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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... MK 1 binnacle help needed pls

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if you can try and find some old bulb holders or nos ones as new ones are poo
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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... MK 1 binnacle help needed pls

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Cheers Stu that would be greatly appreciated 8) 8)
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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... Drilling out busted bolts

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Righty ho, work continues on the underside of the car Stu came over and welded up the small holes in the Cill and floor 8) I now only have one smallish area to cut out and let in some new metal. which leads me to ask where do you guys buy your sheet steel from? and what gauge should I be looking at for the floor?
When I removed the cross member two bolt heads sheared off :evil: so I started to drill them out and re tap the holes for 3/8th bolts. the bolts must be made of some super strong metal as it took 4hrs just to get one done, tried to use an easy out on them but had no joy. anyone got a good brand of drill bits they can recommend from past experience of drilling out bolts? I was using tungsten Hella bits but had little luck with them.
also re tapped all threads across bottom of the car as they were full of rust bolts go in a treat now. if you havn't got a tap and die set I cant recommend them enough.
Next question when protecting the underside of your cars, what products have you used layer by layer before the final coat of under-seal. I was thinking of going
1 rust buster
2 red oxide
3 Hammerite
4 POR 15 or waxoyle under-seal

will try and get some photos up soon.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... Drilling out busted bolts

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Hi Ben

Going to be using POR15 but not used it yet so can't comment but reading the instructions it needs to be applied directly to the bare steel after preparation not over other products. You can paint over it if you wish.

If the metal is rust free I would recommend an etch primer as the base as it doesn't chip and over paint with the paint of your choice.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... Drilling out busted bolts

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cheers Scott, I already used a rust converter on the bare metal called Rust buster it quite amazing and gives a good black waterproof finish you can see the results earlier on in this thread when I used it on some rusty stub axels .

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... Drilling out busted bolts

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YAY broken bolts all out and holes re tapped, I bought a set of DeWalt extreme 2 HSS bits to replace the other HSS bits that seemed to be made of fromage. :lol:
The Dewalt bits were amazing they just scythed their way through the high tensile bolts where as the others just got hot then snapped.
The underneath is now painted in POR15 and will be painted in POR 15 chassis black early tomorrow morning I can then start putting the suspension back together again. 8) Will try and get some pics up tomorrow.
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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... DeWalt to the rescue

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2nd coat of POR15 on........ blimmin good stuff 8) 8) just wear gloves when you apply :oops:
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photos of underneath
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And I got the new powder coated cross member on 8)
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sorry about quality of photees not great light in the garage :(

Right some questions ..... do you think I should now put some under seal over the top of the POR15 or should I just put a top coat of chassis black over it?

now to rebuild the suspension.... just got to save up and buy some shocks

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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Hi Ben

Think you need to read the instructions re the use of POR15. If exposed to sunlight it reacts - not sure how and needs to be over coated, however because of its super smooth surface most paints won't stick to it so will chip/flake off easily. They do a prime coat which is an adhesion primer which allows a top coat to be used over the hardened POR15.

I would use an underseal as this will help with sound deadening and protect against stonechips, I am looking for some of the underseal used in new cars to use on my car but have not yet decided on which one yet.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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cheers Scott will look at the website instructions for it tomorrow.

Edit... from todays research the general concensus seems to be that you can over paint/ spray the POR15 with underseal but best to use POR 15 chassis black paint before the undercoat , plus you should rough up the POR15 rust coat paint first with 600 grit paper as it will help with the adhesion of next coat.

right going to be painting with chassis black when I get home then.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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hi ben
looking really good mate
how well did thoes welds grind down?
did yuou need to grind it down on the inside at all?

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From you floor pan pictures, it appears your car is a super early 1963 mk1, which would have had a pneumatic throttle. I'd imagine your plans for the car will need a cable for the accel, so I would do the modifications to fit one before you finish painting the floor
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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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Cheers for the heads up Jeff 8) Stu the welds seem to be nice and flat on the interior so that has saved a bit of grinder time :lol: Will prob need some welding services from you soon if thats OK Food and beer tokens waiting I will also get the gas Canisters in.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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yer thats fine mate just let me know when
did you find any more on the floor or is it just the one patch by the gear leaver?
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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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slight hole on inner wheel arch and a couple on the floor close to the cill but I am going to chop those out and make a small patch to be welded in. 8)

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... POR 15 GOOD STUFF

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looking at getting some Konis for the scorpion but cant seem to find a supplier in the UK anyone bought some new ones recently? If I cant get Konis probably be Avos or Gaz, I have Spax on the other imp Which I dont mind but have nothing to compare to so it would be good to feel the difference of an equally good brand.

Also secured a little bit of money recently so am getting a 1040 built :twisted: for this car.

When my hangover abates I will go and put another layer of underseal on the bottom of the car.

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Re: Hillman scorpion saloon..... Konis supplier help please and

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Ben

Moose and I have both had recon Konis built by Sportsline http://www.sportslinesuspension.com/
As a result of this they have all the measurements to make up brand new Imp Koni shockers to order and at a very good price.
Talk to Graham

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Re: Hillman scorpion front grills?

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Okay so there Has not been much of an update on the Scorpion for a while and I am sure I will get a drubbing from you all at he National due to the lack of activity :roll: BUT i have just secured some funds that mean that the engine (1040) is being built and the suspension bits and bobs are secured 8) 8)
Over the past couple of months I have not been able to take my mind off the Imps front grill :roll: bear with me... I keep looking at modern cars front grills and their shapes and sizes. Soooo has any one tried fitting a modern front grill to an imp? I saw a small Toyota one today that I thought that with a little bit of jiggerey pokery might fit alright 8) Ok so the standard imp one isnt too bad but for a front rad car it might be COOLER to have a modern one. let more air pass through etc.
Thoughts ideas please :wink:

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Re: Hillman scorpion front grills?

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Maybe take the Imp grille with you to a breaker's yard (when did they stop being scrap yards? :? ) and see what grilles are the right basic shape etc?
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Like your way of thinking Baz :twisted: that hadnt crossed my mind DO'H :lol: :lol: 8) Honestly all that thinking and I hadnt thought of that :lol: :lol: :lol:
see that is what the forum is for Simples solutions :roll:

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You could do what James (revracing) has done with his caledonian, and replace the front grille with a mesh insert?

i admit its what i'm planning to do!

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Nice archive photo of the Scorpion on page 34 of Impressions (Aug 2013).
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I did Petulas underside in POR 15 then gave a coating of underseal , spray on , seemed to do the job well but time will tell.
Good stuff ,that POR 15
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bazzateer wrote:Nice archive photo of the Scorpion on page 34 of Impressions (Aug 2013).
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