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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:51 pm

African Imp wrote:about GBP 16.00 there is no MOT either, only when the car is sold, .
So what does that mean in general for long term owned old cars over there then? lots are driving around in a dreadful state and dangerous?? :?
I assume not everyone is competent in car repairs there? or are they, and the old cars are better than the ones say a year old?

We've gone a bit that way with the MOT not being required on cars pre 1960 anymore, that is until a family out walking is run down and killed by one with no brakes, then it will be back Im sure, with the familiar phrase our government like to use after the obvious event, "lessons will be learnt from it" :roll:
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:07 pm

That's the one! I notice the price is about 50% more than Rob paid for his out here though :(

I need to find a local supplier, this far no luck.
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:29 pm

The Nun wrote:400 7/16x1/2AF Flare nut spanner open hexagon 7/16x1/2"
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:48 pm

They are £12 each here exc our VAT tax which wouldnt be payed by you if you ordered one from here but i expect maybe import duty and postage would make it not viable for you.
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:57 pm

This was worth a try, given the miles I need to drive to find an Imperial one tomorrow.

I took a number 11 metric ring spanner and cut the slot, it is a great fit but soon slipped when tried and the hex flare nut never moved even a little bit :(

However, the leak is not huge and I was able to bleed the brakes rather well, so while I cannot use them I do have the four brakes all working :D I have to call this progress and time for a beer :D
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:21 pm

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African Imp wrote:about GBP 16.00 there is no MOT either, only when the car is sold, .
So what does that mean in general for long term owned old cars over there then? lots are driving around in a dreadful state and dangerous?? :?
I assume not everyone is competent in car repairs there? or are they, and the old cars are better than the ones say a year old?

We've gone a bit that way with the MOT not being required on cars pre 1960 anymore, that is until a family out walking is run down and killed by one with no brakes, then it will be back Im sure, with the familiar phrase our government like to use after the obvious event, "lessons will be learnt from it" :roll:
The cars owned by the classic car movement are at least as good as you will find in the UK, USA or the EU, its that kind of thing.

Many cars on the roads in this country are lethal, sixty percent of car owners have no insurance of any sort, thats nothing, its not too unusual to see taxis tied up with wire and string.

Its a two tier society?

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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:50 pm

I would not normally recomend this process but given the fact that the hub has some wear and the shaft is quite good I wish to protect the assembly as best I can.

Wear will cause more problems than later removal of the splined hub will?

Shell grease was applied thinly to the shaft, the Loctite 648 retaining fluid only to the hub, the idea is it will take up the spaces left by the wear :)
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:17 am

Today starts the wet sanding of the grey primer, I am using 360 grit and sanding until there is a smooth finish, there are going to be few pictures posted for a while :(

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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:19 am

How do you think the wear occured? Its not a sliding spline, the hub nut wasnt tightened sufficiently?
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:27 am

The Nun wrote:How do you think the wear occured? Its not a sliding spline, the hub nut wasnt tightened sufficiently?
No, the nut was plenty tight but there was very little grease on the splines, I have spare shaft splines and hubs here, they are the same. My Mk1 Imp I had here in 1969 developed the same trouble, so much so I bought a huge ring spanner so I could retighten.

This car is 48 years old of course :)
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:12 pm

I will have to check mine whilst its all in bits, I cant say Ive ever noticed any play on any Ive ever removed, they always seem quite a snug fit.
Ive had splines wear where wire wheels are fitted and the knock on spinners need forever tightening but they are a much finer type.

Maybe the idea of no grease was the hope they would corrode and rust on then? :? perhaps it your extremely hot climate out there dries everything up? :shock:
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:14 pm

Test: we had a power out for three hours :(
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:19 pm

My posting about the brake fluid issue vanished :(

Here we are 24 hours since I did the bleading of the passenger side rear brake and while a drop or two of brake fluid did find its way to the newspaper I left there to catch it showed some spots, the tank does not need a refill.

It will leak when I use the brakes of course.
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Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:05 pm

Being back on the paint work reminds me of one detail I must still prepare.

The Scuttle to Nearside Front Wing joint was filled in due to rust in that area, its only on the one side.
I need to remove the passenger door to enable me to open the joint out with my Tenon saw :D

Tomorrow will be a good day, as today I have epoxy sealed the doors lower and inner joints, which was much easier when the door is still on the car.
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:07 pm

This sanding makes the car look a bit of a mess?
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:37 pm

Should look pretty good once done with all the work youve put into it so far, of course though if it was kept in its original white you wouldnt need to be so fussy as white hides most of the smaller faults in the paintwork, except rust and that looks worse.
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:22 am

The Nun wrote:Should look pretty good once done with all the work youve put into it so far, of course though if it was kept in its original white you wouldnt need to be so fussy as white hides most of the smaller faults in the paintwork, except rust and that looks worse.
Now you tell me!

The car was red when I first got it, I would never have changed the original colour but got to like the red.

Early morning here and while in the garage I saw a low spot on the front wing, not much but it requires fine filler, the light was just right to let me see it :D
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by African Imp » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:21 pm

There was one last item still to come out of the car, the heater element and diffuser, left where it was due the the water cooling system.

Today I wanted to remove the screen washer jet nearest to the driver, its a lot of work, the heater and also the speedo pod need removal to reach the last of three self tappers fitted.

Now with the heater element out we can at last see the cars true code 108 white paint works.

This is very De Ja Vue as that is how I found Robs 1971 Hillman Deluxe car colour, being hidden it had never been repainted.

Its tempting to leave it white?
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:25 pm

African Imp wrote:at last see the cars true code 180 white paint works.
Polar White 108 :wink:
I dont think they ever got as far as 180 as they went over to letter identification ie Cherry Red for the Caledonian is PRP
178 seems the highest on my list which was Apricot.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:59 pm

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African Imp wrote:at last see the cars true code 180 white paint works.
Polar White 108 :wink:
I dont think they ever got as far as 180 as they went over to letter identification ie Cherry Red for the Caledonian is PRP
178 seems the highest on my list which was Apricot.
Thanks, I was just testing the forum members to see who is wide awake today, now corrected (many thanks) :D
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African Imp wrote:
I was just testing the forum members to see who is wide awake today, now corrected (many thanks) :D[/quote]

I knew you were having a laugh :D
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Post by African Imp » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:26 pm

To keep the car in good shape I changed the oil,filters and plugs on Jeans VW Polo, then went to Llandudno about three miles distant to check all was well.

About 24c and a really nice day :D

It was soon back to the Californian and while nothing looks very different a lot was done.
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Post by African Imp » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:34 pm

If all goes well I will finish the grey primer tomorrow, if not monday is another week.

Saturday is a Killarney Circuit race day, its the race of classics and Jody Sheckter will be doing a demonstration run in his Tyrell F1, was that powered by the Ford Cosworth DFV 3 ltr I wonder.

This is the event that must not be missed, so many classic cars are powered by Coventry Climax power units that you feel quite at home :D

This is the Ford Cosworth DFV 3ltr and in a Tyrell F1 car, my thanks to Wikipedia for publishing the picture.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:54 am

Removal of the windscreen washer jet outlet was the only real way to sand and then fill then re sand the area flat, with the various layers of paints applied the area had quite a noticeable hollow where the jet was fastened.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:49 am

A new discovery?

What I ask is this bump for, there is water on the sanded paint surface prior to primer.

The area is the drainage channel in front of the scuttle and on the nearside of the car.
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African Imp wrote:A new discovery?

What I ask is this bump for, there is water on the sanded paint surface prior to primer.

The area is the drainage channel in front of the scuttle and on the nearside of the car.
I think its to clear the wiper drive, or to give clearance when fitting/removing it, fitted to the n/s inner front wing??
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African Imp wrote:A new discovery?

What I ask is this bump for, there is water on the sanded paint surface prior to primer.

The area is the drainage channel in front of the scuttle and on the nearside of the car.
I think its to clear the wiper drive, or to give clearance when fitting/removing it, fitted to the n/s inner front wing??
Clever, yes I have removed the cover, the arm from the wiper motor to the worm passes close to that area.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:49 am

Today I wanted to strip the black paints off the passenger side door frame, I did that with no lights as the power was off for two and a half hours, we are lucky this lot in power have not put the sun out yet.

Just look at all the tools I needed to get the set screws out, plus a mini grinder to cut off the pin that is in the door restraint.

Without that screw driver and its hex drive and the adjustable spanners that door would still be on now.

The clean hinge plates are off the otherside :)
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Post by The Nun » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:39 pm

Same kit and impact driver I use to get the door hinge screws out if they never have been out before, the tops usually come straight undone but the wheel arch ones normally need a little heat on the nut then they do, Ive never had to drill or destroy any screws to get one off.
Use waxoyl or copperslip on the threads when putting them back, adjust the door then just tweek them tight with the impact driver to secure, then they will always come out again no problem next time.
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Post by African Imp » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:43 pm

Back to bare metal, the only way to do this quickly and cleanly is with paint stripper, as the metal is left clean.

After about five applications of the stripper a clean water clean with a pan scourer takes everything off and all thats left is clean bare metal :D
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Post by African Imp » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:38 am

Following in the tradition of Bad Obsessions Motorsport I made a new tool up to re shape the roof gutter.

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The stainless trim was damaged, so much so it looked like an scaffold plank with cement on it had fallen on it, there is a shop in JoBurg who may be able to repair it and the damaged rear window trim, same plank I think :(
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Post by African Imp » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:42 am

The door had to come off to enable me to cut the body groove.

To enable the tennon saw to cut correctly I clamped a wooden guide to the body, its hidden in the picture.

This detail is to me as Important as the rear body join where the roof comes down and meets the body, it will be softened a little with an application of fine body filler to soften the line a little.

Imp027 progress, I am now off to the Killarney Race Circuit just outside Cape Town for a day in the sunshine and historic and classic car racing :D
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Post by African Imp » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:06 am

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F1 race cars are really very small when you see them this close up.

The Californian Imp was given a rest day yesterday and Imp Club member Eric Wells and myself took off to the Killarney Race Circuit for a very entertaining day of historic and classic car and bike racing. Six times world champion Jim Redman was also there with his 250cc Honda, at 84 years old he was still demonstrating how to ride a race bike!

The star of the show this time for me was Jodi Sheckters race Tyrrell F1 with the Ford Cosworth DFV 3 ltr V8 engine. This car was recently restored and in Hout Bay where I live. It won the UK gp and also in Sweden I think?

The car was driven by Ian Sheckter on the day and as a demo drive, with some F2 cars, one being ex John Love.

Tyrrell in 1974 gave him his first full-time drive in F1. Jody rewarded them with a third-place finish in the drivers' championship and a pair of wins in Sweden and Britain. During the year, he scored points in eight consecutive races, one of the longer scoring streaks of the time. A slight off-year followed, although he did become the only South African to win the South African Grand Prix, but his third year with the team in 1976 gave him another third place finish in the drivers' championship. In that season, Tyrrell introduced the most radical car in F1 history, the six-wheeled Tyrrell P34. Scheckter gave the six-wheeler its only win on Sweden's Anderstorp circuit and in his twelve races with the car, he scored points ten times. This included a thrilling race-long battle for the lead in the American Grand Prix between himself and his great friend James Hunt
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Post by African Imp » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:50 am

Coventry Climax engines were a little scarce this year and only the 750cc sized engine in a Lotus 11 driven by a lady driver was to be seen. The was a Cooper which may have had a Coventry Climax engine in it but the cover was on the engine bay so I could not see the engine.

The driver told Eric that the engine will pull close to 6000 rpm in top gear.

The lady driver is Di Dugmore, seen in my picture talking to Imp Club member Eric Wells.

We had a great day out :D
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Post by African Imp » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:08 am

The Cooper was Coventry Climax powered, the program reads car 20 Doug Mockett Cooper Climax and from the UK, quite a number of drivers and cars were from overseas, an E Type Jaguar also from the UK and two Lotus Elans from Sweden.

The car in the background is a super fast car in Walls Ice Cream colours, its a V8 powered Lola T70 spyder and one of the faster cars on the day.

The badge in the cockpit says Cooper Car Company, Surbiton, yes thats a battery on the floor!
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Post by African Imp » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:34 am

Some may ask are the postings of classic race cars relevant to my my thread on the Imp Californian?

Well a day at the races was a reminder of the time, it was all of forty three years back , when I raced my Mk1 998cc Hillman Imp at the same event, then it was named the Cape South Easter Springbok Series. I still have the silver cup for finishing second, I also won a ten lap handicap event on the same circuit, I crossed the line first but the clerk of the course saw that if he ran the race just one more lap he would see the entry finish a whole lot closer and I was in fact passed, so another second place :(



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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by bazzateer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:14 am

The Nun wrote: white hides most of the smaller faults in the paintwork, except rust and that looks worse.
That's why they invented white gaffer tape! :lol:
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by bazzateer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:25 am

Surprised that CC 750 only pulls 6k revs in top. Most standard Imps will do better!
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Re: A Californinan drying out in South Africa

Post by The Nun » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:18 am

Nice cam cover with Coventry Climax on it too :wink:
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