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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:15 am

This one is for Noddy, it may put a smile on his face?

I also hve the inlet manifold, it will require some adaption as it fits the Jaguar XJ6 4.2 ltr engine. :D
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Post by African Imp » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:39 pm

The idea that The Nun had was to re route the choke cable and allow it to take a gentle curve to its end terminal.

This far so good :D

I still need to do the end connection, can I use a mirror and see what I am doing, if not that Stromeberg has to be removed again.

The top cable is the one for the throttle.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:13 am

That new control cable route has done the trick ( thanks for the idea Peter )

I tried various routes to see what gave the softer curve, this one worked out the best, as it goes over the clutch slave cylinder pipe it is kept from dropping down by the same pipe.

The cable is the cars original one and was fitted to the choke on the Solex that the car was shipped to Mozambique with.

Once again I had to remove the forward Stromberg to make the cable connection, as it is impossible to feed the pull cable into the tiny locating hole when its unseen, I tried a mirror, that was just confusion, with the mirror ( Imp rear view ) I could see where I needed to thread the cable but the hole was just out of position.

The cable now pulls well and its as good as it needs to be.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:25 am

That's all the jobs done then now you're not going to do the head lights, you can sit back and relax or go for a drive :D
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Post by African Imp » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:31 am

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The Nun wrote:That's all the jobs done then now you're not going to do the head lights, you can sit back and relax or go for a drive :D
There is one main one left to do, fit the restored pedal box ( in Impressions ) the 0.70" brake master cylinder will then compliment Colin Valentines Ford Fiesta front disc brakes, I have the standard 0.625" master cylinder right now.

There is very little petrol in the fuel tank, should I start tomorrow, I hope the job gets done faster that the choke cable?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:35 am

Stromberg or SU carburetors?

We make our own choice I suppose, to me the Strombergs are as much a part of the Imp Sport as its other sport engine parts.

The Imp Californian I have now let me down the once with a carburetor flooding issue, I was close to home in the local village and a friend towed me home, the car was running by then and I drove it into the garage.

That set of Strombergs were the later issue and without the hex head jet adjusters that I prefer and the type on the car now.

There was another carburetor flooding let down, this time in another car and a very long way from home, at least 100kms?

The reason we were there was my daughters wedding, the 1967 Singer Chamois was there as the Flower Girls car, our 1966 Jaguar 3.8 S type was there as the bridal car, it was a great event and both cars worked well and as they should.

We stayed on the farm that evening, in the morning we loaded both cars up with ourselves and some of the gifts, then headed for home.

The farm had dirt tracks, no paved roads, the dirt had become a wash board shape and the clay the dirt was made of was baked hard by the sun.

Leaving the farm tracks and onto the National roads I noticed that the Jaguar that I was driving was giving trouble with over supply of fuel, two tanks and two SU electric pumps fed the SU carbs, I stopped an saw that petrol was leaking from the carbs overflow pipes when the ignition was on.

What had happened was one float had stuck or the needle in the carb had?

The chance to work on the car and early morning on the side of the road and in the morning sun was not to my liking, I decided to drive the car home and as long as my foot was on the throttle the leak would stop as the petrol was being used.

The Jaguar then refused to start, we were now in a real pickle, the Jaguar had two family guests and myself in it, in a dry state the Jaguar weighs about 1650 kgs? so we were well over that weight.

There was one option to try first, tow the Jaguar with the Singer Chamois and get the car to start that way.

The idea worked and we arrived home safely.

The Imps weigh about 715 kgs, so our Singer Chamois was pulling twice its weight!

The Strombergs on my 1967 Imp Californian are the same carbs and from the Singer.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by 617sqn » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:45 am

Over here, towing that heavier car would be frowned at :o. How did the clutch in the Imp react ?

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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:51 am

617sqn wrote:Over here, towing that heavier car would be frowned at :o. How did the clutch in the Imp react ?

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No issues with the 6.25" sized clutch!

The tow was just a short distance until the Jaguars engine fired and then the tow was disconnected.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by 617sqn » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:19 am

Ah. I had visions of towing a jag and all occupants some distance to the venue. Just a bump-start then, really ?

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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:50 am

617sqn wrote:Ah. I had visions of towing a jag and all occupants some distance to the venue. Just a bump-start then, really ?

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Yes and it was Jean my wife who was driving the Singer, mind you that was her daily driver for thirteen years, so she was well used to the car.

We had just left the venue.

The bottom line for me was and is that the Strombergs on that car did not fail on the washboard surface farm road and gave more than enough power to move what was possibly an 1800 kg load and from a dead stop load :D
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:08 am

It doesnt take all that much once its moving on a flat surface to keep in moving, hence why these strong men can pull a 40 ton truck with their teeth, as long as they have used their Fixodent. :shock:
You never seen them pulling it up a hill, and I doubt the IMP clutch would last long trying to do the same?
When they test new cars they do an incline test to see what it will start on and its normally around 1 in 4 maximum before the clutch wont move even just the car.
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:24 pm

The Nun wrote: When they test new cars they do an incline test to see what it will start on and its normally around 1 in 4 maximum before the clutch wont move even just the car.
Vusky did a hill start on Hardknott pass in the lakes , that part was 1 in 3.5 :o
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Post by The Nun » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:58 pm

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
The Nun wrote: When they test new cars they do an incline test to see what it will start on and its normally around 1 in 4 maximum before the clutch wont move even just the car.
Vusky did a hill start on Hardknott pass in the lakes , that part was 1 in 3.5 :o
It must have had a good clutch in it then, but also yours runs on SUs, a strommy would have flooded at that :lol:
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The Nun wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote: It must have had a good clutch in it then, but also yours runs on SUs, a strommy would have flooded at that :lol:
Clutch was quite new at the time - seriously though would Stoms actually flood on a 1 in 3 1/2 hill , SUs were fine , my nerves however were not as i was running some well old comp doughnuts at the time
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Post by African Imp » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:07 am

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
The Nun wrote: When they test new cars they do an incline test to see what it will start on and its normally around 1 in 4 maximum before the clutch wont move even just the car.
Vusky did a hill start on Hardknott pass in the lakes , that part was 1 in 3.5 :o
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Post by African Imp » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:47 am

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
The Nun wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote: It must have had a good clutch in it then, but also yours runs on SUs, a strommy would have flooded at that :lol:
Clutch was quite new at the time - seriously though would Stoms actually flood on a 1 in 3 1/2 hill , SUs were fine , my nerves however were not as i was running some well old comp doughnuts at the time
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Noddy, not a road for a poor driver?



As if the drop offs do not get you the dry stone walls will.

It is a great road for an Imp though, I suspect I have been over that road but in my dads car and before I got my first Imp? Imp011
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Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
The Nun wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote: It must have had a good clutch in it then, but also yours runs on SUs, a strommy would have flooded at that :lol:
Clutch was quite new at the time - seriously though would Stoms actually flood on a 1 in 3 1/2 hill , SUs were fine , my nerves however were not as i was running some well old comp doughnuts at the time
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Noddy, did you take the UP trip?

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African Imp wrote: Noddy, did you take the UP trip?

https://www.visitcumbria.com/wc/hardknott-pass/ Husky003
Yep , sure did go up it , first bend is 1 in 3, straights are 1 in 3 to 1 in 4 , no problem getting up , brakes got a tad warm on ther way down the other side though as its almost as steep
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African Imp wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote: Why had you stopped was it traffic in front of you? Imp027
Someone stalled in front of me - scary moment :shock:
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Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
African Imp wrote:
Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote: Why had you stopped was it traffic in front of you? Imp027
Someone stalled in front of me - scary moment :shock:
Just looking at that hill is scary, finding someone trying to restart in front of you would double the fright?

Question, did you actually intend to tackle that hill or did you just arrive by accident?

Talking of accident, one report mentions that it is one of Britains most dangerous roads, you will agree?
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Post by African Imp » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:31 am

Before the re route of the original choke cable and I have to admit to probably to the route that it should have been in the first place, I really only wanted to re paint the AC Sport air filter box.
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Post by The Nun » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:40 am

The filter box and oil filler cap and flame trap were painted foam white/grey by the factory though?
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The Nun wrote:The filter box and oil filler cap and flame trap were painted foam white/grey by the factory though?
Thanks!

The flame trap I have seen in a pale grey, same as Imp wheel rims?

Bob Allan supplied it new, it was black then?

Not sure about the filler cap, this one has no paint on at all as I had it electro plated :D
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Post by 617sqn » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:55 am

All the sport filter boxes that have passed through my hands have been black :?

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Post by African Imp » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:02 am

I think the restored red Sunbeam Stiletto that Richard Sozanski did has the air box and oil filler cap in black?

I can do a black oil cap today as I have one ready painted :)
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African Imp wrote:
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Question, did you actually intend to tackle that hill or did you just arrive by accident?

Talking of accident, one report mentions that it is one of Britains most dangerous roads, you will agree?
Deliberately went to tackle it , yes its a very scary and very dangerous , shear drops on many points , single track and 1 in 3 steep in places , meeting someone coming the other way needs a bit of planning by both drivers as you cant meet on any bends , theres passing places on the straight bits , some with shear drops , its the same going down the other side .
It really is monumentally scary to drive. :o
Even getting to it is bad enough as theres a pass before you get to it called Wrynose pass , thats only 1 in 4 . By the way Hardknott is the steepest road in the UK :o
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Post by 617sqn » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:32 pm

I'll "pass" then Noddy. :wink:

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617sqn wrote:All the sport filter boxes that have passed through my hands have been black :?

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That will be that factory primer then Andy like they put on new panels 8)
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And the next job is?
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I've been over that pass was not prepared for it I thought my car was actually going to slide away coming down ,never been back drove long way round on way back very scary
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Post by tiker » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:55 am

Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
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Post by African Imp » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:42 am

tiker wrote:Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
Were you in an Imp?

I would think the small size and turning circle of the Hillman Imp would suit such a hill? Imp027
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No modern still unnerving long before I got the Stiletto
I suspect your asking about the pass
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tiker wrote:Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
Were you in an Imp?

I would think the small size and turning circle of the Hillman Imp would suit such a hill? Imp027
Its a great car for said hill but still bloomin scary :roll:
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tiker wrote:Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
Mine are tapered, I'm not aware they were ever straight, unless they've been repaired, often the ends are either cut down or damaged so have to be remade.
I always thought it strange though the hole in the end of the trumpet is only the diameter of one carb, you'd have thought it would be larger, and it seen where folk have drilled out the lower housing to increase airflow to the filters and even where someone has fitted a double trumpet.
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tiker wrote:Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
Were you in an Imp?

I would think the small size and turning circle of the Hillman Imp would suit such a hill? Imp027
Its a great car for said hill but still bloomin scary :roll:

Sounds as if the Cumbria Imp Club group ever do the Imp National nearby you would not recomend the Hardknott Hill as the scenic route?
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Post by African Imp » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:30 pm

tiker wrote:Just noticed the air feed into your airbox looks straight the 2 I have are tapered did they change design at some point?
No mine is the standard taper type, what is happenning is that the Canon Gll camera and like most point and shoot cameras today works on a part wide angle lens vision unless you start to zoom in a little, then you would see the taper I think? Imp027
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[quote="African Imp"]I think the restored red Sunbeam Stiletto that Richard Sozanski did has the air box and oil filler cap in black?




Roy , way back then I purchased a couple of new oil filler caps and both were in black ( see pic) Ive still got the other as a spare
So it stayed in black and I sprayed the airbox in black too.
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Post by The Nun » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:14 pm

They were foam white/grey also, my Sport had that from new and I've a factory photo showing the same on a Sport.
I've seen them black and silver but in most cases they've been painted by the owners.
I noticed Richards part is labelled Talbot so maybe they standardised later to make it the same as the other models they were producing at that time?
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