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Re: Dom's Sunbeam Stiletto Resto!

Post by bazzateer » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:39 am

Don't fill it Dom. Get the rot cut out and weld in new metal.
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Post by chris d » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:57 am

what baz says
and get a hair cut
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Post by ben-yates » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:18 pm

Nice car, i would try get it welded it will only come back to bight you in the ass

Not keen on the neon mate, think it makes the car look like a halfords special
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Post by Dom » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:49 pm

bazzateer wrote:Don't fill it Dom. Get the rot cut out and weld in new metal.
Sounds like a plan, how much will that cost me to get it welded ?

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I'm 16, I like shiny cool things that light up ;) but i do se your point!
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Post by Leumas » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:52 pm

ben-yates wrote:Nice car, i would try get it welded it will only come back to bight you in the ass

Not keen on the neon mate, think it makes the car look like a halfords special
I remember when I liked shiny things.....yesterday in fact....be a bit dull if all our imps were the same...LOL :lol:
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Post by ImpManiac » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:34 am

Dom, the welding ought not to be very expensive. Filler is no way to repair that damage. Welding is the only way, really. :)

For the record, I too don't 'get' neons in cars or bikes. But each to their own. :wink:

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Post by Dom » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:42 pm

Well Well well im afraid guys we have more shiny things that light up!

i have a feeling that less of you will 'Dislike' these tho!

Changes since last post:
More body work, sanding down and primering
Fitted 2 30CM white led strips underneath the rear seats, then wired them in so that they come on when the doors open
Fitted an alternator, and wired it all up

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Getting rid of the Cra* bits! Planning to get this welded up eventually
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Planning to get this welded up eventually
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Cils sanded down smith and primered
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Other side, Sanded down cils and applied primer
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And abit of a wash! i think its looking good :D
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URRRRG :( fan belts fan belts fan belts... so sick of them! in the last week I have bought 5 fan belts and tried about 10 in total to se if they fit! some of them have been to small, and simply the alternator wont go down low enough for it to fit on, and some of them were just so big that the fan belt rubs against the centre column of the cross bar next to the engine mount, after trying and trying again, I bought and fitted one that was 1135MM, and this seems to be working well, but i had to use a dremmle and a chisels to sand down the centre collum next to the engine mount so that the fan belt dose not rub against it! I cant explain why it has been such a night mare! but I have made about 5 trips to halfords and back to try and get the right size!

but at least now it is working :)

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this is the gap between the centre collum and the fan belt after grinding it down
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Ooooooo! new LED Strips ;) i wired them in so that they come on when you open the doors!
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It isnt as bright at this, it makes more of a cool glow :)
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That's all for now guys! more engine bay shots to come, I am going to be doing some more cable management with the new alternator cables and various other bits :)

Let me know what you think!

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Post by colin rooney » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:02 am

Dom you should not have to grid down the rear crossmamber is the belt running straight can you post a picture of the altenator in place from the top and a side shot

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Post by bazzateer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:06 am

Is the engine mount on the right way round? The wrong way will tend to pull the engine towards the transom which could cause your problem. A picture from above of the engine mount and engine itself may help?
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Post by Dom » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:29 am

Ok thanks guys, when I finish work I will talk the photos and post them on here

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Post by andy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:51 am

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Post by colin rooney » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:05 am

bazzateer wrote:Is the engine mount on the right way round? The wrong way will tend to pull the engine towards the transom which could cause your problem. A picture from above of the engine mount and engine itself may help?

as bazz says and do ou have the spacer in place i have never known of anyone having to do a mod like this before
can we have a picture of the engine mount from directly above it
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:16 am

Belt looks too long
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Post by james » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:20 am

I have one of those alternators, and have run it with a longer belt than that without interference to the crossmember.

2 things: 1) did you bolt the crossmember to the car with all 6 bolts, and 2) did you then put spacers in the gap between the engine and mount to stop the x-member being pulled in when you tightened the bolt? The only was I can think of that problem occuring is if the crossmember was tilted in at the top - possible if the lower mounting bolts are absent.
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Post by bazzateer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:49 am

bazzateer wrote:Is the engine mount on the right way round? The wrong way will tend to pull the engine towards the transom which could cause your problem. A picture from above of the engine mount and engine itself may help?
Engine mount should be this way round with a spacer between the mount and the engine:

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Post by andy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:46 pm

Hi all

Thanks for all the help Dom has been off to halfords 5 times so far and tried most of what they have in stock either too long or too short he currently has a Halfords HB1137a

I agree the belt does look a bit long can anyone confirm what length he should be looking for please it may be they didnt have that size in stock in Stroud

The belt does not actually touch but there is only about 2/3mm clear

The engine mount seems the right way round (as per baz pic)

The 6 bolts are in place on the cross member

As for the spacers not sure how big are they ? I assume they go between the mount and the engine bracket ? I dont think I have ever noticed them so they may not be there :oops:

Is this pic any better?

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Post by bazzateer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:03 pm

Your mount id the right way round but looking at the gap between the dizzy and the transon there do not appear to be any spacers fitted. You can see mine, it's the slightly rusty coloured bit between the mount and the engine, at a guess about 5mm thick. Can't see if yours is there due to the shadows!
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Post by GeoffFarthing » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:13 pm

When the oil cooler bracket is fitted there is a spacer of the same thickness required on the LH side. There is no other "Spacer" unless you are referring to the thick, thin and spring washers under the nut to the rear.
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Post by bazzateer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:16 pm

GeoffFarthing wrote:When the oil cooler bracket is fitted there is a spacer of the same thickness required on the LH side. There is no other "Spacer".
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Yes there is. It fits between the engine mount and the engine, with the long bolt going through it See second pic above). You're right about the oil cooler spacer, but that doesn't affect the fore/aft position of the engine in relation to the transom.
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Post by andy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:39 pm

Thanks Baz Looks like we have a spacer but it looks like our rubber mount is b**££ered :o

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Post by bazzateer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:44 pm

So it does. I've just repalced the one on LNK for a better s/h one from my spares as the rubber was fubarred as well (though not as bad as that!). Malcolm does the rubber bush on it's own or a refurbed mount complete with new bush with your old mount going back on exchange.
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Post by colin rooney » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:25 pm

andy wrote:Thanks Baz Looks like we have a spacer but it looks like our rubber mount is b**££ered :o

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Post by Dom » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:46 pm

i changed this engine mount a few months ago, i looked in the garage and found one that looked slightly better than the last one that was on their earlier, so I changed it to the one that is on the car atm, (seen in pic above) but I looked in the garage today and I found a nearly new one! obviously dad i am no good at finding dads hidden spares! ;)

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Gave it a touch up silver and black paint, and plan to fit it tomorrow because I ran out of time today!

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Removed that box, going to clean behind it tomorrow, I also stripped most of the black cable tape that was wrapped round the wiring loom in the engine bay, planning on getting some cable wrapping/sleeving stuff to tidy ALL the cables running along the top of the engine bay in to one, should make it look loads better!
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Thanks for all your help guys! I will update you on the progress tomorrow :)

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Post by ganderson888 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:22 am

Interesting problem with the engine mount, Dom I haven't seen one that bad before. :o

I'd suggest you slacken off, but not remove, the 2 transaxle mounting bolts to allow maximum movement of the engine when you fit it the replacement mounting. That way you'll get maximum clearance between the engine and transom.

Hope that helps and keep up the good work.

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Post by phatbob » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:17 am

ganderson888 wrote:Interesting problem with the engine mount, Dom I haven't seen one that bad before. :o

I'd suggest you slacken off, but not remove, the 2 transaxle mounting bolts to allow maximum movement of the engine when you fit it the replacement mounting. That way you'll get maximum clearance between the engine and transom.

Hope that helps and keep up the good work.

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Ditto what Graham said Dom, but once you've moved the engine/gearbox as far forward as they'll go, expect to have to also adjust the position of the gearstick base (three bolts bit) to get the gearstick back to vertical in neutral.
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Post by Dom » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:11 pm

Well today me and dad went about Sliding the engine and gear box back, and replacing the engine mount!

I put the car over the pit, and loosened the two bolts at the back of the gear box, and then jacked the engine up and removed the engine mount, we then pushed, and wobbled the engine trying to get it to move back! we ended up using a big heavy metal pole about an inch in dimaiter, and tried to prise/force the engine back by wedging this pole in against the engine and cross member, and then pulling back on it to push the engine back.

it was very hard to tell if the engine moved, but we managed to get the engine mount on and in place with two spacers in-between, one of them was in the photo shown above with the engine mount collapsed on it, and we also fitted another slightly smaller one next to it, we when screwed it all together loosely, and ran the engine in hope that it would vibrate, push back and sink in to place.

there is a small noticeable difference in the gap between the cross member / engine mount and the fan belt, but it inst massive! but none the less it is better, the gear box seemed to be nearly as far back as it would go.

all tightened up and fan belt made taught with 1/2 an inch of play we ran the engine and all seems allot better now! thanks for your help guys :)

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Thanks for all the help and advice guys! :)

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Post by ImpManiac » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:37 pm

Nice work, chaps. :wink: :D

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Post by ben-yates » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Dom wrote:I'm 16, I like shiny cool things that light up ;) but i do se your point!
Ey im only 20 ha, fair enough though mate
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Post by Mike Hanna » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:56 pm

Hi Dom. Have you checked the gearbox mounts are the correct way round ( side to side) as they are offset ? Or has the car had a shunt up the rear ? Mike
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Post by Dom » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:11 pm

ben-yates wrote:
Dom wrote:I'm 16, I like shiny cool things that light up ;) but i do se your point!
Ey im only 20 ha, fair enough though mate
Do you like cool things that light up ? and would you fit them to your imp ;)?

P.S Nice to se more imper's closer to my age! :)
Hi Dom. Have you checked the gearbox mounts are the correct way round ( side to side) as they are offset ? Or has the car had a shunt up the rear ? Mike
I am not sure mike! I will check next time I get a chance, thanks allot!

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Post by Dom » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:36 pm

More work has been done :)

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Wonder what could be going on here ;) ?
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Ooooooh more red :)
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all lit up :twisted:
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Cable tidying
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Nearly finished! hardest bit! this has taken so so long
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Speaker box nearly finished! :)
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More sanding down and primering :)
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New tweeters arrived today!
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Trying to be clever with a camera ;)

That's all for now guys, mum took the imp for a drive the other day and its running very well! just a little to rich, need to adjust the crabs abit, but I get confused on which way to turn them to turn them down ? people tell me its anti clockwise ? but is that from standing above them ? or from looking at them from bellow :S ? terry confusing... -_- I think I have turned them up twice once before ? that's from doing it anti clock wise from above the carbs ?

also been having a few problems with reverse, every time I went to put it in reverse gear it made abit of a grinding sound but it did go in to gear!?
went to do it again this morning and it seemed to have stop making the grinding noise! so will keep an eye on that

Thanks guys :)

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Post by rallyimp » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:18 am

Looking really good, hope both you and the car will be road legal for next years Imp 50 events
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Post by Leumas » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:05 am

Dom, where are you going to put the tweeters? how will you wire them in/connect them up? Just nosey, as I like the idea of a pair myself! Thanks Allan
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Post by Dom » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:04 pm

rallyimp wrote:Looking really good, hope both you and the car will be road legal for next years Imp 50 events
The car is road legal, dad is road legal, but sadly I have another 2 and a half months until I am 17! :( :(
My birthday is in early january so im hoping to pass in late febuary if possible! we will se :)
Leumas wrote:Dom, where are you going to put the tweeters? how will you wire them in/connect them up? Just nosey, as I like the idea of a pair myself! Thanks Allan
Here are the photos for you Leumas!

I bought these of eBay for £10, mainly because they also come with a back box to mount the tweets to the car which helps so much!
I am not sure how much you know about tweets, but the make the very high pitch sounds of the song, so it feels like there are speakers ware the tweets are.
For example in my imp I have 4 speakers all behind the front seats, so I bought tweets and mounted them in front of the front seats to make it sound like there are speakers in front of me, and oh my god dose it help! the sound quality is so much better! I really really recommend them! I don't think there is much to look for when buying them, but the more you pay the better quality tweets you get! I bought 150W tweets, again mainly because they came with the back box and because they were all I could afford! to wire them in, all you do is wire them in to the same wires as you did with the speakers. for example, if you have speakers in the front of your car, then you should wire your tweets in to the same cables as you did for the front speakers! other than that I have no idea which would be the best way of wiring them.

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so I was thinking ware to mount them! I didn't want to drill in to the doors, door pannals, door pockets, or the dash board!... so ware else was there to fit them?

Wheel arch! :D
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Drilled two holes threw the wheel arch, then put some small bolts threw, with a washer and nut
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Pushed in and fitting snug!

The sound system in my car is now bliss! even tho I have only spent around £50 on it! I am so over the moon with how good it sounds :D :D

hope this helps!

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Post by ImpManiac » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:07 pm

Great work, Dom! I like the red rear panel section. Looks good on your car. :wink: And those speakers seem to fit well too. The car's coming along really nicely! 8)

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Post by Leumas » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:03 pm

Dom, Re tweeter pics, Thank you so much...I am going to follow suit.......I have bought a cassette player and a disc payer...problem is I am struggling to find a place to mount them...stiill working om iyt..... Allan
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Post by Dom » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:18 pm

Leumas wrote:problem is I am struggling to find a place to mount them
Do you have a glove box ?

this thread i made MIGHT help ? have a read :)

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Re: Dom's Sunbeam Stiletto Resto!

Post by Leumas » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:23 pm

I do have a glove box, thanks, Dom, and I re-read your link. I think that is where they are going, best/only place - They will both fit in side by side, just have to fix them and stop them sliding about....Thanks Allan
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Re: Dom's Sunbeam Stiletto Resto!

Post by ImpManiac » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:24 pm

In my original 1973 Imp Super, I mounted my Blaupunkt stereo (out of my first car - a 1979 BMW 735i rust bucket special edition :lol: :wink: ) next to the heater switch on the right hand side of the steering column. I adapted some brackets that I had lying around. It was a good location for it and it was not in the way of my leg, as I had feared it might be. :)

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Re: Dom's Sunbeam Stiletto Resto!

Post by Leumas » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:38 pm

Good idea Paul, Unfortunately I have already put an auxiliary switch panel there to the right of the steering column....I didn't think through the stereo fitment then...it was awhile ago..That said If I can make up brackets I could mount onde of the units below the switch panel.....

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1966 Singer Chamois, forest green (green truck paint)
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