PES 989J... "The Pest" ....in primer

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Post by colimp66 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:31 pm

Scott,
It must have been the rough shipbuilders that cut it out originally with a burning torch back in 1970 so it is, authentic. :lol: be the only part of the car that is..

Had a few hours in the garage today so slotted the engine in once again to check the airbox fitment now its all welded up along with the air filter I will be using.
Also thinking of where the oil cooler will go. Possibly on the opposite to where a Sport would have it I'm thinking.
Brackets will need to be made.. :roll:
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Post by yoeddynz » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:50 am

At a quick glance that looks like some futuristic techy item from one of the Alien films :-)
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Post by Cliff Pountney » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:47 am

Colin,

What are your running for engine mounts? I used Land Rover panhard rod bushes. With these there is nowhere near enough compliance and most of the vibration and harshness is being transmitted straight into the body. Over the winter I will rework it with some more compliant mounts.

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Post by colimp66 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:20 am

Cliff,
I am using MG TF T type front engine mounts from 1950-55, one either side onto the chassis rails and at the front where the gearbox mount is on a normal Imp I have adapted Fiesta gearbox mounts.
I can't tell how effective they are as the engine has never run in the car unfortunately.

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Good to see your using your car and fettling as you go. 8)

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Post by tiker » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:12 am

Nice to see your still at it , I think you started your imp about the same time as I did and we are still going ,life gets in the way hope will finish about the same time think we are on the home stretch now , good luck with the build it going to fly when you get it started
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Post by colimp66 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:31 am

Hi Gary,
Yes , I am like you still at it in between life getting in the way and having to work which seems to hold me back from finishing the car I bought over 10 years ago now. :o :shock:
Doesn't help that I kept changing things instead of keeping it standard or simple but then again it may not have mad e one bit of difference either :lol:

Once I get it painted I will feel I m on the home straight or at least see the end of the long tunnel.
Keep at it with yours and good luck.

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Re: PES 989J... "The Pest" ...Preparation for paint

Post by colimp66 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:42 pm

A wee whilst since I have updated The Pest on here as it has been a wee whilst since I have been near it as been busy with wok and life. It always seems to get in he way.
So for the last few years I've always thought this was the year I would get some paint on the car but it has never happened. Monday I made a move to get the more of a reality by picking up a framework from John Ross so I can build a make shift spray booth in a farmers barn and possibly get it painted this year!!
So far a space has been cleared in said barn and the framework erected..
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This was achieved today with my son helping out. We wrapped the framework, made up a door and an area for the filters to be placed next to it before painting the floor white.
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It looks like the new forum is working withme today.. Whoohoooo!! Chuffed with that.

Big thank you to John for loaning me the framework so I can have The Pest painted.
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Post by tiker » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:47 pm

Well done col I was going to buy a large gazebo that will just fit in the Garage anything to keep the dust out if you could shows where the air filter goes in and fan out that would be a help when building mine, can you post photos if possible
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Post by colimp66 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:19 pm

Will do Gary,
I have ordered filters today so will post photos once I have them fitted.

Gave the floor another coat of white to make sure it is sealed today. Once back home I went in the garage and mounted the oil cooler to the engine frame.
Hoses still need to be made up but now I can figure out how long they need to be.
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Post by The Nun » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:36 am

Will it be an oil cooler or an oil warmer though so close to the exhaust?
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Post by 617sqn » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:29 am

I thought that too, especially with the way that Imp aerodynamics work :o

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Post by colimp66 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:47 am

Is it any different from how Rootes placed the Imp oil cooler though?
Behind a hot engine and also above the exhaust area?
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I have space for ducting to flow air from the area where the radiator once sat.

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Post by colimp66 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:40 pm

Not much done with The Pest this weekend as I needed to catch up at work on Sunday but today I headed to the farm where I have been making up a spray booth.
More or less complete apart from needing to order more filters as I feel like more will be better.
I take filters x3 at the front of the booth.
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At the opposite corner to the rear of the booth I decided to make it 4 filters.
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Behind the outlet filters I made up a box that is attached to the extractor fan. Had a wee trial with the fan switched on and it seems to pull in the sides of the booth well.
They do need to be fixed to the base a bit better but chuffed with the results.
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Post by johnh875 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:09 am

Nice setup! Perhaps 4 in, 3 out might help the sucking-the-sides-in issue?
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Post by tiker » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:26 am

Looks good col what size of extractor fan are you using ?
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Post by colimp66 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:33 am

John,
You could well be correct there about the inbalance of the air flow in and out. Unfortunately I can't fit another to the intake. Not as much of a worry as it may look as the ballooning you see is where the car will enter the booth later next week hopefully and will be properly sealed up as it isn't at the moment. I may also put in some uprights to support the"wall" from ballooning as that is the worst part as it isn't tied or taped down at the edges.

Gary,
I am using a 300mm extractor and the filters are these
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Post by Cliff Pountney » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:50 pm

Colin,

Probably too late to change your design but why not blow air in rather than suck it out? That way the sides blow away from the car and clean air will be blown out of any leaks rather than dusty air being drawn in.

It might also be worth considering explosions as they could ruin your day....
Lights would be better on the outside but you may need more to get the same illumination.
Also you are drawing out the solvent laden air over a fan which probably has spark making brushes. Maybe that's another reason to blow the air in.

That said I just sprayed mine in the garage with regular celly paint and thinners and I didn't blow myself up :D I just had the doors front and back open and a regular office fan blowing air in. I did buy a decent 3m mask and spent the minimum possible time in there whilst the thinners were evaporating.

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Post by colimp66 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:17 am

Cliff,

Good point about blowing air in rather than sucking it out like I have it at the moment. Not that difficult to change as all I would need to do is reverse the fan as it is not fixed in a way that would make it difficult.
I may look at it when I am next up at it. Cheers.

Explosions are a worry of course and something I have thought of but like you I have also painted the underneath of the car in my garage with the door open.. Oops!! More reason possibly to have the fan reversed.. Mmmm.. more to think about and try.

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Re: PES 989J... "The Pest" .... On the move...

Post by colimp66 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:33 pm

Today was the day The Pest moved further than the driveway in 10 years, not under its own steam unfortunately.
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On the same trailer that delivered it home
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On its way
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It's new home for a month or two
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Chuffed to have it now in a place I can open the doors easily and walk around it without having to breathe in. Paint prep will begin next week hopefully.
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Post by yoeddynz » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:40 pm

It looks like a toy car in those last two pictures! It's the background I think. A toy car that's showing some of the die-cast metal.

Plus 1 for blowing air in. So long as you draw that air through a filter.
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Post by bks974c » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:01 pm

Looking forward to the updates :D

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Post by colimp66 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:32 pm

The Pest is now settled in its new home and on a le stands with the wheels removed so they can be painted and fitted with some new tyres later.
Tonight I was masking up the underneath of the body as that along with the steering and suspension has all been painted a very long time ago and I'm not wanting overespray landing on any of that. The windows were all masked, some more filler applied, only to be rubbed of later. Amazing what you miss trying to do this I. A single garage. The bigger brighter space that it is in now makes a HUGE difference.
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Still some masking to complete but getting closer to paint.
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Re: PES 989J... "The Pest" .... Etching it..

Post by colimp66 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:23 pm

Today was the day paint or the start of the painting process was started with the etch primer being applied to The Pests flanks. :D
Got started at around 10.30 this morning and with final filling, masking up and panel wiping I got some etch primer on around 6.30/7.00pm this evening.
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Big bonus is the ghetto spray booth worked a treat with pulling the fumes and over spray away well with best of all no explosion :shock: :lol:
Tomorrow will be filler primer day all goi g well.
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Post by tiker » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:30 am

Booth looks to be working well nice to see you have plenty of space to work bodywork is the toughest to crack good luck
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Post by colimp66 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:04 pm

Thanks Gary,
Yeh, the booth seems to work well with clearing the overspray well enough so I can see what I am doing and is a vast improvement space wise compared to a single garage.
Well chuffed with how we it works. :D

Today I got the whole car and all its doors, bonnet, engine cover and a pair of wheels in primer.
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Post by bks974c » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:31 pm

Looks very good, didn't see the bonnet stay or the rear suround on the body but maybe just not photographed.

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Post by colimp66 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:38 pm

:lol: Very observant of you Scott..
They're not there will be the reason you can't see them.
Bonnet stay is in my garage and the rear surround is in the attic, oops!
On the new list of things to do now.
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Post by bks974c » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:58 pm

I'vw won that medal in the past, lesson learn :oops:

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Post by tiker » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:02 pm

Looking great ,are you using any heating , it was only 11degs here today I would think it would be a little cooler where you are ,what type of paint are you using 2k needs 15degs min I think unless it's cellulose
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Post by colimp66 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:06 pm

It was warmer than 11 degrees today here Gary without heating on. The barn I am in is instulated and the booth is pretty well sealed so keeps a reasonable temperature at the moment but may need some heat later on in the month I suspect.
2k primer is what I am using and same for top coat.

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Post by colimp66 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:12 pm

A run round The Pest tonight with a tin of black paint providing the guide coat so I can rub most of it all off!!!
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Well that was the plan until I realised I had P400 sandpaper strips instead of P180.. Would take me ages with the P400 so I came home. :roll:
No rush I guess.

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Post by colimp66 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:42 pm

P180 sandpaper arrived yesterday so taday was a day of rubbing, rubbing and more rubbing of the guide coat then a lot of cleaning and sweeping up of paint from the floor. :roll:
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Happy with the result as not a huge amount of more filler or stopper required for the next step.
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Post by colimp66 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:41 pm

Today was the day for a second coat of primer and some stone chip on the underside of the sills and arches of The Pest.
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Underside of rear arch with Gravitex
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All taped up for Gravitex stone chip
Once I had the Gravitex in I left it for an hour or so before hitting it with the filler primer once again.
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Looks very similar to previous photos but I can assure there's more paint on and its getting closer to a top coat..
First I need to buy a bit more primer filler to finish of the top of the bonnet, engine cover and rear crossmember cover.
A gallon of primer filler on the car as it is now. Although I guess I have rubbed a good bit of it of earlier in the week
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