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My First Imp (First Sprint this Year!)

Post by pubcrawler » Fri May 11, 2012 7:02 am

I've competed in Hillclimb/sprints for the past 20 years in a Westfield, decided I wanted a change plus something with a propper roof. I've always liked Imps from a distance but last year I read an article in Practical Classics about renovating an Imp for road/competition and decided that was going to be my next car. Found one on e-bay for £1700 and fetched it from Norwich in Feb on my trailer. It is standard and quite good condition with only minor dents and scratches and no rot anywhere as far as I can see. Wasn't keen on the colour origionally but it is growing on me!
Not done much to it over the past couple of months, apart from sell my Westfied and all my Ford bits, this week started scraping all the underseal off and was pleasantly suprised to find a solid floor coated in what looks like red lead. Going to then paint it in "Black Eastwood Rust Encapsulator"
My plan is to sort out the suspension/interior first and then think about modified engine/gearbox later.
Will post more photo's etc as work progresses, Martin.

Edit......One thing I forgot to mention :roll: was that I was told by the owner that it had been used in a film called The Royals :?: , does anyone ever remember seeing the car or the film. Apparently it was a clone car as the one in the series got totalled in a train crash :o .
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Re: My First Imp

Post by classiccapsule » Fri May 11, 2012 7:50 am

Glad that you're under way. That colour is growing on me too!
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bornagain-imp » Fri May 11, 2012 8:27 am

Hi Martin,
I am a Westfield owner aswell 8) and a regular visitor to the Black country meet.
i allso bought an imp last year to restore and modify, going back to my youth because i had a brand new one in 1964 Imp001
You can see my westy and imp in the Newbies page 18,
I only live round the corner from you Kingstanding, may see you about.
Your car looks very nice and doesn't look to need much work, unlike mine which was found in a garage clearance where it had been put since 1978 and cost me £350 8)
Good luck with the car.
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Re: My First Imp

Post by pubcrawler » Fri May 11, 2012 9:28 am

Thanks for the offer of the springs Rod, have sent you a PM.
I shall be glad of any help/advice from members as I 've never owned one before. Just found a couple of photo's of my Westfield, didn't want to sell it but had to because I needed garage space for the Imp.
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Re: My First Imp

Post by kilty » Fri May 11, 2012 10:59 am

Welcome to the world of Imp Martin. That appears to be a sound and original looking car you've bought, nice one. Subtle shade I like it.

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Re: My First Imp

Post by ImpManiac » Fri May 11, 2012 1:44 pm

Welcome to the world of Imps and their differently-badged cousins. :mrgreen:

Your car looks very smart indeed. I too love the colour! 8) If you haven't already, you should start a Readers' Cars thread for your ride.

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Re: My First Imp

Post by Kinger » Fri May 11, 2012 1:46 pm

Hi Martin
Welcome to Imping....love the colour...very retro
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bazzateer » Fri May 11, 2012 3:56 pm

It was the TV series 'The Royal', a Heartbeat spin-off.
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Re: My First Imp

Post by pubcrawler » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:14 pm

Two good jobs done to-day :D , fitted a replacement inlet manifold (see other post) and changed the gear lever ball. :)
I can now get any gear anytime rather than holding up traffic trying to FIND A GEAR :o . What a great difference for very little money...thanks again to Malcolm A. 8)
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bornagain-imp » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:29 am

pubcrawler wrote:Two good jobs done to-day :D , fitted a replacement inlet manifold (see other post) and changed the gear lever ball. :)
I can now get any gear anytime rather than holding up traffic trying to FIND A GEAR :o . What a great difference for very little money...thanks again to Malcolm A. 8)
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Nice to see you are getting to grips with the imp :D
I did one big job yesterday, put the imp on dollies and towed it out of the garage :D took a pic then spun it round and put it back in, can start on the other side now :roll:
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Re: My First Imp

Post by pubcrawler » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:00 am

bornagain-imp wrote: Hi Martin.
Nice to see you are getting to grips with the imp :D
I did one big job yesterday, put the imp on dollies and towed it out of the garage :D took a pic then spun it round and put it back in, can start on the other side now :roll:
Looking forward to seeing it on the road soon then Rod :o .
Just been to W Brom in mine, stalled at Great Barr lights :lol: and it refused to start for ages :roll: . Don't think the other drivers were too happy, seems to be suffering from fuel vapourisation? Starts OK when cold but when hot.............. :wink:
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Re: My First Imp

Post by pubcrawler » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:25 pm

Thought I'd post an update :o , although I'd checked for rot before buying I was convinced I was going to find some on closer investigation back home :lol: .
Glad to report that the floor is in great condition for a 47 year old car 8) . Spent last few weekends scraping off all loose underseal from wheel arches and floor to reveal what looks like red oxide :) .
Using a selection of paints/sprays to protect the underside now that 3/4 of a wine box of underseal and sound deadening stuff has been removed :o .
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bornagain-imp » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:32 am

Using a selection of paints/sprays to protect the underside now that 3/4 of a wine box of underseal and sound deadening stuff has been removed :o .[/quote]


Hi Martin,
Just think with all that weight loss THE EXTRA SPEED :D :D :lol: :lol:
Did the front Monte's make much difference to the height?

Not done much on mine this week, sorting out the fence in the back garden before my hols next week {more holidays, great this retirement} :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: My First Imp

Post by pubcrawler » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:19 am

Extra lower front and Monte rear springs just arrived from Malc, good service 8) . Should make it sit even better, spax shockers also ordered yesterday...........must have doubled the value of the Imp now :lol: :o :lol:

More pictures of the interior, about to start wire brushing/painting the front suspension now :) , yes I like this retirement, could do with a few more hours in the day though :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bornagain-imp » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:47 am

Hi Martin,
on your interior shot of the panel over the engine, is the flat panel welded on top of the ribbed section or is it a repair panel?
my ribbs go all the way to the back, the person who originaly had it cut a 10x6 slot out, the only thing i can think of its purpose was to get easy access to the rear spark plugs :o :? i'll have to make a piece for that :x

your getting really stuck in now 8)
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Post by pubcrawler » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:01 pm

Yes it is a welded plate :o but looks like it is origonal :)
The better weather has encouraged me :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by GURNSIMPS » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:15 pm

Hi, the welded plate you speak of is original,older imps were made stronger than newer imps,more spot welds and the plate you speak of,money saving in later years saw less welds and thinner paint amonst other things... :)
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Post by pubcrawler » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:02 pm

GURNSIMPS wrote:older imps were made stronger than newer imps
That's great news, thanks for taking the time to enlighten us. :D
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Re: My First Imp

Post by james » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:15 pm

There are reinforcement plates on the top of the front inner wings on the earlier cars that were left off the later ones as well.
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Re: My First Imp

Post by ImpManiac » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:26 pm

GURNSIMPS wrote:Hi, the welded plate you speak of is original,older imps were made stronger than newer imps,more spot welds and the plate you speak of
Does this plate make much difference to the strength? I mean, is it noticeable? I was planning to remove the plate in mine because I am wary of corrosion going on underneath. I could remove it really carefully and replace it afterwards - or make something to replace it - but the same problem might occur in the future. :roll: Opinions?
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Re: My First Imp

Post by bornagain-imp » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:53 pm

Thanks for the info on the rear shelf rib plate :D
You learn something new every day, always someone with that extra bit of knowledge :roll:


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Post by tomcat » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:55 pm

bornagain-imp wrote:Thanks for the info on the rear shelf rib plate :D
You learn something new every day, always someone with that extra bit of knowledge :roll:


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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:28 pm

My Singer has this plate , I too was worried about rot underneath , so i removed all the sound deadening around it and poured wax oil between the plate and the ribbed floor , that was 23 years ago and its still perfect
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Re: My First Imp

Post by ImpManiac » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:37 pm

I was wondering about doing just that with Waxoyl or Dinitrol - or some sort of rust killer fluid, followed by cavity wax. Thank you, Noddy. I have options now! :mrgreen:

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Post by pubcrawler » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:30 am

Front suspension arms :o (think that's what they're called) all sanded, checked, painted and rustproofed 8) .
Next job is to fit 4 new adjustable Spax shockers and shortened springs :shock: .
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Post by gnatman » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:46 pm

Noddy wrote:My Singer has this plate , I too was worried about rot underneath , so i removed all the sound deadening around it and poured wax oil between the plate and the ribbed floor , that was 23 years ago and its still perfect
I have removed this plate on mine - not an easy task as 5 spot welds on every rib :shock:

It had a small amount of corrosion/pin holes so bit the bullet and got it out. BARE metal on the inside on BOTH the plate and shelf. Amazed it has lasted 47 years
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Re: My First Imp (update)

Post by pubcrawler » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:46 pm

New spax and shortened springs fitted :o , sits at a nice height now 8) . Just "rattlecanned" the interior to make it presentable for the Llangollen 60's show on Sunday 8) , hope we (me, Mrs Pubcrawler and my Imp) make it :roll: ...........only driven her 20 miles maximum since purchased :o .
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Post by bks974c » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:02 pm

Looks good in the photos, enjoy.

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Post by bornagain-imp » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:20 pm

Looking good Martin 8) you are getting stuck in :roll:
start on mine again when i get back from sunny Somerset :D
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Re: My First Imp (update)

Post by ImpManiac » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:10 pm

Looking great, Martin! :mrgreen: I too hope that the car proves reliable for you and that you have a great trip. :wink:

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Re: My First Imp (update)

Post by kilty » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:09 pm

See there are 2 holes on your wishbones, did it have check straps fitted, or anti-roll bar maybe?
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Post by pubcrawler » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:08 pm

kilty wrote:See there are 2 holes on your wishbones, did it have check straps fitted, or anti-roll bar maybe?
Yes it had straps fitted, didn't re-fit them...........should I :?:
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Re: My First Imp (update)

Post by impmann » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:22 am

If it had straps fitted, it sounds like it had previously had Montes - the straps are there to prevent excessive travel on the wishbone and that prevents the damper exceeding the length of the spring. If fitted with standard dampers (these have colletts which retain the spring platform) this can make the colletts fall out at full extension and let the suspension collapse.
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Post by pubcrawler » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:23 am

So because I have fitted Spax adjustables for lowered suspension :shock:
http://www.spaxdirect.com/product_info. ... cts_id=629
along with extra 2" lower Montes I shouldn't have need for these straps because the damper shouldn't exceed the length of the spring.
Am I reading this correctly?
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Post by impmann » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:27 am

Sounds logical! 8)
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Re: My First Imp (Heater out!!)

Post by pubcrawler » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:38 pm

Whilst removing the heater pipe the solid pipe from the matrix became loose :evil: . So nothing for it but to remove the lot :o and I've now found where small drops of water were coming from on my last outing :roll: .
Hoping a friend (who used to fit central heating systems) can re-solder it for me :shock: . If not I'll be back on this forum asking for help :roll: .
Whilst apart I'm doing away with the on/off valve so have "aralited" the end so as not too have leaks and also still gives me a pipe of the correct diameter to connect the return hose :D .
Why is the heater mounted on the slant ?
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Re: My First Imp (Heater out!!)

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:43 pm

I had a leaky early valve and solved it thus

Remove the metal end plate and all the guts
Get an old pre 74 2 pence piece , these are pure copper
File it down slightly so it fits in the recess the mount came from
Totally clean the contact surfaces and Solder in place with a blow lamp and lots of flux
Worked on mine for over 15 years til i changed the heater foe a later one.
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Re: My First Imp (Heater out!!)

Post by pubcrawler » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:52 pm

Noddy wrote:I had a leaky early valve and solved it thus

Remove the metal end plate and all the guts
Get an old pre 74 2 pence piece , these are pure copper
File it down slightly so it fits in the recess the mount came from
Totally clean the contact surfaces and Solder in place with a blow lamp and lots of flux
Worked on mine for over 15 years til i changed the heater foe a later one.
That's good info Noddy 8) , I have a jar full of coins so it'll find me something to do to-night instead of drinking :o :lol: :o
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Re: My First Imp (Heater out!!)

Post by colin rooney » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:05 pm

Noddy wrote:I had a leaky early valve and solved it thus

Remove the metal end plate and all the guts
Get an old pre 74 2 pence piece , these are pure copper
File it down slightly so it fits in the recess the mount came from
Totally clean the contact surfaces and Solder in place with a blow lamp and lots of flux
Worked on mine for over 15 years til i changed the heater foe a later one.
Great tip from noddy but we must all promise not to give out his where abouts as the boys in blue may well want to have a word in his shell like for defacing old coins :lol:

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