68 stiletto Restoration

Show off and tells us about your car, finished or a work in progress

Moderator: Keith 'Supaimpy' Laming

tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:39 pm

Hi Peter did notice that but did you notice the price would have liked to go that way but near £200 is too much for me but it's these arkward bits I tend to be good at ,?? now I've cut it out lam looking forward to fixing it lve missed the welding,got fed up blocking bodywork
Gary
User avatar
yoeddynz
Posts: 336
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:10 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: 1965 Hillman Imp with a Datsun A12 powerhouse.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by yoeddynz » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:19 am

I've just done a weldathon on the best bonnet I had here. I too looked at the prices of repair panels and, apart from the fact they are in Blighty and not here in NZ they are just too spendy for me. Its more satisfying to just have a crack at reshaping it all from scratch. A bit of filler, stand back a couple of metres and no one will know...... :-)
[https://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/28896-was-yoeddynzs-1968-viva-mazda-v6-new-owner-welcome-guzzi-rat/
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:40 am

yoeddynz wrote: A bit of filler, stand back a couple of metres and no one will know...... :-)
Haha they will now youve told everyone, they will be looking more closely :lol:
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:35 pm

Got another bonnet yesterday had a good look today, first let me state I have nothing bad to say about the seller he said it was a spare and had repair on the front he's not used it and I said I would strip all the front edge to see how it was ,so I did today the overall bonnet is a lot better condition than the other but still doesn't fit very well worst bit is os front corner it just been welded wrong . I will just have to fix it myself I may use parts of the other one to repair and make it fit better,one good thing it's shorter than the other one now I've got the filler off lol. :-)
Attachments
IMG_20181101_153754417.jpg
IMG_20181101_153828550.jpg
IMG_20181101_153732036.jpg
IMG_20181101_153745159.jpg
IMG_20181101_153724141.jpg
Last edited by tiker on Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Gary
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:45 pm

It will be no problem for you to fix that, its just time again 8)
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
User avatar
yoeddynz
Posts: 336
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:10 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: 1965 Hillman Imp with a Datsun A12 powerhouse.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by yoeddynz » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:33 pm

Image

Sorted!
[https://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/28896-was-yoeddynzs-1968-viva-mazda-v6-new-owner-welcome-guzzi-rat/
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by 617sqn » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:52 am

Oh dear :lol:

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:13 pm

Hi Andy is that o dear ment for the bonnet are for the filler!!
I've already cracked out the welder thought I'd finished with it :-)
Gary
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by 617sqn » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:33 pm

I thought for a horrible moment there that you were going to build the bonnet front with filler :? :lol:

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
User avatar
Bobbycham
Posts: 425
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:56 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Singer Chamois
Location: Devizes

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by Bobbycham » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:40 pm

Maybe it's a case of cutting the tin and use that to repair boot lid , discarding tins contents first.

Bob Imp005
I am the most responsible person around, if anything goes wrong ,"l am responsible"
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:54 pm

The full profile on the front edge is way out will make new edge and extend the front down to match might do both bonnets at same time and sell one on
Gary
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:20 pm

Hi just acquired a new part ,shot blasted it today, its been bashed in as you can see looks deliberately done ,is this for clearance ? I can sort it that's not a problem but if it's done to get it in easily I'll leave it
Regards Gary
Attachments
IMG_20190301_181408247.jpg
Gary
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by The Nun » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:47 pm

It's been done so it fits right down on the carb elbows, it won't do that if the carbs dash pots have been fitted in the wrong orientation, there's a lug in the dash pot that fouls that area on the filter, if the dash pots have been fitted in the correct position the filter fits perfectly without the need to do anything to the filter. This kind of thing happens when folk don't know what they are doing and ought to leave things alone I'm afraid.
If the filter housing doesnt fit right down onto its elbows it will rattle against the underside of the parcel shelf when the engine moves on it mountings.
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:25 pm

Thanks for the explanation Peter, I'll make it look pretty again :-)
Gary
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by 617sqn » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:04 am

You would think that the guy who was fitting it might have noticed that the dash pot covers were fouling on the filter base.... "I know. Instead of undoing 8 screws and repositioning the tops, I'll nip down the shed and give this filter base a damned good hiding !" :shock:

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:33 pm

You know what state the stiletto was in , nothing surprises me anymore lol
Gary
User avatar
colin rooney
Posts: 1465
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:14 pm
Club Member: Yes
Location: epsom

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by colin rooney » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:12 pm

Gary i just caught up on this build after you pointed me to it , mate you have done some nice work i cant believe that the bloke you bought it from had bodged it so much he seemed to think he had done a good job on it when i picked it up to deliver to you , glad you have saved it

col
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:37 pm

Thanks for saying that Colin it's my first imp restoration bit to go yet but hope to do the old girl justice I've called it Patch for obvious reasons :-)
Gary
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:28 pm

Just been to pick up a rust free bonnet ! Surface rust but no rot on the front edge fits not too bad neither £90 think it's a good buy
BUT the guys farther has died leaving him a large garage full of cars and parts he used to run imps years ago then got in to escorts . he's still sorting through all the parts but there's a few cars
E type , lotus Elan mk1escort,MK2, sunbeam rapier X2 including 1st production model?
And that's all I could see upstairs is full of parts
He will let me know if he finds any more imp stuff
Regards Gary
Gary
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by 617sqn » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:32 pm

Ooo ! Yes ! We might want to buy some 8)

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by The Nun » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:58 pm

Just fixed my bonnet using Express inner and outer front repair sections for 400 quid.
009.jpg
023.jpg
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
bks974c
Posts: 2637
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:26 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: all the above
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by bks974c » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Bonnet looks very good, Peter.

Scott
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by The Nun » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:52 pm

Not easy to do, the sections dont just fit straight on, and had to be reworked considerably to get them to fit how they supposed to, the basic pressings were accurate to the originals but the curvatures width and vertically were a long way out initially, around 2 weeks work to get them fitted correctly.
Express have been informed and given photos as to where they aren't right so hopefully should anyone else buy them they will be corrected.
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by 617sqn » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:01 pm

Hopefully, Peter.

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by The Nun » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:50 am

617sqn wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:01 pm
Hopefully, Peter.

Andy G
Yee of little faith, they will Andy, it will be discussed at their weekly production meeting so I was told :wink:
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
User avatar
617sqn
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Imp 1972
Location: Sussex, England.

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by 617sqn » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:28 pm

Well, that's good to hear. My cynicism comes from all of the times I've been promised action or a call back and it's never happened.....

Shall I hold my breath then ? :lol:

Andy G
Member No. 7500, and Stan's best mate.
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:19 pm

That looks a really good repair Peter the new bonnet I've got a bit similar to the others not a bad fit hanging over at one side but front looks really good few dents need sorting will probably have a go at reworking the overhanging edge
But not an easy thing to do Iam thinking
Regards Gary
Did yours need any work at the sides ? I thought it may be the wing but all measurements from one side to the other seem ok ?
Gary
bks974c
Posts: 2637
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:26 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: all the above
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by bks974c » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:02 pm

My bonnet repair
IMG_20190625_181239.jpg
Gary

Fit th bonnet hinges and see how it lines up, can have a major change on how it aligns.

My bonnet had been tweeked at at the factory, the rear corner showed signs of a sharp thump as witnessed by the crease in the rear edge.

Scott
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:57 pm

That looks a very neat repair I'll be happy if mine ends up like that
I would like to learn some hammer and dolly skills but where do you go to learn these now Iam a bit out of my depth at the moment
Regards Gary
Gary
bks974c
Posts: 2637
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:26 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: all the above
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by bks974c » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:11 pm

Gary

Don't think there was much subtly in the adjustment I imagine a block of wood and lump hammer to bring the edge in.

I used the spot welder on the bonnet edge once the inner had been removed to carry out repairs to it as wanted to avoid any chance of distoriting the bonnet.
Easily done with such a large flat panel.

A light skim of filler and the repairs will blend seamlessly.
IMG_20190621_143859.jpg
IMG_20190615_165443.jpg
IMG_20190615_165439.jpg
Scott
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:48 pm

Is that derust fluid in the wheelie bin or is it paint stripper.
What a good idea best use of a wheelie bin I've seen for a while
Gary
bks974c
Posts: 2637
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:26 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: all the above
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by bks974c » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:08 pm

Simply citric acid, the stuff that gives sweets their sharpness etc
IMG_20190622_091335.jpg
Works quicker when heated hence the immersion element.

Scott
tiker
Posts: 933
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:58 am
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: stiletto restoration
Location: west yorks

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by tiker » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm

Very useful to know
Gary
imporium
Posts: 558
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:28 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Hillman Husky Singer Chamois Commer Imp Van
Location: Somerset
Contact:

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by imporium » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:08 am

Hi All, I have a couple of NOS Express bonnet front edge repair panels, for underneath areas if needed £120 ......
photos on my website.... www.malcolmanderson.co.uk Malcolm.... Imp006 Imp009 Husky003 Van001
" Keeping the Imp Alive & Kicking & Imp Club Parts support with discounted Parts Supply"
http://www.malcolmanderson.co.uk
The Nun
Posts: 7450
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:02 pm
Club Member: Yes
Car Model: Imp x 2
Location: South

Re: 68 stiletto Restoration

Post by The Nun » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:41 am

tiker wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:19 pm
That looks a really good repair Peter the new bonnet I've got a bit similar to the others not a bad fit hanging over at one side but front looks really good few dents need sorting will probably have a go at reworking the overhanging edge
But not an easy thing to do Iam thinking
Regards Gary
Did yours need any work at the sides ? I thought it may be the wing but all measurements from one side to the other seem ok ?
The original bonnet was a very good fit and one reason I wanted to save it rather than look for another better one that might not have fitted so well, it didn't need any repairs to the sides or rear edge just the front edge, I too did most of the repair like Scott using a continuous spot welder so there's little risk of distortion, very easy on a big flat panel like the bonnet, of course the bonnet had numerous dints in it too as most imp bonnets do where folk have shut it with something sticking up in the boot. These had to be carefully knocked/press out as well, it's come out good considering all the work needed, but still I wasn't prepared to fit a fibreglass one in its place whatever, things would have to be pretty desperate to do that.
Peter Nunn...ey im member 00033
Post Reply