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Re: Amy's Chamois Coupe

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That does sound like a good idea Scott. :D The next meeting could be around at yours giving us all a demonstration of the black art of panel beating :D

Your fairly cracking on with the car Scott, You will have that finished before mine I bet.

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Like you I'm OK in 2 dimension repair panels but compound curves :?

Progress will be dependant on my able assistant turning up for for work :twisted:

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I understand the compound curves but you have lost me with the able assistant??? :lol:

Never had one of them. :wink:

Good luck with that.

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colimp66 wrote:I understand the compound curves but you have lost me with the able assistant??? :lol:

Never had one of them. :wink:

Good luck with that.

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Col, I think that you have mis-quoted me however I would agree that the ability to make your own panels is an advantage which I did as an Apprentice in the car industry in Coventry in the 60s but then I could use their tools for my 1937 Austin Ruby. I have not done much since
Retirement should be time to relax but I do not have enough hours in the day. Ann's Stiletto has a 86 Tax Disc so I do the Mechanicals and we contracted out the bodywork. Finding someone to do it is a problem these days as many panels are plastic or bolt on. Anything more difficult and it becomes too expensive and the car is written off.
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Oops, apologies Geoff, I'm not that good at the old quoting on the keyboard as can be seen :lol: , I have rectified my mistake.
I was meant to be quoting Scott there, sorry.

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I want to get a decent shot or sand bag and have a bash ( :P ) at fabricating. I bet it's a great way to work out some tension too! :lol: Seriously, though, it would be a useful skill. I've long admired those that can turn a flat piece of metal (steel or alloy) into a compound curved panel or a car body. :)

I have some bodywork hammers somewhere... :?

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bks974c wrote:Paul - do they even do them ?

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No, they wont / dont, want to do them :shock: or anything Imp any more it seems & as I am still waiting for the 5 pairs of front & rear arches & 5 pairs of step sills ordered in April.. :shock: .....ready for the National ....not a small order !.. ...........Malcolm :evil:
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imporium wrote:
bks974c wrote:Paul - do they even do them ?

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No, they wont / dont, want to do them :shock: or anything Imp any more it seems & as I am still waiting for the 5 pairs of front & rear arches & 5 pairs of step sills ordered in April.. :shock: .....ready for the National ....not a small order !.. ...........Malcolm :evil:
It seems they are happy to sell them on ebay (although no rear arches currently listed) cutting out the middleman and having to give a discount no doubt.

Having a captive market effectively means they can do what they want.

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In an effort to rust proof it for the future applied weld through primer to the edges, two coats of bonda primer and then silver top coat (just because it was there)

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B Pillar done but run out of sanding belts
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Top work going on here folks .
That inner rear arch shows just how crusty it was .
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Nice job Scott. Fair play to you
wish I had your skills!!
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Great job. Wish I could do what you are doing. I can do some welding but not what you have done. Top job there!
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Thanks for the kind words but its not that difficult, the more you do it the easier it becomes, that and buying the right tools but still lots I'd like to get.

Rear quarter off
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Inner rear quarter being readied to replace accident damaged one.
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Little bit of rust in corner of window to deal with
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Was it difficult to remove the rear quarter? Will the same panel be going back on, Scott? :?:

Really excellent work. I love the fabricated repair section you have let into the bottom of the passenger side A-post. Really nice. :D

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Paul

To remove the rear quarter simply drill out the many spot weld and chisel off, I have a NOS rear panel which will make the replacement easy using the spot welder.

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Notching up the injuries on Amy's car - today when removing the last of the rear quarter twisting to break the last of the spot welds holding it when it suddenly released and hit me in the face giving me a nasty 3" cut on the cheek fortunately not too deep.

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It was the white one :x

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Ouch! :shock: Still, I think you are winning this particular battle, Scott. 8)

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yeah but at what cost :lol:
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Want to blank off the vents but can't decide whether just remove them altogether :?:
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If it were my car, I'd leave the vents. It's up to you, of course. :)

Nice work! :D

:?: Is Amy assisting you with the restoration of her car? I am just curious. :wink:

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Yes, on Monday she repositioned the axle stands while I lifted the shell. :P

We did discuss colour schemes and interior options while walking the dog :lol:

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Great thread! looks like a lovely little challenge you have on your hands here! :) be sure to keep us updated with pics! looks great so far!
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Bought a book on origami so thought I'd give it a try

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Couple of folds later and I had this
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Little mod - chassis leg boxed in
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First trial fit of rear quarter
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Superb Scott. Not an easy one, deciding on the vents eh? You could just blank them off inside and fill it with waxoyl.
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The idea was to cut them out, plate over the hole and replace the vents, effectively closing off the vents but retaining the look thus preventing water getting in - well at least via that route.

However, not sure if it would look better smooth.

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Personally I'd be inclined to keep them for the looks, however most people would never think twice about them

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My 2p - personally, I think it will look odd without them. I also am not 100% convinced that water can creep up into them in any great quantity, tbh. I agree that the rear box section rots out on coupes, but this is more often caused by water collecting along the U section behind the engine lid and corroding through, in my experience or holes under the rear window surround or water leaks into the car by shonky rear screen seals.
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impmann wrote:My 2p - personally, I think it will look odd without them. I also am not 100% convinced that water can creep up into them in any great quantity, tbh. I agree that the rear box section rots out on coupes, but this is more often caused by water collecting along the U section behind the engine lid and corroding through, in my experience or holes under the rear window surround or water leaks into the car by shonky rear screen seals.
Washing the car with a hose certainly can get a lot of water in, lots of work needing done so little improvements easily incorporated at this stage.

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excellent work scott
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Good to see the scuttle panel solid
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Small section of rust at bottom of A pillar - cut out and replaced
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Great work Scott, making some rather good progress there.
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^^ What Chris said. :D I like what you did with the A-post repair. I think my car might need some work to the nearside A-post. I like your whole approach to simply getting on with cutting out the rot and sticking in fresh metal. My hat is off to you. :wink:

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Rust proofing

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Amy has decided the cleaner lines of vent free is the way to go
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No progress on Amy's car as I've been playing with my latest project 2003 1.8i MX5 accident damage to osf suspension and wing but otherwise very clean car.

Suspension now changed, panels replaced, timing belt replaced with 4 pce kit, brakes fully refurbished so time to tackle the chassis rails.
Far from rotten even hammering them failed to hole them but signs of internal corrosion going on from the swelling. It might be a couple of years
before it becomes critical but it will happen so might as well tackle it now when it already stripped.

Drilled out the spot welds for the inner section and then cut out the chassis rail.

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Folded the inner section and outer panels and spot welded them together - trimmed to fit so the front fit into the front of the chassis leg and
then swings up at rear. Captive nuts and studs welded in.

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In position prior to welding.

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All welded in.

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And then the rain came on :( Rest assured next post will be back on topic

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Hi
This thread is amazing last time I looked on it there was a rusty Coupe has someone swapped it for a new shell?? :o :D

Out of interest the did you use a shrinker/stretcher to make the panel below? if not how did you make it? i've tried several times to produce a flanged curved panel but every time i end up slitting it and welding it back up! yours however looks perfect!

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Yes, shrinker/stretcher great little tool

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-METZ-Shrin ... 996wt_1170

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:shock: :shock: :shock: Wow! Serious skills on display there, Scott! 8)

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Well where does the time go 2 months with no progess on Amy's car.

Today tidied the garage

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and started to clean up the floor ready to weld in the floor edge, until Karen came home and I stopped to give her Imp the once over as taking it for its MOT tomorrow.

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nice work scott
is the English wheel any good
that and a shrinker are on my wish list for xmas
unless your going into panel production :lol:
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