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Post by 19James » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:15 pm

Oh god, What have i done. I've got another one of those bl***y Imps :roll:
Of course thats not what im really thinking, I'm really excited and i cant wait to get it back to start stripping it and rebuilding it.
Me, my dad and Chris went over to Dick Tompkins barn to have a look at a shell he had told me about. So we got there and Dick showed me the shell but as soon as i walked in the barn i saw this little brown racer with taped out lights and race numbers. I looked closer and i could see an old roll cage, an old racing seat with harness on the drivers side but a standard seat on the passenger side. Its been stripped out inside and has a big revcounter just to the right of the steering wheel and an extra pod in the middle with three gauges on it. The cars been seriously lowered for curcuit use and will definatley have to be raised on montes for road use. From what i could see the bodywork has no serious issues being relatively solid.
Plans for it are to drag it back home (hopefully before national so i can get a few bits on the autojumble), give it a damn good clean and see what needs doing and then start doing it.
I only got one picture because i couldn't really get to it, Does anyone recognise it and do they have any photos of it racing. The driver's name was on the door, Keith someone, I can't remember the last name. It's brown with a black roof and a yellow stripe down each side.
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Anyway i'm off to carry on being excited :D
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Post by HARTWELL MK1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:32 pm

1967 was a good year, and its 2 years older than me ! :P
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Post by tomcat » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:00 pm

Well done James.
Another toy :D
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Post by ChrisBenoy » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:24 pm

If it wasn't for the fact i've probably also acquired myself an imp today for use as a toy i'd be fairly jealous :lol:

I do like that brown imp. Its a real shame the laminated screen got smashed by kids when it was in the old barn. Will be an awesome vehicle when its done. Are you intending to use it on the road?
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Post by 19James » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:04 pm

Yeah it's going on the road for when i'm 17 so i've got well over 1 and a half years to get it back on the road.
May i ask what your planning on doing with the Bond?
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Re: WBH 985E

Post by 19James » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:40 pm

Hi everyone
Me and my dad have started to draw up a list of what (i think) it's going to need. Because it's been standing for so long i want to renew all the essentials in the braking department (master cylinders, wheel cylinders, hoses etc) and also because the Imp has been so lowered and the front wheels appear to not have a ridiculous amount of neggy camber in relation to the ride height, I'm guessing the stub axles have been modified (like the trials imp but the opposite way(to produce less neggy camber)) so the suspension is going to be put back to standard with a set of decent Dampers(not shock absorbers, thats the springs job!!!) and some monte springs. Also i think the clutch slave cylinder will need changing. As for the rear window well im just going to perspex that and replace the broken side window.
I'm currently thinking about robbing the bits i need from my trials Imp, Using them for this one and doing a load of autosolos for when i'm 16 then putting turning it into a road car when i'm 17.
It's a good thing i'm getting quite a few requests from people to cut their lawns as its going to cost me :lol:
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Post by tomcat » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:16 pm

Hi James
Sounds like a plan :)
More pictures please :idea:
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Post by 19James » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:46 am

I haven't actually got the car yet but i should have it not this saturday but the saturday after.
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Re: WBH 985E

Post by 19James » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:55 pm

Hi everyone.
Me and my dad made our way over to Dick Tompkin's garage to pick up the Imp.
It's an awesome little car, i just love the way it sits and the colour scheme is so period.
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But guess what i could see under the rear part of the passenger side sill :roll: :cry:
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Yep, its a mixture of glass and rust....... Oh god :(
Anyway we got it on the trailer and brought it home.
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I thought i had lost the keys but you will never guess what!! They were on the bonnet. I had put them on there just after we put the car on the trailer at Dick's garage and they were still there when we got home. How the hell they stayed there for 25 miles i dont know!
I jacked the rear wheel off the ground to have a look at the brake and what sort of spacers were being used and i kind of got sidetracked :o :( :cry:
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It is pretty bad in that corner and i dont think the other side is much better.
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I found a couple of cans of paint in the car but i dont think it's quite enough to do the whole thing :lol:
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Oh well, at least the dog likes it. Unfortunatley its a bit too low for him to fit under :lol:
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Yes its going to be a lot of work but i've seen worse and the front end and the floor is in really good shape.
So, Let the work begin :D
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Post by tomcat » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:59 pm

Well done James :) :)
Look forward to watching your progress.
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Post by bornagain-imp » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:04 am

It does sit nicely :roll: :D :D
Nice little project

hope there's not too much tin worm when you start digging :D :roll:
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Post by 19James » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:11 pm

Hi everyone.
I have started to take a few bits off like mirrors and a couple of the gauges.
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Also gave a bit of the roof a polish to see how the black came up.
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Quite unhappy about this dent because I dont think i can get to it to push it out.
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Proper work will start probably after the national when we have got some panels :)
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Post by colin rooney » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:27 pm

you can get that dent out with a pin puller

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Post by ImpManiac » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:06 pm

Cool project, James. :) :)
colin rooney wrote:you can get that dent out with a pin puller
That's what I thought. :wink:

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Post by HARTWELL MK1 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:44 pm

colin rooney wrote:you can get that dent out with a pin puller

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Post by 19James » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:03 pm

whats a pin puller please
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Post by stuartrf » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:19 pm

you grind all the paint off and basically spot weld 2 inch long pins onto the dent and use a slide hammer to pull on the pin pulling the dent out
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Post by HARTWELL MK1 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:24 pm

stuartrf wrote:you grind all the paint off and basically spot weld 2 inch long pins onto the dent and use a slide hammer to pull on the pin pulling the dent out
very usefull bit of kit
You can also glue pads on too and use the slide hammer. very usefull for hail stone damage!. :o
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Post by ibbo » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:48 pm

what have i done my fault for getting james into imps said i wasnt going to weld up another rusty imp the things you do for your kids looks like im going to be skint for a while :lol: :lol:
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Post by tomcat » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:49 am

ibbo wrote:what have i done my fault for getting james into imps said i wasnt going to weld up another rusty imp the things you do for your kids looks like im going to be skint for a while :lol: :lol:
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Post by 19James » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:57 pm

Hi everyone.
I've started stripping underseal off the front passenger wheel arch and it seems i am finding nice strong inner arches.
Dad has just cut off the rear passenger side sill and it's not good :roll: it will definatley need a new floor edge on that corner to weld the new section of sill to.
I will get some pictures taken when i have finished today :)
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Post by 19James » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:10 pm

Hi everyone
I've finished stripping underseal off the front passenger inner wheel arch and i'm very pleased with how solid it is apart from a hole at the front of the sill :roll:
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This is the underseal i got off the arch.
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There is one in the same place on the other side.
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This is the state of the sill after the outer was cut out.
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Also took the harness out.
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This morning we tried to adjust the coilovers to raise the front up so i could get the car in the garage but we didn't have a C spanner that would fit so we just put some standard springs in. It does look a little bit funny but i can sort the ride height out when it's nearly done.
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A pic of the front anti roll bar.
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And in the garage. Kermit won't be happy :lol:
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Post by long_gone_John » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:48 pm

Ha Ha Ha.... nice catch.

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Post by 19James » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:19 pm

Hi everyone
Just finished getting the underseal of the drivers side front wheel arch.
Halfway through (went for a cup of tea :roll: )
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Another big pile of underseal :D
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Post by ImpManiac » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:43 pm

It's coming along, James. :)

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Post by 19James » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:24 pm

Hi everyone.
We have been busy at work grinding, cutting and welding the Imp.
I started by jacking the car up nice and high so we could get underneath easily.
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Then the inner part of the sill was cleaned up so that we could weld new metal to it.
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My dad went to start welding but soon realised we were going to need more of this.
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Then some of this happened.
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New bit of metal that we can weld the inner sill and the floor to.
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Done for today. The green bit is from my other green Imp when we cut the engine lid up for metal.
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A pair of these came before national.
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Also Chris gave me a nice shiny battery tray.
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I bought a couple of Super Imp badges at national to go on after spraying.
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Payed £15 for 6 litres of sandalwood gold that Ian Toony has been dragging to national for about 10 years :lol:

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Post by 19James » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:53 pm

Hi everyone
We carried on welding the rear corner on the brown turd today.
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We drilled some holes in the inner sill so we could plug weld it to the floor edge.
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I had made a template yesterday so we cut out a plate to be welded in.
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This is the repair panel clamped in place so we could get the inner arch and floor lined up correctly.
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This is the end of the sill before we made a plate for it.
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I made a template and cut the metal out and dad welded it on.
Thats about it for today, Hopefully tomorrow we will finish welding the floor then we can start to weld on the outer sill.
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Post by 19James » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:53 pm

Hi everyone.
I feel like we got loads done today :D We won some rear arch repair panels on ebay for £60 before the national.
Today dad cut out the old arch which was made of rust and filler, we sanded the surrounding area before cutting the arch off so we could see what was good metal and what wasn't.
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Sanded around the arch, Before cutting the arch off.
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The top part of the arch was still quite solid but there was no point in messing about cutting bits off when you can replace a whole arch.
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The rear part of the arch is quite bad and it was made of filler.
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Tried a panorama picture of the old arch before cutting off.
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The new arch welded on.
The return edge of the inner arch was gone nearly all the way round so we cut about 1 inch off all round and tapped the remaining inner arch outwards so that we could weld that to the outer arch creating a really strong structure.
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Need to sort this out with some new metal.
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We also got the sill extension welded on.
Look at the difference in size of cutting wheels :lol: , the bottom one has had 2 and a half days cutting
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The spring cone needs some work aswell.
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Post by tomcat » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:08 pm

Hi James
The 'Ibbo' team look as if they are working well :) :)
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Post by ImpManiac » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:53 pm

Good work indeed, James and Mark. :)

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Post by 19James » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Hi everyone
Today we tackled the rear quarter and i knew it was bad but i wasn't expecting to find what i did :cry:
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This is what came out from the corner. Filler, fibreglass and a big piece of aluminium :(
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After it was cut out.
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This was the panel we made out of an old engine lid. This will need blending in with a skim of filler after having the welds ground down.
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After the front bit was welded in i moved to the back part and i could see the filler underneath the underseal and there was a big blob of fibreglass on the inner side in the engine bay. So i got a screw driver and a hammer and punched it out from the inside then wire brushed the outside to clean up the metal. As you can see from the picture there isn't much left but i'm sure we can do something to sort it out :roll:
I've put it in the garage and i'm going to forget about it for a day and then i will start making templates and cutting out metal so that dad can get straight to welding without having to mess about for ages making repair sections.
I can imagine the car was never very succesful because it must have been weighed down so much by filler, fibreglass and other various bodges :lol: :roll:
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Post by 19James » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:49 am

Hi everyone
Well happy with the rear wing now :D We applied the filler on tuesday night and did a bit of sanding then yesterday got it about right before painting the wing in anti rust primer. Now it's all in one colour its a lot easier to see where it needs more work and where the attention has payed off.
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I am particularly happy with the sill extension (last pic) and where the wheelarch fades out near the bottom then the top line of the sill goes from there, It just looks right to me :)
It still needs a little patch on the bottom of the rear corner and then we can move to the engine bay :D
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Post by ImpManiac » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:28 am

Good work. :D Have you finished the repair to the lower rear wing corner when it tucks under the chassis rail at the very back of the car? It's not quite possible to see it in your pictures.

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Post by bazzateer » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:51 pm

One of my brothers had a Mk1 Escort in Roman Bronze - very nice when polished up.
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Post by impmann » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:02 pm

Hey James... I'm wondering if this car started out life as a Spring Special. AFAIK, Imp Supers were not normally painted Bronze with a cream interior - apart from Spring Specials. If it is, shame its missing its US spec bumpers...
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Post by lukesoanes » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:27 pm

hi james

great progress at this rate you'll have it sorted in no time!!

could i be cheeky and ask for some more pictures of the anti roll bar? ive been looking into fitting one on mine for a while now but i couldn't work out where to mount it and where to take the droplinks from. having seen the pic of yours i quite like the idea of using the shocker mounting bolt aswell but i'm still confused as to where the bar actually mounts? also could i be super cheeky and ask for some dimensions?

gonna keep my eye on this thread, its sure to be a cracking motor when its finished!

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Post by 19James » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:43 am

Thanks everyone :)
IM - No this still needs abit of metal welding in and another little bit behind the rear wheel in the inner wheel arch and then i can move to the engine bay to start work on that.
Tim - I don't think it is, the original colour is sandalwood gold, the bronze was sprayed on with rattle cans :roll:
Luke - Yep course you can i will have a look later. I have heard you have to run really soft springs, To counteract the extra stiffness of the roll bars i'm guessing.
Thanks everyone for the kind comments, the other side doesn't look half as bad but until we get started i don't really know :roll:
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Post by impmann » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:20 am

Yes, IIRC, the two colours for Spring Specials were Silver (a la Brindle's car) or Gold (same as Colin Gunn's one) - when you say gold it was quite a bronzey-gold... you can see it in the door jams and under the dashboard.

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Post by 19James » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:09 pm

impmann wrote:Yes, IIRC, the two colours for Spring Specials were Silver (a la Brindle's car) or Gold (same as Colin Gunn's one) - when you say gold it was quite a bronzey-gold... you can see it in the door jams and under the dashboard.

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Hi Tim
Is there any way of finding out wether it is a spring special or not by looking at the chassis number? I know alot of the trim was removed for racing purposes but there is a badge on the rear roof pillar that says Super Imp, I'm just wondering wether the spring specials had a different badge there?
I will upload some pictures soon if i can get photobucket to work properly :| :roll:
Cheers, James Imp004 Imp005
James Ibbotson
Stanced '67 Imp Super Spring Special (Ex pre '65 racer)
"Low n loud"
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Re: WBH 985E

Post by 19James » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:49 pm

Hi everyone
Seeing as i can't get photobucket to work properly i cant upload any pictures :(
Today i undid all the screws that hold the rear seat squab to the metal back plate and removed the seat so that it wouldn't get burnt when we weld up the spring turret. I also gave it a good clean and its come up really well.
On the rear corner we cut out the rust and i made up some templates and some metal was cut out, i made two templates, one for the inner skin of the rear corner and one for the outer.
The inner part is welded in, i just need to clean up the metal surrounding the outer skin so it can be welded in.
Cheers, James Imp004 Imp005
James Ibbotson
Stanced '67 Imp Super Spring Special (Ex pre '65 racer)
"Low n loud"
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