TYM 181M resto! Update 3 years on!

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TYM 181M resto! Update 3 years on!

Post by jakjak » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:12 pm

Hey there folks! Just a quick introduction about my car and myself.

John Collings Jnr from Fife in Scotland. My dad is a member of the imp club and has had his imp for about 20 years so I am quite familiar with them. Been to many Nationals and attend the Imp ecosse events when I can. I received my imp from Andy Harker as a rolling shell in the hope that I would restore it to its former glory! The car needs a lot of work and Ive been given a deadline date by the mrs (scottish national 2013 @ Perth) as she thinks it will never see the road again :roll: so with the winter months rolling in, now is the time to start work on "Timmy" :D

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Ill try keep the updates coming as much as i can so watch this space and thanks for looking :)
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Post by bks974c » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:23 pm

Hi John

Good to see you on here, look forward to following your progress.

Are the Collings going to the Christmas meal on the 9th December ?

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Post by jakjak » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:40 pm

Thanks scott. Im not sure whats happening with the xmas meal yet but ill find out and get back to you asap!
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:37 pm

Welcome along , Im trying to work out the colour of your car but im struggling .
Keep us all up to date on the resto
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 26/11/12

Post by jakjak » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:53 pm

Quick Update folks!

Managed to get the car on to the body tilter to make stripping the underside a little easier. So got cracking this evening and managed to get most of the floor stripped. Another few hours work and i think the full underside of the car (including engine bay etc) should be done. Then buffing down and cutting out all the rot shall commence :) Hoping to get back up to the car on thursday evening so will try to update with more picts :) Cheers for looking!

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 26/11/12

Post by bks974c » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:02 pm

Good evenings work - floor doesn't look too bad :D

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 26/11/12

Post by ImpManiac » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:51 am

Nice work, jakjak! 8)

I have to confess that I am experiencing garage envy looking at your facility. :oops:

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 26/11/12

Post by kilty » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:09 am

Looks a similar metallic shade as the one Rob sold a few years back. Uncommon.
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by jakjak » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:36 pm

Thanks for the comments guys! The car was originally white but was painted a sort of pastel blue with a vinyl wrap added to the roof. I think once its ready for paint, it'll go back to being white. Anyways, here is another small update! Managed to get the rest of the underseal stripped from the floor and 2 inner arches done. Also cleaned some of the floor with the brush cup on the grinder to see what i would be left with lol to my surprise wasnt too bad! Next goal is to completely clean the Floor, inner arches and engine bay!

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I know its not a significant update but I thought id share it anyways :) I wont be back up at the car until Thursday night so no updates until then. Thanks for looking :D
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by ImpManiac » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:05 am

Most of the floor looks to be in excellent condition. :D It seems to be the rear suspension subframe area that suffers, as well as one or two others.

What are you planning to use to treat and rust proof the floor?

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by jakjak » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:10 pm

Cheers ImpManiac! Im nipping down to my local paint / body shop to see what they can supply for treating rust. I have Zinc 182 anti rust primer for when everything has been repaired underneath then ill apply some sort of sealer when im done with the floor. Any reccomendations from you guys? What do you find the best stuff to use is?

Ill be back up at the unit tomorrow evening and hopefully my dad and a few mates will come along too so im sure I can find something for them to help out with :)

Might even start welding tomorrow once everything is stripped! Fingers crossed :-D
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by bks974c » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:44 am

John

Bilt Hamber Deox-C and Gel are superb really removes the rust but not a quick fix followed by POR15 Rust Prevention Paint for me.

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by bks974c » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:53 am

John

Paul might have some of the panels you need

See viewtopic.php?f=28&t=23416

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by jakjak » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:26 pm

cheers Scott, ill drop him a txt!

Was up at the imp on Thursday night but never took any photos. After fully inspecting the floor pan I think it would probably be easier if I ordered both sides of the new 8" floor side panels (where the floor meets the lip of the sill) as it would be a lot easier fitting that instead of cutting and shaping for hours on end. The rest of the floor can be fixed with small patches etc. All the running gear has been stripped down and cleaned up, ready for painting. Only part of the car still to be buffed down is the engine bay.

Dear Santa, Please can you send me

2 Full length step sills
2 Front wheel arch repair panels
2 Front inner arches
2 Rear inner arches
4 door hinge plates

And by Santa I mean Malcom Anderson lol
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by bks974c » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:41 pm

John

Are you going to Monday's meeting ? If not will catch you next Sunday or give me a call.

Do not order any panels just yet :wink:

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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by jakjak » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:48 pm

Yeah ill be along at monday's meet so ill have a chat with you then! :D
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Re: TYM 181M 1974 Imp restoration. Quick update 27/11/12

Post by jakjak » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:07 pm

Another small update tonight.

Not been up at the imp since Thursday night as its been so cold but bit the bullet and headed up to continue with the stripping / cleaning.

Engine bay and rear shelf
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Only got the inner arches to clean up once I get the bay etc finished. should be fully stripped and ready for butchering by the end of the week lol

Thanks for looking :)
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Post by ImpManiac » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:09 pm

^^ Thanks for posting! :mrgreen: Looking good. :wink:

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Post by jakjak » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:00 pm

Hey folks. Not posted up for a few week as ive been bust with prepping for xmas as im sure all of you have too!

Went up to the imp last night and decided to start cutting :) ill let the picts do the talking

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Ill start boring holes for the subframe to bolt back on shortly
Well thats me on holiday for 2 weeks now so after xmas day and boxing day im sure there will be more frequent updates!

The only thing i really need now in terms of doing the rest of the floor is the 8" floor sections that go the full length of the floor pan.

cheers for looking!
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by bks974c » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:35 pm

Looking good, nice bit of fabrication.

Does that mean you have got the other panels sorted :?:

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Post by jakjak » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:51 pm

Thanks Scott! I forgot to phone you yesterday. Express got back to me on wednesday, their main foreman is on holiday at the moment and he's the one who deals with orders etc so they are going to get back to me on the 1st or 2nd of january when he returns.
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by colimp66 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:20 pm

Oooh that looks all too familiar that does.
Nice job sorting it out. You could have the floor bits bashed into shape & welded in by the 1st or 2nd of January couldnt you?? :wink:

Keep it up .
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by jakjak » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:35 am

colimp66 wrote:You could have the floor bits bashed into shape & welded in by the 1st or 2nd of January couldnt you?? :wink:

Keep it up .
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Thanks for the comments :)

Yeah i guess i could but id prefer the 8" sections to cut down the amount of time im going to have to spend on the floor lol Time is the one thing i dont have a lot of if its going to make it to the national haha!
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by HARTWELL MK1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:43 am

what about the club floors, one piece 1.6m long, by 600 mm wide, repair everthing from the tunnel to the sill, and from the front to the back ! :D
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Post by jakjak » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:22 am

I also considered that too Hartwell mk1 but a lot of the floor is still in pretty good condition so it would be a shame to waste it :)
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Post by colimp66 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:37 am

I can totally understand the time thing.
Having panels to "simply" weld in is a lot easier then measuring I dont know how many times & bashing a bit of metal around to make it fit & look correct. Huge time saving with the ready made stuff.
Jeff does have a point with the full floors though, Wish they were available when I was doing my floor. My timing is rubbish. :lol:

Good luck with it over the holidays..
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Post by bks974c » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:08 am

Don't get me wrong its great that the floors are available for the cars that need them, but John imho is taking the right approach as the floor is good needing a few patches. The floor pressing are not as sharp as the originals so in this case I think the finish will be better going this route.

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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:17 am

I always repair whats there rather than replace if I can , I leave the maximum original panel thats possible
Rear arches are a good example , they are often way bigger than the rust on the car so i cut the repair panel to fit the car and never the other way around .
I wouldnt replace the whole floor unless there was no other choice
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Post by ImpManiac » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:30 pm

Great work, jakjak! 8) Tidy fabrication there!

I too shall only be replacing what absolutely needs it and repairing the remainder. :wink: It is very good to have the backup of the Club's replacement panels, though and I would not hesitate to use any of them, if I needed to. :)

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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by oli » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:05 pm

Once you have repaired the floor where the rear crossmember goes, if you absolutely cover it in grease before you bolt the crossmember back on, you will find that it keeps the water out from between the two very nicely. I did this about 30 years ago, and when I came to remove the crossmember about 20 years later, it was like new metal still underneath.
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. cutting and welding 21/12/12

Post by jakjak » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:16 pm

Thanks for the tips and comments! Another quick update today.

Not been able to get up to the imp as much as I would like between xmas and new year but heres a few more photos
Managed to get the rear section of the floor folded round and welded in to place while maintaining the shape
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next thing to get started was the other side of floor that the subframe bolts on to. So heres the hole....
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Heres all the crappy metal cut out
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Notice that there is a missing captive nut / strengthing section to the lower part of the floor. I cant weld the new floor section in place until I have built up the part that is missing. And I cant do any of this until I get another subframe as mine slightly twisted at this side.

So I decided to make up the plate
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Decided to make up the front plate
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I forgot to take photos but this part is welded in and finished :D

Now I need either the 6" or 8" full length floor sections to get the underside of the car complete. Im not sure if Malcom Anderson is open or not but I cant seem to get through on the phone :(

I cant wait to get the underside of the car finished so I can start fitting the new panels!

Once again, thanks for looking :D
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Post by bks974c » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:07 pm

John

Can lend you my rear crossmember as its off the car while I do the bodywork.

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Post by jakjak » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:14 pm

bks974c wrote:John

Can lend you my rear crossmember as its off the car while I do the bodywork.

Scott
Perfect! I emailed you this morning lol

I can nip to yours anytime this week if you are free?
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Post by bks974c » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:25 pm

/\Better try again nothing arrived.

Will dig it out tomorrow and let you know.

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Post by jakjak » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:36 pm

I have sent email again. Thanks again Scott
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I cant get any incoming calls, ie : not ringing here, so you cant even reach my answerphone to get my message to say I'm not available until Monday ...........as trying to catch up on Novembers orders still ......& tranny jobs, also had severe man flu / or worse ! :lol:.... over the Humbug week or so & still have excess cider here to use up soon !!
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Post by jakjak » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:38 pm

cheers for the reply malcolm! Hope you get better soon! As for the excess cider.... send some up this way haha!

Ill drop you an email about the 6" floor sections along with my details etc as im back to work on monday and wont have time to phone you.
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Post by ImpManiac » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:43 pm

Coming together nicely, John. :) You'll have that floor finished in no time. :wink:

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Post by jakjak » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:50 pm

Cheers ImpManiac! I cant wait to start on the body! My Dad has kindly gave me an engine to get built up along with most things to get it going. Imp011
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Re: TYM 181M restoration. More cutting and More welding Jan

Post by leadfoot » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:32 pm

Hi Jakjak
having just completed the fitting of an Imp club full floor section i can fully recommend them and well worth the money, yes they may take longer to fit but i now have a very solid unrotten floor that when fully treated and painted should last for another 30 years, :) just hope the rest of the car can :lol:

keep up the good work Keith.
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