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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:46 pm

Painted underneath today. I found when doing the epoxy that due to all the seams and flanges you can't get the gun in everywhere so did all the arkward bits by brush including the basecoat and lacquer
Again the colour is a lot brighter than in the photo
Now colour edited about right
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by MattorMatty » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:08 pm

Well done Gary! The car is looking great! :)

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:50 am

At least you know youve just turned a corner once the colour starts going on, and the MOT man wont need to go to Spec Savers to see what hes doing. 8)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:35 am

The car looks really good, Gary. I love the colour too! 8) :wink:

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:17 pm

Well I won't loose it when I park it that's for sure :-)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:46 am

Hi the rear engine cross member does it have a gasket in or is it a guess the nice slide fit when painted ?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:16 am

There's no gasket for the rear crossmember, Gary. As you say, it's a case of scratch the paint! :( If you refit it with care, it's not too bad, actually.

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by John Simister » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:13 pm

Copaslip or similar is your friend. Put into the threads it makes the bolts easier to undo in the future, smeared over the ends of the crossmember it helps it to slide/spring into the body and inbhibits any rust that might form if/when the paint chips on the way in. Excess is wiped off once the crossmember is bolted in, and only if you're unlucky will any chips be visible.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:06 pm

Ive found the rear wings can spring inwards or outwards when the rear panel is removed depending I suppose on the stresses created on the panels and shell as its being welded together or if the cars had a nudge maybe at some time in the past. I put some masking tape in the edges to protect the paint as the panel is pushed into place and remove it once the panels in, my wings happen to close up slightly on this one, then once in place squirt waxoyl into the joint and also used stainless setscrews to retain it rather the the normal steel ones, if they seize in, which they hadnt ought to if you assemble with coppaslip say, they are a right job to get out otherwise if rusted as access to the heads is very restricted, another not very good design, if it was designed that is.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:28 am

Well what a mess
The old cross member with all the rot that I welded up as part of the spit was a lovely fit but the new one that is perfect is a terribly fit the os which is original is the worst .
Don't know what year the good one is but they must have re tooled at some point .
Will probably have to elongate the bottom holes as it needs to swing back at the bottom edge to bring it in line with the lower corner panel strange the old one spot on but unfortunately beyond repair
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:39 am

Yes I can imaging you having a bit of a jiggle to get it in properly 8)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by impmann » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:06 am

John Ross wrote:Gary

Same here, I have the original which fits great, the one off a 64 which also fits great but it belongs to the 64 so I cannot nick it :-(

One I picked up along the way which is mint, I need to lever it in and the stud at one side wont fit, suspect later car

The one I picked up off the P plate car, also not a great fit

I wonder if they did something when they changed to the "alternate steel" we hear about.

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The "Alternate Steel" myth, is just that... a myth. Its not thicker or thinner depending on production date, or from a different source. The big difference on the later cars was the paint thickness (or lack of it) and the spot welds (my car had 6 spot welds from the facory on the bottom of the drivers side sill for example) and that was a major factor in the rust issues later cars sometimes have.

What is different on the later cars is that the tooling will have done at least 250,000-350,000 more stampings than your earlier pressings. Its a matter of record that the press tools at Linwood were on their last knockings when then last cars were built. However, because *all* the tooling was worn, it fitted together. The rear transom on my Imp (the last Imp Basic ever built) fits my car fine but probably wouldn't fit Skye (1964) quite so well.

TBH, though, levering them in is/can be normal. There is a lot of spring in those rear wings and as John Simister says above Coppaslip is your friend here.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:29 am

It's all the fun of owning an imp I suppose
Got to take the good with the bad
It will fit soon :-) big hammer coming out
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:52 am

Also many replacement panels a car might have had over the years were parts tried on the line that needed work so were rejected at assembly, mainly dented or marked and not quite perfect, so sold as aftermarket, so when you ordered a replacement part what you got could well have been one of those that needed work to fit?
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by cov_climax » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:18 am

Put a piece of thick plastic, like a wide filler spreader, in the joint to act as a slide during fitting, it will act as a guide and protect the paint from damage, then pull it out once fitted.

Another way is to gently spread the wings with length of timber and a wedge to gain clearance if needed.

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:27 am

Thanks for all the sound advice now that I have taken all the high spots off it's not too bad but still needs work on the lower bolt fixings just to allow to swing back slightly and a washer on the end of the chassis leg to pack it out a bit will hopefully get that done today also the engine lid fouling in a few places but couldn't get it locking correctly till I had cut out for the new locking handles good job Chris d. mentioned they are different size never even noticed
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:00 am

Could you also tell me the type of brake pipe fittings 3/8" or 7/16" ? Thanks, I think fuel pipe is 1/4" ,brake pipe 3/16 "? and type of pipe clip used
On the club parts list it mentions an3,an4, fitting I don't know what that means
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:07 am

tiker wrote:Thanks for all the sound advice now that I have taken all the high spots off it's not too bad but still needs work on the lower bolt fixings just to allow to swing back slightly and a washer on the end of the chassis leg to pack it out a bit will hopefully get that done today also the engine lid fouling in a few places but couldn't get it locking correctly till I had cut out for the new locking handles good job Chris d. mentioned they are different size never even noticed
The fit of the engine lid needs to be tried once the rear panel is in and fully bolted up with all fixings tight, the rear wings will alter as its all secured changing the lid to wing gaps, my lid to wing gap isnt even until the rear panel it in and fully secured then its right so dont go adjusting the lid until youve sorted the rear panel.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:15 pm

Thanks Peter and John took 1/2 day off work today to try and get some progress got cross member in not great as when I tried to lock the lid it was sloppy so on investigation had to get welder out again the slot I realised should be tapered and the locking clamp had deep groove in it worn from opening the lid.once both were welded it clamped well with no play
IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR THE ENGINE!!:-)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:28 pm

The engine lid needed a lot of hammer and dolly work to all the flanges to get in line and not binding on body.
The gaps are ok but the rear one near the window is bigger than the sides but can't move it back further as the rear wing end points already stand proud of the lid may need,I'll have to have a think on that one
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by The Nun » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:21 pm

The gap across the hinge line is wider it has to be otherwise the lid fouls on the edge when it's fully opened up as it goes back beyond vertical on its stay, looks OK as you have it to me.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by John Simister » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:43 pm

I agree with Peter. Looks fine.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:15 pm

The gaps look really good, Gary. :)

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:52 pm

Thanks guy's it's a really good feeling when you start putting things back on :-)
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:21 pm

Hi epoxy primed over some of the welding, then an hour later put first layer of fiberglass filler on ,will be working rear area up to doors first, so it's not too overwhelming. The lighting in the garage is better now the floor is white have also resized photos so resolution will not be as good but it saves space
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:18 pm

Hi bean striping engine lid there was a lot of paint on but it's nearly done now even though I shot blasted what I could it was still hard going
Will epoxy to seal it first it has a few imperfections some from the factory
I can tell from the paint layers but overall it in very good shape
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by ImpManiac » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:03 am

Yes. That looks like a good engine cover. :)

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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:57 pm

Put a bit of heat in the garage today and managed to get some epoxy on
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:37 am

I have a large box of bits that came with the car could anyone Tel me where this goes
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by John Simister » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:44 am

Gearchange control shaft/flexible coupling dirt deflector. The bolts for the rear control shaft mounting go through this first. The upswept part faces forwards from memory.
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Re: 68 stiletto Restoration (SRC 527F )

Post by tiker » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:56 am

Thanks John
It's a pity I didn't get the gear assembly too!!
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