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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed May 31, 2017 7:35 am

Richards Champion spark plug cap has still not arrived but yesterday I received some Mintex high performance brake linings for the rear of the car.

Marked clearly with a value of 30 Pounds they came in duty and so vat free, which was a large saving for myself.
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Post by African Imp » Wed May 31, 2017 7:39 am

The theory behind these Mintex brake shoes is that they require very little warming up, so more brake power is available and quickly.

Mintex made the Imps original (January 1968) Sunbeam Stiletto M75 linings also, they worked really well I remember and I had a set of shoes replaced on factory warranty as I wore them out !

They were a pale green material, I remember looking at them and thinking the colour was a bit odd?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by 617sqn » Wed May 31, 2017 7:45 am

Oh yes, Peter. I forgot about the oil pressure gauge. Personally I've always shied away from those types : scared it would make a mess if a pipe blew a seal :lol:

Oli : haha, that really is daft. Common sense has obviously never really existed has it ?

Without doubt it would seem that old school brake linings were far better than those offered when asbestos was removed. I used to use Mintex M171 pads in my Rover Sd1 V8, and they were fabulous. Then when they were NLA, the new version were completely useless by comparison.

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Post by African Imp » Wed May 31, 2017 8:33 am

One part of the cars trim that may never be re fitted is that painted metal insert that covers the rear side window rubbers?
The pair off this car are in great condition, they were painted black anyway, so having black rubber now looks the same!
Unless of course someone finally remakes the required rubber section :D

Please note, that is not a scratch on the paint, it may be a reflection?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed May 31, 2017 8:37 am

617sqn wrote:Oh yes, Peter. I forgot about the oil pressure gauge. Personally I've always shied away from those types : scared it would make a mess if a pipe blew a seal :lol:

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It does Ive had one of the plastic ones snap because it had gone brittle, doesnt take many seconds to pump out a pint or two of oil, luckily I spotted it, it was the engine end and by chance and very unusually I had the cover open with the engine ticking over and saw a fine spray, must have only just gone at that moment. :?
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Post by African Imp » Wed May 31, 2017 9:07 am

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617sqn wrote:Oh yes, Peter. I forgot about the oil pressure gauge. Personally I've always shied away from those types : scared it would make a mess if a pipe blew a seal :lol:

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It does Ive had one of the plastic ones snap because it had gone brittle, doesnt take many seconds to pump out a pint or two of oil, luckily I spotted it, it was the engine end and by chance and very unusually I had the cover open with the engine ticking over and saw a fine spray, must have only just gone at that moment. :?
The pipe is a 3/16" size, we bought new ones from a Mrs Conradie who runs a farmers supply store in Swellendam,Western Cape, she also has a haberdashery store next door.

Rob, he of InfraZA and his 1971 blue Imp, found she had the stuff, so both his car and my car have new lines right through.

In my case I added some shrink tube on the end to support the connection, I used a heat gun to warm the nylon tube up, that worked very well.

The trace of green paint on the block is Rootes Car Co original, what did it mean?

Note, my 1967 Singer Chamois is still using the same tube that the car came with, I did cut the connection end to block and re do it though.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:51 am

Yesterday I blasted some brake parts clean, next will be to remove the old linings (still good) and bond the new Mintex linings to the shoes
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:53 am

The drums got similar attention, these look to be in great condition and the linings fit them, so not a lot of machine work will be required?
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:00 am

This rear brake shoe up grade was the idea of Colin Valentine, it was he who supplied the cars front disc kit.
Tests done by Colin and the Mintex guys proved that while the front discs were working well, the rear drums were not.

The fitting of a more suitable Mintex rear lining was the next option.
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Post by Richard Sozanski » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:55 am

Hi Roy ,Ive been emailing you to see if its arrived but wasnt getting any response from you .Ive also emailed you a video clip.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:05 am

Richard Sozanski wrote:Hi Roy ,Ive been emailing you to see if its arrived but wasnt getting any response from you .Ive also emailed you a video clip.
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Yes, I saw the video clip and respnded by asking you where you found it?

I also replied to your mail of yesterday, it seems we have a week link someplace? Imp027
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:49 am

Do you prefer bonded linings Roy? I went out of my way a bit to get some for the rear where the linings are riveted too? I heard where the lining can become detached especially on low usage cars when moisture can affect the adhesive?
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:00 am

The Nun wrote:Do you prefer bonded linings Roy? I went out of my way a bit to get some for the rear where the linings are riveted too? I heard where the lining can become detached especially on low usage cars when moisture can affect the adhesive?
I was advised to rivet and bond, I shall just bond as in my case and with the type of driving I expect to do, rivets will not be required?

Come to think of it I have not seen a brake shoe with rivets in it for about forty years?

Those rivets, say eight per soe will remove quite a lot of surface area too.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:44 am

Coupe rubber seals?

I read here and there that some who have purchased new rubber seals for their Imp Coupe cars have been less than satisfied?

In my case I made the purchases from two sources, the rear side seals came from Frank, aka Bodgey Brother, they are a perfect fit as far as I am concerned.

That is not a scratch on the paint, it will be a reflection?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:47 am

Front and rear window rubbers came from Malcolm Anderson, same with his rubbers, a perfect fit :D

Would those fitting to a Sunbeam Stiletto have issues due to the extra thickness of the roof vinyl?

I have one front screen corner that stands up just a tad, I will go down but as I have a new front screen to install I have left things as they are .
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Post by The Nun » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:57 pm

What make the corners of the screens stick up, providing the seals are correct and good condition is the stainless moulding, if its peeled out of the old rubber to remove the screen it can put an upwards bow in the trim and then it doesnt lie flat on the rubber when refitted, the trim needs laying on the rubber to ensure it sits properly on the rubber before its fitted again, it can be bent slightly by hand to do this, its quite pliable stuff. If the corner is sticking out proud because of the trim it cant be corrected in situe without starting again.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:41 pm

The Nun wrote:What make the corners of the screens stick up, providing the seals are correct and good condition is the stainless moulding, if its peeled out of the old rubber to remove the screen it can put an upwards bow in the trim and then it doesnt lie flat on the rubber when refitted, the trim needs laying on the rubber to ensure it sits properly on the rubber before its fitted again, it can be bent slightly by hand to do this, its quite pliable stuff. If the corner is sticking out proud because of the trim it cant be corrected in situe without starting again.
I think my stainless trims are correct, if I had applied a rubber lubricant such as ' Fluid Film ' (lanolin) the rubber would have pushed fully home.
Given the problem of replacement of a screen I was not about to force the issue and push the rubber down further.

The new screen will be fitted with a coating of ' fluid Film ' on the rubber.
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Post by The Nun » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:27 pm

Thats quite a bad gap there and certainly a good source of a water leak, maybe not there it is never rains?
How many days now until theres no tap water left?
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Post by African Imp » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:40 pm

The Nun wrote:Thats quite a bad gap there and certainly a good source of a water leak, maybe not there it is never rains?
How many days now until theres no tap water left?
I think its 78 days? :( :(

The Western Capes dams are now down to 18% full, or is that now 82% empty?

As junk tends to mess up the bottom of the dams, or they are not level, its said that the last 10% of the water can not be accessed.

To try and sort some of this problem some dams have had divers down to clear a path for the water to flow through.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:08 am

At the time I was rebuilding the cars two quarter lights, Malcolm Anderson must have seen the sorry case of the one on the drivers side?
It was and still is under repair with JB Weld epoxy as the metal glazing frame had some issues with holes in it.

Malcolm was able to find me a serviceable frame and with some luck it had a decent rubber surround too.

So once serviced and fitted I was able to use that side vent for the first time since my ownership of the car began !

The car arrived to my first ownership with the drivers vent light closed and fastened tight with a Ventlok clip and had remained that way for over twenty years.

So thank you Malcolm.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:05 am

The first picture shows the original vent light window and with the locking handle broken off, it was like that twenty of the years that I owned the car :(
By the time that I took that picture I had re painted the frame.

The second picture shows how far I had got with the window frame epoxy repair, painting was next :)

Over a period I imported vent lights from Scotland, Ireland and also England :D
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Post by African Imp » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:15 am

The rear brakes were rebuilt with new cylinders and linings, the drums were surfaced to fit the linings.

They will go into stock when I get the new Mintex linings back from the brake service guys.
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Post by African Imp » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:23 am

It seems that I have enough spares here to re build another Hillman Imp, as the front brake sets are sitting on a shelf now.

After about 1000 kms they have bedded in well, the car has good brakes and I hope they will be that much better when the rear drums are fitted to the new Mintex linings?
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Post by African Imp » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:41 am

As new, well as near as I could make it.

The brake standard shoes will come off when the Mintex ones are ready?
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Post by African Imp » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:36 pm

An email today showed me that a well know Imp coupe member was about to move his brake master cylinder.
The reason given was that no matter what he did some fluid always seemed to leak out and of course damage the paint work on the slam panel at least.

I replied that this was normally an indication that the brake master cylinder was at fault?

As mine is as new and with a stainless steel insert this could not happen to me?

Or could it?

A quick check and there was evidence of a leak, keeping the fluids down a half inch may be a good idea?

My fluids are probably in the right place now?
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Post by African Imp » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:31 pm

Some one may say a higher dam tube will not work, they may well be correct :D
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Post by African Imp » Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:46 pm

Where does the brake fluid leak from anyway?

There is a rubber seal for the cap, does the brake fluid escape via the vent hole?
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:29 pm

African Imp wrote:Where does the brake fluid leak from anyway?

There is a rubber seal for the cap, does the brake fluid escape via the vent hole?
Never to my knowledge - in theory it could if the small seal in the master is not sealing and its blowing back up to the reservoir but as said VERY unlikely .
you possibly have a cylinder and / or pipe union leak somewhere
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Dave ' Linwood ' Lane wrote:
African Imp wrote:Where does the brake fluid leak from anyway?

There is a rubber seal for the cap, does the brake fluid escape via the vent hole?
Never to my knowledge - in theory it could if the small seal in the master is not sealing and its blowing back up to the reservoir but as said VERY unlikely .
you possibly have a cylinder and / or pipe union leak somewhere
Thanks for this advice.

When I was under the car for five days cleaning and painting the undertray I noticed two very small patches of what can only be brake fluid on the nearside rear brake area.

One wass the union of the flexible hose to the body side, a 9/16" spanner for that one and when tightening it up it did move a part turn, the other was the 7/16" union to the new brake cylinder which felt tight enough, the fluid may have just been from when the brakes were bled two years back, was it more?

Question, why would a brake fluid leak such as I found cause a back presssure issue at the brake fluid filler? Imp027
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Post by The Nun » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:48 am

There's very little fluid capacity in the standard reservoir, not a very good idea it soon drains if there the slightest problem and has nothing much for reserve so has to be kept right full. And of course the fluid problem where spillage strips the paint. Next project fit large 2 separate reservoirs instead?

Have we thought about heat expansion on hot days making it overflow if it's brim full?
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Post by African Imp » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:20 am

The Nun wrote:There's very little fluid capacity in the standard reservoir, not a very good idea it soon drains if there the slightest problem and has nothing much for reserve so has to be kept right full. And of course the fluid problem where spillage strips the paint. Next project fit large 2 separate reservoirs instead?

Have we thought about heat expansion on hot days making it overflow if it's brim full?
I had thought about the heat expansion and in my own car the fact that I have front discs fitted, then again I have not been over driving the car and the brakes use could be said o be normal?

Disc brakes require a greater brake fluid reserve, then again my use of the car is quite limited.
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Post by The Nun » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:19 am

I had Viva disc conversion on my old Sport and still used the standard reservoir, provided you dont a get leak and keep the rear brakes adjusted up properly there is enough fluid to work the system, but not nearly enough to cater for a slight problem.
I think most folk on a regularly used car might check the fluid level once a week when they do the oil and water tyres check maybe? and if a cylinder did start to get a weep it could empty the reservoir before you realise there was a problem in a week and cause brake failure, we dont have dual circuit either, and the best about the larger remote reservoirs is you can fit a fluid level warning light??
I think the one fitted to the IMP as standard capacity must be the smallest ever fitted to a car? Only a motorcycle has one of a similar size mounted on the handle bars?
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Post by African Imp » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:54 am

While I am more than content with the standard of Rootes Cars body assembly, my own 1967 Hillman Imp Californian is testament to the way bodies were assembled and then sold on.

Check the fit of the drivers door front shut line, its quite good and the door closes well, then check the next three images :(
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Post by African Imp » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:55 am

Now check the same door and the closing edges!

Both the top and bottom of the door can be seen to be correct, then check that massive gap in the center, oh well, what I have is what I have got.

I once read up on a body repair specialist, he was sorting out a similar issue on a Triumph TR5 or similar?
What he did was add weld to the trailing edges of each door until he had a 1/8" gap all round.
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From a distance all looks well?
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African Imp wrote:Now check the same door and the closing edges!
Both the top and bottom of the door can be seen to be correct, then check that massive gap in the center, oh well, what I have is what I have got.
The factory lead loaded those areas in a attempt to IMProve the gap.
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Post by 617sqn » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:19 am

I don't think Rootes/Chrysler uk were alone in having less than perfect body construction ! We have occasionally compared our cars at National. There are many many differences from car to car. One to look at is along the gutter line - my car is good here, with the outer section of the gutter tight against the roof pressing, but my door alignment and shuts aren't so great. Another Sussex member has a car with great shut lines, but his roof to gutter join is atrocious in comparison.

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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:30 am

617sqn wrote:I don't think Rootes/Chrysler uk were alone in having less than perfect body construction ! We have occasionally compared our cars at National. There are many many differences from car to car. One to look at is along the gutter line - my car is good here, with the outer section of the gutter tight against the roof pressing, but my door alignment and shuts aren't so great. Another Sussex member has a car with great shut lines, but his roof to gutter join is atrocious in comparison.

Andy G
But we dont all want to be the same as that would be boring :lol:

I bet some jobs were done by new lads on the line, like here you have a go at that and I will watch you type of thing, then the trainer says Hmm here let me show you how it supposed to be done lad.

You just have to hope your car is the one the trainer did. :?
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:40 am

Cape Town area and as taken from a regular dam level watches web site :(


It strikes me that the dam readings level are becoming less precise as water levels drop below the gauge plates. This may be contributing to the readings jumping around so much. The past 5 weeks’ water consumption has averaged 6.2M.cuM per week, trending down.

So, to iron out these water level reading inconsistencies, I am going to apply a 5-week moving average of water consumption when estimating the amount of usable water that is left. This average should drift down as level-4 restrictions take effect. Doing so should also stop the odd effect of the number of days apparently going up and down.

How many days of water is left? Using the average water consumption rate of 6.2 M.cuM from the last 5 weeks and absent any useful intervening rainfall, arithmetically calculated, the usable water left will last 13.5 weeks, i.e. 95 days, through to 27th August 2017.

New Level-4 restrictions should further reduce water usage. Also steps being planned to access another 3-4 weeks worth of water from the deep end of Theewaters dam as well as other possible interventions can collectively carry us though to end-September. Winter rains should arrive by then.

The picture is of the Haarlem Dam.
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Re: A Californian drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:42 am

Rain is predicted and from Tuesday evening, in fact Wedensday should produce a gale deluxe, like fifty knots of wind and ten meter waves?

Rain AND SNOW too!

CAPE TOWN - The weather service has issued a warning of possible flooding, as a powerful cold front moves in parts of the Cape this week.
The weekend offered Capetonians a brief respite from the crippling drought with some much-needed rain.

Forecaster Michael Barnes says a bigger cold front will hit the province on Tuesday evening.

“It looks like a very intense system. There is going to be some heavy rainfall and flooding for the Western Cape and Northern Cape.”
Rough sea conditions are expected along the western coastline this week, as a result of the cold front.

The National Sea Rescue Institute's Craig Lambinon says: “We’re expecting sea swells in excess of at least 10m and gale force winds. This will be aggravated by the full moon Spring tide, which peaks on Friday 9 June.”
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