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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:15 pm

The early Imp had a Lucas switch with just two poles, Item 161, was that a 1963 basic Imp?

Checking the various wiring diagrams I see that all of the switches were four pole, so this image was drawn incorrectly?

No, as the early Imps were wired as a positive earth, now I remember! Imp027
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:39 pm

That switch is for the early wiper motor I think? You have a later motor so maybe that's why you need a different switch for differing wiring arrangement for the park facility, Noddy will know for sure?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:45 pm

The Nun wrote:That switch is for the early wiper motor I think? You have a later motor so maybe that's why you need a different switch for differing wiring arrangement for the park facility, Noddy will know for sure?
None of the wiring diagams in Heynes manual show this switch?

Yes, I see in WSM 141 its the Imp Mk1,Chamois also, Mk2 deluxe, Imp Super Mk2, Chamois Mk2, Van and Husky, the cange looks to be at the Imp Sport and Chamois Sport?

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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:27 pm

Early cars only have the two terminal switch for the wipers , its the same switch as the heater fan , early wipers are switched via the earth not the live
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:31 am

Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:Early cars only have the two terminal switch for the wipers , its the same switch as the heater fan , early wipers are switched via the earth not the live
Dave, Thanks on that, even after fifty plus years with the Hillman Imp I am still learning about them! Imp027

Were all those early Imps Postitive Earth, I had a 1964 Mk1 sounds like I remember it was but that is like 54 years back!
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:52 am

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617sqn wrote:Wouldn't hurt to clean the commutator and brushes on your genny then.

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Thanks, would I just remove the back plate and draw the commutator out? WSM 141 should tell me this?
I had the battery on a low charge for a good twelve hours, a drive just now did not show the red light coming on.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:03 am

You need to get yourself a battery conditioner charger you can plug in and leave on all the time whilst the cars in the garage not being used, thats what I do, they are designed to keep the battery fully charged and also do a periodic partial drain and and recharge to keep the battery exercised. if you wire into the car a socket in a convenient position you can plug it in easily each time you return ?
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Post by African Imp » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:22 pm

A lot of the parts I have or have needed can now be found here https://www.facebook.com/groups/2032768506981532/ Imp027
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Post by African Imp » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:23 pm

The Nun wrote:You need to get yourself a battery conditioner charger you can plug in and leave on all the time whilst the cars in the garage not being used, thats what I do, they are designed to keep the battery fully charged and also do a periodic partial drain and and recharge to keep the battery exercised. if you wire into the car a socket in a convenient position you can plug it in easily each time you return ?
Yes, your right, the charger I use is a smart one but not what your talking about and uses spring clips on the battery poles, so it takes time to connect.

This company say they have sold four million chargers! https://smartercharger.com/
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:14 am

The restored speedo pod before it was refitted, the assembly had been sent away to Johannesburg for service to the hair spring inside the speedo.

Note the incorrect position of the wiper switch when in the off position, that was sorted out recently.

The odometer now reads 23,733.44 :)
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:25 am

I suppose it was just a matter of time before I took one of the new 304 grade stainless steel lifting eyes and polished it on the mop in my bench grinder.

I also softened the edges with a flapper wheel to smooth things out first.

Once polished the difference was worth the effort it took.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:48 pm

The upgrade of some of the parts on the car can continue, today I fitted a 304 grade stainless steel tyre strap hook.

With the hook made smaller than the original I was able to fit some heat shrink on the hook to stop paint damage on the slam panel.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by 617sqn » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:23 am

I'd buy one, but it might never arrive :?

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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:29 am

617sqn wrote:I'd buy one, but it might never arrive :?

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I think that with the registered mail I am now using orders are arriving, that it can still take more than a week is the truth but at least with the tracker number we can see where orders are ? Imp027
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:43 am

Yes so far everything tracked has got to me in about 4 working days
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Post by Richard Sozanski » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:49 am

I echo Peters comment
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Post by African Imp » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:03 pm

The Nun wrote:Yes so far everything tracked has got to me in about 4 working days
Heathrow has a clearing hub named Langley,its at Heathrow, the SAPO tracked the missing Item to Langley and as far as I remember they confirmed same/

Then they did not have it! Imp027
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by 617sqn » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:47 pm

Don't worry, Roy. I'll get back into them asap.

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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:21 am

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The door glass channels were fitted as new items, they were a bit stiff to start with but did ease up some with use.
I used some Fluid Film (lanolin) the difference was very noticable and instant, then things went back to where they were and the winding up or down was stiffer than I would want?

Using the Fluid Film where we live is not a great idea, the local beach is a half mile down the road and the regular gale force winds move sand whenever the wind is strong, so the sand will enter the door channel and damage the glass.

What about dry grapfite powder used in locks?

Having just tried some I can report that it has worked! Imp027
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:35 am

My own car is the test bed for parts I have been having re produced, today it was the engine cover lock hook.

The old hook was plated mild steel and looked a bit worn, the new one is made from 304 grade stainless steel and should stay looking new for good.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:20 am

After the runner seals have been fitted and glass has been in place for a while, if you get the correct ones, and not off e bay, then they do ease off enough not to have to bother with any lubricant I found?
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Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:30 am

The Nun wrote:After the runner seals have been fitted and glass has been in place for a while, if you get the correct ones, and not off e bay, then they do ease off enough not to have to bother with any lubricant I found?
Mine came from the 1971 Hillman Imp Deluxe that InfraZA had me rebuild, so second hand but new. They probably were sold locally by RPM or a similar company/

We have to accept what is here, Robs came in from Bob Allan I think? Imp027
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Post by The Nun » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:57 am

Youre right John and its there to keep the window up so it doesnt rattle and also to some extent work against you if someone tried to drag the window down from the outside using hand pressure, a weak spring would make that all easier to happen?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:06 am

John Ross wrote:Roy / Peter

When putting the doors back together I found a big difference in the spring strength in the window regulators while I picked which ones I wanted to use, the coiled tension should assist in winding up, if the spring is weak then I would suspect it no longer does its job to assist in putting up the window ??

The best reqgulators of them all though were a couple I removed from later MK 3 doors and then found out the previous owner must have had a dispute with the pins on the handles and just cut them off.

Two good regulators vandalised ! :shock:

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I have just checked and the drivers window goes down a fair bit nicer than going up, its ok though as the load on the winder handle is less than it was before the graphite lubricant :D
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Post by The Nun » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:14 am

For certain when they're in good condition you can wind the windows up and down far faster than any electric ones.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:46 pm

In the past few months I have been having various Imp car parts remade, one was the bonnet strike plate across the slam panel.

How to bend it was the issue, should a try and bend it in the vice or should I make a jig, I chose the latter route.

Using some White Ash as its hard, I shaped the profile out along one edge, then using various long bolts as the press former and my Record vice, I pressed the shape into the wood.

This worked and the metal remains scratch free.

The work is not complete as the bolt hole centers are too far apart, pressing the plate more will bring them closer together.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:28 am

My front slam panel lock plate shaping was heading the right way, it needed more shaping by having a press tool to force the 0.9mm 304 stainless steel deeper into the mould?

A small box channel at 1 1/2" wide would have done the job? I have no such channel so I assembled an adjustable tool from items most Impers have in their own garage.

The idea worked a treat but the centers of the two bolt holes are still 1/8" too far apart, if I cut the mould to be 0.9mm deeper that will close the holes up. Imp027
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Post by The Nun » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:33 am

Excellent Roy, what a good idea, makes it so quick and easy if youre doing a lot. 8)
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by oli » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:47 am

Does this small part ever actually rust though? I've never had to replace one, and all the cars I have broken still had good ones on.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 am

oli wrote:Does this small part ever actually rust though? I've never had to replace one, and all the cars I have broken still had good ones on.
Oli, they do not rust in South Africa?

As I have not seen one in the UK for a very long time I would have no idea what condition they may be in now?

What I am doing is cutting as much of the Hillman Imp flat plates parts as I can, then shaping some, this is the first one, the lower U shaped cross plate on the steering rack U bolts will be next.

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Post by The Nun » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:04 am

They dont rust away as such but they do tarnish very badly and get badly surface rusted, its position on the slam panel means it gets sprayed with salt in the winter as the wet gets under the seal and its an area that not cleaned often and ignored, they supposed to be cadmium plated and once tarnished look very scruffy in deed, you either replate it, paint it which never looks right, put up with it, or have have it looking good, its a personal choice I suppose?
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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:07 am

The jig process went to stage three today, or is it four?

I remade the metal side of the press tool, using two seat belt floor plates which were spare I have a neater and smaller tool now, also the plates are equal sizes which was not the case with the dynamo adjuster plates I had used before.

To ease the polishing process I power polished the plate prior to pressing it in the jig.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:10 am

With the softness of the ash hardwood and an application of Fluid Film (lanolin) as a lubricant, the polished 304 grade stainless steel plate folded into shape and with out any marks or scratches on it.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:57 am

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The way the bonnet on my car is very pleasing, just drop it and the catch works and that is it, I need the same kind of quality with the new stainless steel closing plate in place?

The masking tape was to prove where the original plated mild steel plate was fixed, I then placed the stainless steel plate in the same place.

The first picture shows that the bolt holes on the new plate line up well with the lock that is below the slam panel, there was no adjustment of the new plate required.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:21 pm

Tomorrow the 304 grade engine cover backing plate will be fitted, the spare one I used as the sample to get the sizes correct shows plenty of surface rust on both sides of the original mild steel plate.

I have a Record nunber 3 engineers vice, the jaws are 4" wide, which is the same width as the plate, you need to bend over a 1/8" strip on each side of the plate, make sure you bend the strips the right way as the lock hole is not center in the plate.

Look closely where the plate enters the jaws of the vice, I have a strip of masking tape there so that I can have the plate in the correct place.

I used a wide block of wood end grain on and a one pound hammer, do not hammer the plate with the hammer!
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This came out well, better than I expected I think?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:29 am

Someone in North America has just been asking about what coolant he should use in his Imps?

Back around 2013/14 and when I was building a road going 998cc engine for InfraZA, I spent a good while asking and reading up on the subject of coolant liquid.

I came up with two possibles, one was a product named Evens, which I think is not water based and has a boiling point that is so high that it makes any engine boil proof???

The cost to Evans coolant was as high scale wise as the temperature it can handle, so I looked for an alternative.

I asked a garage owner, Clive of Killarney Auto Services here in Cape Town, Clive was working from premises in a Shell garage but sourced for me a 5ltr pack of Caltex Extended Life Coolant.

This coolant can handle minus 40 degrees and has an 8 degree higher boiling point than water, plus it has a five year life and as many as 200,000 kilometers use.

Price wise it was R55 a litre, that is now R85 a liter, say 5.00 pounds? I used that in the engine of InfraZA and later on in my own 1967 Hilllman Imp Californian 875cc engine which is still running the original pistons and crank bearings :D
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:37 am

I think the general opinion of coolant that doesnt boil until a very high temperature is it could not be very good for your engine, its all very well if everything is healthy or new but, if say you had a faulty or inoperative gauge, or didnt happen to notice the gauge was rising too high in sufficient time you could get a situation where your engine could sieze up without any sign until it does? with normal coolant at least you can hear it boiling in the header tank or see it emitting steam and stop before it becomes terminal?
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