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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:09 am

That's a bl***y good idea John I will do that today :-)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:21 pm

Got back to it today finished brake and clutch lines through tunnel used stainless steel p clips and as screws put rear cross member back on bought 10 3/8 unf grade s but found I was 4 short , I am sure I read somewhere there were only 10 ? :-) my own fault for not counting them
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by 617sqn » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:20 pm

Just wondering, is that the extra ones fitted to Sport spec cars that you're missing?

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:46 pm

Early cars and later cars have a different amount of securing bolts. Cost cutting again.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:44 pm

The cars a 301 if that makes a difference?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:58 pm

Yours is early it's got 14
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:05 am

Made a mistake can any of you more experienced impers spot it ? I'll have to alter it as it may come back to bite me later
Give you a clue it's at the front , school boy error
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by bks974c » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:11 am

Union under suspension mounting bracket ?

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:16 am

Spot on Scott, you can tell you've built before lol regards Gary
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:07 pm

Hi did some welding for a guy down the road today heard I had a welder offered payment but I refused then he comes out of the garage with this say it's been there for 30 years would I like it
Can I use it on the imp I've always static timed older cars before and there doesn't seem to be any timing marks on the engine or the pulley?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:35 pm

Yes you can and there's a timing marker on the engine which points to a TDC notch in the edge of the crank pulley and you go from there.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:24 am

That's a nice gift. :)

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:34 pm

Well the time has finally run out ,as many of you know I am renting the garage and for a long time was in fear of being turfed out with nowhere to take the car. The garage is up for sale and I have had an offer accepted so it looks like iam stopping for a while and there is room for more !!
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Sat May 12, 2018 1:52 pm

I hope you find somewhere suitable to continue your superb work, Gary. Good luck. :wink:

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:50 pm

Well! This stiletto is turning out to be a very expensive project I completed on the sale of the garage today so I now have 400ft of imp space to work in .first job will be beefing up security then back too it :-)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:03 pm

tiker wrote:Well! This stiletto is turning out to be a very expensive project I completed on the sale of the garage today so I now have 400ft of imp space to work in .first job will be beefing up security then back too it :-)
Thats enough for 34 IMPs end to end, so you can have loads of projects lined up now, it could look like Linwood 8)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by John Simister » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm

Especially a track like the one in the photograph.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:17 pm

Started blocking the outside of the car last week
Thought I'd start at the rear up to the doors first and do what I could on the spit just to make it easier ,NS panel is imp club the swage line had lowered a bit from welding, if you have ever done a rear panel on an imp you will know that if you raise it in one part you loose the line so I used masking tape as a guide to fill up to still lots to do but shape is generally ok
NS was the worst for welding as it's made up of 3 sections as nothing else was available at the time ,at first I lost the line and got in a bit of a mess but after a few goes taping up the line it's ok now , I actually made it worse by putting to much over the welds to start with it didn't need anywhere as much as I thought it would. I saw the masking tape used on YouTube it really makes it easier as Im no expert, the form on the arch is different on each side I'll have to square one up a bit and soften the other one then they should match
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:09 pm

Hi I've epoxy primed the roof
3 coats and have keyed it with 80 grit .
Now it is waterproof is there any point in painting it a colour if the vinyl roof is going on top ?
Suggestions please
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by colimp66 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:30 pm

Looking good Gary,
Personally I would put some top coat on it to further build the thickness up and waterproof it , Can't do it any harm but it is a bit more work for you although it is all taped up which saves time.

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:27 pm

Got a bit of time at last ,took John and cols advice and put some colour on these roof to help seal it before the vinyl goes on.
Still lots to do regards Gary
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by colimp66 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:33 pm

Looks nice that Gary, be a shame to hide it now under the vinyl . :wink:

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:31 pm

Hi not got much done this year ,a shame considering the great weather we've had managed to get most of the rear wings flated but with the weather turning now I've epoxy primed them just to seal will finish them next year now
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by bks974c » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:35 pm

Looks nice and straight - good Job :D

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:24 am

Thanks Scott it's still a bit rough problem was the arch profile, imp club wing one side and repair section other and the profile as you would expect was different one side had more curve and smaller lip and opposite on the other so had to put bit more curve on one and more lip on the other , taken some time but not far off now
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by John Simister » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:48 pm

I feel for you with the curve and lip trouble on the wheelarches. It took ages to get the left side of mine to match the (original, miraculously) right side, and it's still not absolutely right. But it will have to do, because I'm not going through that again. In my case, it was endless visits to the bodyshop. In your case, you've done it yourself because, unlike me, you have the skill to do it.

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:18 am

Hi could one of you guys take a dimension from your imp so I can check mine the one I need is from the back of the scuttle to the edge of the front panel in the middle,mine measures 30 1/4" is this correct ? and the bonnet measurement is 30 3/4" is this correct?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:38 am

The bonnet dimension on mine measures 30 5/8"

Then on the centreline of the car the dimension from the front edge of the scuttle to the edge of the front panel is 30 3/8"

Thus the bonnet overhangs the front edge by around 3/8" if theres an 1/8" panel gap between the scuttle and bonnet rear edge.

3/8" to 1/2" overhang sounds about right when you consider build tolerences.

Fit the bonnet and then put on a seal and as long as the seal sits onto the top of the front panel to seal its ok.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:13 am

Yours seems a better size , I bet they just picked the best fit on the production line ,I've probably got the longer bonnet with the smaller distance to front panel Iam going to put all the hardware on and see how it fits if not may have to look for another bonnet? I've got a new seal from club spares ready for the trial fit
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:20 am

Maybe you could jack the front panel out a little to fit the bonnet better, it might have been pushed back in a past nudge, maybe?

The new seals arent to the original spec you realise, they do the job but not correct profile.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:01 am

Hi Peter the front panel has no sign of a nudge , the bonnet overhangs the front corners too I may be able to move the centre but think I would have to drill spot welding at the top of the wing to move the corner ?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:44 pm

My bonnet overhangs the corners but only by 1/8" at most then once around the corner down the side its level with the wing top.

This where the advantage is of fitting new panels is they can be adjusted so everything is perfect before they are fixed, where the factory fit isn't quite always, but then perfection isn't originality so it depends what you're trying to achieve.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:39 pm

I know what you mean Peter I want a reasonable fit but I don't want to over restore it.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Original never hit or changed front panel and an original steel bonnet never repaired or rusty looks like this , non original seal though
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:05 am

Hi got back to the bonnet today stripped the paint off under the bonnet and found a few old repairs that I had to strip back as the seal would not go on part of it due to the under edge not being flat, not surprising for a 50 year old bonnet . This may account for the bonnet being a bit too long once the front edge was removed you can move the front edge in about 3/8" quite easily without deforming the curve ,so should be able to get a better fit when I repair the front
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:08 pm

Express make that inner front section for the bonnet now as well as the outer skin for the front edge too, Im fitting the inner section to a bonnet, saves a bit of time cutting and shutting bits.
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