Is there any advice on what I could clean such things with- I am guessing petrol followed by meths and bake it off in the sun so its nice and dry.
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Post by The Nun » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:23 am

yoeddynz wrote:I'll be using some Por 15 on my Imp. I know from using it plenty of times in the past that it sticks really well to cleaned off dust and flake free rusty surfaces.
But what about on rusty items that is ever so slightly oily ? example- my trailing arms. Is there any advice on what I could clean such things with- I am guessing petrol followed by meths and bake it off in the sun so its nice and dry.
Brake cleaner is excellent for removing oil and grease and it dries very fast too, you can buy it in 5 litre cans for only £15 as well works out far cheaper than buying in the small tins too.
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Post by yoeddynz » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:00 am

Ahhh yes. Good idea. Our local Repco (NZ Halfords) always does specials on 5 large spray cans of brake cleaner. I'll use that. Then bake it super dry in the sun.
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Post by ImpManiac » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:51 pm

I'd actually be more inclined to use a water-based degreaser. I have used Jizer in the past and it works well. I have had even better experiences with Bilt Hamber degreaser, though, although the name of it currently eludes me! :? Mind you, I doubt either product is available in NZ.

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Post by MattorMatty » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:54 pm

yoeddynz wrote:I'll be using some Por 15 on my Imp. I know from using it plenty of times in the past that it sticks really well to cleaned off dust and flake free rusty surfaces.
But what about on rusty items that is ever so slightly oily ? example- my trailing arms. Is there any advice on what I could clean such things with- I am guessing petrol followed by meths and bake it off in the sun so its nice and dry.

For bolt on parts I've used engine degreaser and then pressure washed off and left to dry. POR15 does have its own Cleaner Degreaser.

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Post by yoeddynz » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:20 pm

ImpManiac wrote:I have had even better experiences with Bilt Hamber degreaser, though, although the name of it currently eludes me! :? Mind you, I doubt either product is available in NZ.

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Post by MattorMatty » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:09 pm

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Lets get back to the rear nearside wheel arch to be more precise the rear sill area. It started of with one small patch (doesn't it always) cut it off to reveal a small hole on the wheel arch join seam.

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Cleaning the area with the knot wheel made the hole 'slightly' bigger and spread further up the join.

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Out came the slitting disc and the bad metal was removed, since I need to replace the rear wings I could cut an access hole to drill out the spot welds that hold the inner wheel arch return flange to the outside of the rear storage bin.

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The new repair panel almost ready to be welded in.

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Again sorry not the best photo but its all welded in.

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Post by ImpManiac » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:01 pm

Great work! 8) Did you make the repair section up in pieces?

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Post by MattorMatty » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:22 pm

ImpManiac wrote:Great work! 8) Did you make the repair section up in pieces?

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The wheel arch repair on the end of sill was one piece, on the other side I did in two pieces as on the first one I made the vertical strip fitted well but lower sill closing part didn't, so cut that off and remade that section.

Update on the Chamois is that its off the rotisserie and onto axle stands so I can fit the rear body cross member to help get the Expressed lower rear wings panels all lined up. Lately haven't been in the mood to do rust repairs even though I'm close to finishing them so turned my attention to the something else; wheels. The car will sit on standard steels that have blasted and then primered and sprayed in a generic Old English White which will be the same colour as the stripe going to be.

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Post by The Nun » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:35 pm

Standard hub caps and wheel trims too?
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Post by MattorMatty » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:59 pm

The Nun wrote:Standard hub caps and wheel trims too?
Standard hub caps = Yes
Wheel trims = I doubt it but I've got a set in case I change my mind

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Post by tiker » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:53 pm

Some great work there Matty you will be overtaking me soon my cars been sat for months just other things on at the moment keep going it's getting better every day :-)
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Post by yoeddynz » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:44 pm

Do or have many people widened the standard Imp 12" wheel? I'm guessing its not really worth doing due to lack of decent wider tyres though..

I love the look of standard steels with shiny hubcaps... especially widened. My Viva on its widened steels.... (car now sold but i have a set of them for the HB wagon :-)

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Post by MattorMatty » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:45 pm

tiker wrote:Some great work there Matty you will be overtaking me soon my cars been sat for months just other things on at the moment keep going it's getting better every day :-)
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Thanks Gary! You'll finish before me especially once you get your new garage all up and running, its taken me 3 and a half years to get to this stage.
yoeddynz wrote:Do or have many people widened the standard Imp 12" wheel? I'm guessing its not really worth doing due to lack of decent wider tyres though..

I love the look of standard steels with shiny hubcaps... especially widened. My Viva on its widened steels.... (car now sold but i have a set of them for the HB wagon :-)
I am planning on getting a pair of steels widened by an inch and a half to bring them up to 6 inch for the rear (and fit 175/70/12 tyres) just to fill the rear arches a little more, as I do like staggered wheels on my other Imp I have 7's on the back and 6's on the front.

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Post by yoeddynz » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:49 pm

cool. looking forward to seeing this. Will it be lowered a tad to suit?
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Post by MattorMatty » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:34 pm

yoeddynz wrote:cool. looking forward to seeing this. Will it be lowered a tad to suit?
It'll be on Monte Carlo springs so a little drop.

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Post by MattorMatty » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:35 pm

Another belated update.
I've been making steady progress on the nearside rear corner, well okay I started it in April and just finished it so its more glacier pace. I'll do an update about that soon.
Some of you might remember that I welded up the old sunroof hole and at the time all was well but I had a door hinge box fall from the garage loft onto the repair and at first I thought I got away with it with only a small dent but I noticed later on that the repair now 'pops' up and down. So I made a strengthening brace to go in and well strengthen it :lol:

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So out came the bead roller and one brace was made which says 'SPORT' even though no-one will see it once the headlining goes up. Ohh how I missed having the car up on the rotisserie as i forgot how much a pain it is welding above your head.

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Post by MattorMatty » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:51 pm

Progress is still ticking along on the Sport, got the nearside rear corner all done. I used a outer wheel arch repair panel for the inner wheel arch and Expressed Panels lower rear wing panel. As you can guess with this Imp there wasn't much left of the original inner wheel arch but using the repair panel worked quite nicely had to tweak it a bit to fit with the Expressed Panel wing but that was expected and then made up all the bits like where it joins the rear of the sill.

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Once all the welding had been completed, everything got painted in a rust converter and zinc primed then seam sealed and sprayed in body colour. Some sound deadening was applied and the wing welded on. Have to get a photo of the completed wing but the car is starting to get somewhere now with a 'completed' side as long as you ignore the completely misaligned door.

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Also made a new battery tray.

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Post by The Nun » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:39 pm

What's the anti drum material you're using?
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Post by Lotus-e-Clan » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 pm

FAB metalwork skills - be proud! 8)

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Post by tiker » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:04 am

It's coming along its getting all the joints on the wheel arches to line up ,inner to outer I found one of the most time consuming jobs ,stick at it your doing a grand job
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Post by bazzateer » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:26 am

The Nun wrote:What's the anti drum material you're using?
It's on the product 'Silent Coat' ☺
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Post by MattorMatty » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:06 pm

The Nun wrote:What's the anti drum material you're using?
As Baz has said its Silent Coat I've got the 2mm thick sheets.
Lotus-e-Clan wrote:FAB metalwork skills - be proud! 8)

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Post by MattorMatty » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:11 pm

So the Sport is finally back on its wheels after spending 1145 days (27,480 hours (dread to think how many of them I spent welding)) on the rotisserie but now after new floor panels, new outer sills, new heater sills, repaired inner sills, 4 inner wheel arch repairs, two front outer wheel arch repairs, two lower rear wings panels, front valance repaired, front compartment floor repaired, rear suspension cones replaced, both A-posts repaired, plus various holes. The shell is almost solid only the rear parcel shelf remains.

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Now the rear parcel shelf was the first bit of welding I did on the Sport over four years ago, as in its previous life it had a bike engine fitted with air ducting from the rear side windows into the engine bay as seen below.

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I made panels and welded them in but the trouble is the rear shelf is just too thin with pin holes all over the place so I decided if I was going to the trouble of cutting all the rust out the rear shelf has to go and make a new one. I waited till the car was back on the wheels for the simple reason is that I could finally cut all the bracing out so I didn't have a climbing frame to contend with.

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I'll grab some photos of the finished shelf over the weekend but the old one got cut out including the angle brace underneath and a new one of those was made as well. I'll leave you with a photo of the engine bay being mocked up.

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Post by colimp66 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:07 am

Matt,
You have continued to make great repair panels on your Imp and your doing a sterling job on the restoration.
Nice one, keep the good work going.

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Post by MattorMatty » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:47 pm

Only 4 months late but progress is still being made.
Firstly the rear shelf, my bead roller isn't big enough to make the new shelf in the same way as the original so ran the beads horizontally instead. And I even remembered to make and weld on the clutch hose bracket.

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Whilst I had the engine in mocking up a few parts I made a exhaust heat shield so out came the bead roller again.

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Re: Clive - Singer Chamois Sport

Post by bks974c » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:52 pm

Love the heat shield looks very nice, well done

Scott
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