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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by capriman » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:37 pm

That looks like Rover nightfire red - i always wanted to do my Imp that colour but never got round to it.

13" diamond cut superlites, some tinted glass and the later wide chrome strips with the centres painted white and it would look the business infact forget what I just said I might go and paint one of mine like that now :D

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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by stuartrf » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:54 pm

ist not a rover colour im not going to say the colour as i want it to be the only imp out there like it
for the wheels i will be using the 13 inch wellers im having banded up to 7 j
i am going to have a nice big thick white stripe going down the sides getting bigger towards the rear
i havent really thought about tinting the windows but it would look the muts nuts if i had them dont in red
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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by stuartrf » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:03 pm

hi guys

quick update
i started stripping off the underseal from the engine bay totally grim slow job but needs to be done pleased to report that so far it is totally solid
i have a bad feeling that at least one of the wheel arched might be beyond saving so i am considering buying some grp ones and modding them to they quite subtle
ill hopefully get some pics up later
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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by stuartrf » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:19 pm

spent this evening stripping some more undersael off :shock: will look into getting the car blasted
good news though the front suspention is allmost off i just need to undo the top damper bolts and it should fall off :D
strangly it came apart easyer than the suspention on the daily even though it hasent been on the road for 10 years and the suspention on my daily was rebuilt 2 years a go
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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by impmann » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:22 pm

/\ Sounds like you need to invest in some coppaslip, Stu. 8)
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Re: byb610b-benji a change of colour

Post by stuartrf » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:43 pm

front suspention is off :D was surprisingly easy
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im pleased to report it apears to be compleatly solid
so the car is no longer a rolling shell and is just a shell :D
ive still got plenty of work to do including flipping it on its side and removing all the underseal and sorting out some of the few rusty places

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Re: byb610b-benji stripped suspention

Post by ImpManiac » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:32 pm

The car is looking good, Stu. :D Good work.

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Re: byb610b-benji stripped suspention

Post by stuartrf » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:04 pm

ive spent most of the week stripping underseaal off :roll: nasty job but it looks like it has done its job well and the floor including the engine bay and 3 out of the 4 wheel arches are solid
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i decided that it would be a good idea if i got the car as high so i have staked 3 wheels and tyres under each corner
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fortunatly only the engine bay was redone in seam sealer it is taking a bit of time to get off but again it has done a good job protecting the car
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most of the floor now stripped of underseal i will usr a wire wheel when the car is flipped on its side to make sure there is no rust at all
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the one and only rotton wheel arch that i will replace
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by ImpManiac » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:14 pm

Great work, Stu. That is a really unpleasant chore. You have my sympathy! :?

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by stuartrf » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:03 pm

this weekend benji has been a bit neglected cause i was fitting a replacement engine to my other imp but i managed to get some work done
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fuel tank and pedals out
i also managed to get most of the dash out just got the card left to remove
hopefully i should beable to get it flipped on its side next weekend so i can carry on removing the underseal and start welding the holes up
im also toying with the ides of fitting a front rad as this would be the perfect time to get it all cut out and mounting brachets made
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by ben » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:47 pm

Hi Stu you might want to think abut modding those wheel arches now as well so You can access the dampers easier and protect it from the muck in the years to come, you can see what I mean on this photo of mine

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let me know if you want a hand flipping your imp over onto its side.

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by stuartrf » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:49 pm

hi ben cheers for the pic i was unsure if you could do that to a mk1 because of the extra metal on the front inner arches
but i will crack on with it
any idea what thickness metal was used?
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by Bevan IMP » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:56 pm

Hi Stuart,

Leave the inner arches as they are, all that work just so you can change dampers !!!!!!!

Its probably weaker with them cut out........

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:00 pm

Bevan IMP wrote:Hi Stuart,

Leave the inner arches as they are, all that work just so you can change dampers !!!!!!!

Its probably weaker with them cut out........

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by stuartrf » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:58 pm

hi guys

looks like the car will be getting flipped on its side this sunday

i supose your right the only real benifit is that no mud will get up there and sieze the nuts but if i use plenty of coper grease they should be ok
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by ChrisBenoy » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:30 pm

I had always assumed it was done to stop the bodywork rusting out rather than the nuts being hard to shift?
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by TAGORAMAN » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:50 pm

If you make the front inner wing mod..it is advisable to weld a closing piece on to the other side of the h bracket this way it adds strength and also stops the crud getting to the top mount.
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by bazzateer » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:04 pm

I'm guessing they're not finished in Ben's pic.
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by ImpManiac » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:29 pm

bazzateer wrote:I'm guessing they're not finished in Ben's pic.
Correct. I am going to do this to my Chamois. It keeps the shock absorber mounting nuts nice and clean, as well as eliminating a rust trap.

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by Duk » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:43 pm

I've just done this to my newest one, the top of the h brackets were filled with crud and another couple of years would have completely rusted through :!: I don't understand why they didnt just build them with the mount enclosed on the inside in the first place :?:
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by ben » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:38 am

:) Yep cheers Baz , Duk Chris and IM the crud muck problem is the reason for this and yes it wil get a bit of extra strengthening once I get round to sorting out the brackets for the front mounted rad. 8) need some lessons in Welding before hand tho... oh and the equipment to do it. :lol:
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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by chris » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:54 am

Yep silly not to do it if your modding an imp no water trap is always a good thing!

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by Duk » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:37 pm

This is on my super that has completely solid floors & arches, repaired before (badly) on the inside by a previous owner, probably wouldnt have ever got this bad if they had done the mod in the first place :roll:

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by stuartrf » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:56 pm

i had a visit from ben this morning :D he came round to do this to my new car
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im so happy we finally got it on its side it is soo much easyer to clean up the underneath
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most of the floor so far is solid
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apart from this :o
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i know it really isnt that bad fortunatly all the important camptive nuts are stil totally solid so i just needs a plate welding over the top
flipping the can also gave me a chance to have alook at the passenger side as this was the worse side of the car
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loverly filler and fibreglass combo in the rear wing
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nice bodge ally plate rivited to the inner arch
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even though there is a load more work then i was exspecting to do im not rally disheartend about it as its still twice as solid as my daily was lol
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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by ben » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:10 pm

:o Wow you made some real head way on that floor pan after i left 8) keep it up Stu.

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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by stuartrf » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:12 pm

yer it was easy burning most of it off then using the grinder really shifts it
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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by ImpManiac » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:28 pm

That's a lot of work for a day, Stu! 8) Great stuff! So it'll be ready for paint by... Thursday? :wink:

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Re: byb610b-benji underseal removal

Post by james » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:51 pm

stuartrf wrote: Image
i know it really isnt that bad fortunatly all the important camptive nuts are stil totally solid so i just needs a plate welding over the top
Will you be chopping out all the rust and re-building it layer by layer? It looks like the vertical strengthening bit is probably a bit thin to weld to. I wouldn't want you to get it on the road and then have to do it all over again in a couple of years.

Looking good though - mostly cosmetic rust by the looks of it, which is always nice. Hope it all goes well.
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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by stuartrf » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:58 pm

right i got a bit bored today so i started to make a repair section for the floor
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to fit here
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not to bad for a first attempt but i might make up annother not i know what to exspect making the bent section
or i might jsut keep working on this one to get it to fit well
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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by ben » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:18 pm

Hi Stu, To Quote blown imp it's time for some "C.A.D " Cardboard aided design :lol: :lol: get some empty cereal packets and get making a template.
I need to do the same to close off the top of my front suspension mounts.

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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by ImpManiac » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:40 pm

Stu, I'd bash seven shades out of the one you've already made. :D Make that sucker fit! When I saw the corrosion on your Imp's floor, the panel I imagined making looks exactly like the one you made! :mrgreen: Maybe there is hope for when I attack mine with the welder in the future. :P

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Re: byb610b-benji hello rust

Post by stuartrf » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:32 pm

well i gave the passenger side of my imp a bit of a dig with a screw driver today :| not too happy with what i found :(
rear 1/4 went from this
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to this with the help of a screw driver and a chissel and hammer
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the fromt wheel arch rear section went from this
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to this using no other tools than a screwdriver!!!
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i am also goign to replace the sill as i managed to get my phone inside to take a photo and saw this
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the rear where the lights go is starting to worry my now
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there is a few small holes but the area between the lights isnt the right shape so it might have had an accident at some point :cry:

so i am abit fed up with it atm as there is just soo much more work than i thought there would be
but on the bright side i know im not goign to bodge it back together and the only thing going back into that car is metal with the least amount of filler possable
ps any one know what repair section i need for pic 4
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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by colin rooney » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:39 pm

If your going to do it right you will need .2 full sills best type is express steel ,2 front sill extensions express dont do these on there own but if you buy a front arch repair it come on it ,2 rear sill extensions and 2 lower rear corners all express panels ,malcolm does stock some of express panels ,you may also fint that the inner sill will need repairs when you undo the outer sills ,tools you will need is a few spot weld removing drill bits try ebay i get mine on there ,

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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by stuartrf » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:16 pm

cheers for the help col i will look out for some of the spot weld drill bits
ive already got a rear 1/4 and have started to weld up the rear inner wing
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all rust cut out^
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so hopefully i should beable to get the rear 1/4 fitted up tomorow and welded on later this week
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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by ImpManiac » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:35 pm

Neatly done. Did you make the repair section or use a bought one?

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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by stuartrf » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:51 pm

i made the repair section the inner wing is now solid and i have started working on the inner arch then when thats dont i can get the outer wing welded on :D
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quick question when i cut the sill off will i have to brace the car to stop things from flexing or should it be ok
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Post by basil imp » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:17 pm

stuartrf wrote:i made the repair section the inner wing is now solid and i have started working on the inner arch then when thats dont i can get the outer wing welded on :D
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quick question when i cut the sill off will i have to brace the car to stop things from flexing or should it be ok
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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by stuartrf » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:40 pm

ok well it is mainly the sill that is rotton the arches both will need replacing but other than that all structial bits seem solid so i will get some old metal pipes and brace the floor where would the best place be to fit the braces?

i jsut went out to the car in hope that i will find the wings are solid as a bit of a mojo boost sure they are solid but they are quite dented and full of filler
:( tomorow i will go down to machine mart and look at dent pullers
so if any one can offer my some sort of mojo boost it will be quite welcome atm :)
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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

Post by bungi » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:10 pm

could these help?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hillman-Imp-front ... 23100f8cac

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Re: byb610b-benji damn thats not good!

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bungi wrote:could these help?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hillman-Imp-front ... 23100f8cac

and i could collect them for you ther not too far from me and get the sent through the imp post or collected at the national :D
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