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Re: hscc 2014

Post by philgsmith » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:13 am

We had a great day out, meeting lots of Impers and enjoying the racing. We had to shoot off before 5 o'clock so missed a few people (Jimbo). We had the roof on the MG down most the way home - what a contrast to the heavy morning rain!

I'll get some photos posted soon. It was great seeing racers and visitors lining up their cars. Well done guys. Many thanks to Mr & Ms Chair for the tea and biscuits and Mr & Mrs Finance for organising the cake, but most of all thanks to the racers for entertaining us. Roll on next year with hopefully a couple of more racers to support.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by bazzateer » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:24 am

brakedisc wrote:One thing I did notice was that there is plenty of panel damage on the saloon cars whereas the sports classes have very little. Is it really that close or are driving standards slipping?
They're not out for a Sunday drive! :D
The racing is taken seriously. I think the tyres used aren't the best for grip either!
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Adrian » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:45 am

Found some great pictures of the day by Charlie Wooding, there are loads more.

http://charliewooding.co.uk/v/photos/40 ... 9802?ppp=0

http://charliewooding.co.uk/v/photos/40 ... 1802?ppp=0


Steve and I doing the usual swopping of places, Steve ended up the victor when the two results were amalgamated!

http://charliewooding.co.uk/v/photos/40 ... 6002?ppp=0

http://charliewooding.co.uk/v/photos/40 ... 3202?ppp=0

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by philgsmith » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:59 pm

Only video so far..



Some of my better photos (some were awful, some focused brilliantly on the catch fencing!)...

Qualifying -
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preparing to qualify
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by philgsmith » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:08 pm

Prep for race:
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by philgsmith » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:21 pm

Race :
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Post Race party... tea and cake...
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by pubcrawler » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:05 am

Great photo's with good weather for the time of year :D
Thanks for posting 8)
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by philgsmith » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:08 pm

The morning was horrible and the track had lots of water on it, but the afternoon cleared up quite nicely. Some of the photos probably make it look brighter than it really was.

This was posted yesterday.. shows some action at the start of the race with Adrian quickly passing him on the left .... after that its more of a solo drive - he finished 16th overall.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by SimonBenoy » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:14 pm

That's Richard Cross in the Triumph 2000 - top bloke and an unusual choice of car. Seems to be in 4th most of the time. Big, torquey 6 cylinder is a bit different from the Imps!
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by ImpManiac » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:27 am

I like to see the unusual cars competing. Well, I say competing... The big Triumph is not really competitive, is it? :? But that is part of the reason that it's good to see the car out there. The driver is clearly just there for the sheer joy of it. My hat is off to Richard Cross! :mrgreen:

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Adrian » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:56 pm

Just found this from Brands on board the Beetle, a few laps of Imp action from the start!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNWTt_NPWcg
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Charlotte » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:39 pm

Does anyone know when they publish the 2015 race dates? Thank you :D
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by SimonBenoy » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:33 pm

Provisional 2015 dates now on the HSCC website.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by ChrisBenoy » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:53 pm

In car video from Silverstone finals. One of the closer battles of the year for my Dad. Fastest lap was an average of just over 80mph.



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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Lars Hagermark » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:14 pm

Superb!Thanks for posting. :D
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by fgbrown » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:06 pm

is that the bybox series?
I hope to be in the CTCRC next season.
You Imp racers out there!! how important is a LSD ??
Essential or not??

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by SimonBenoy » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:11 pm

Hi Freddie

Most of the HSCC Imps run lsds but it isn't essential - probably a greater need when it rains. Perhaps Adrian will be along soon, he has run with and without.

Interested to know why you would choose to race an Imp in CTCRC, will you be able to be competitive? Must admit that I haven't studied their technical regs, I had assumed that they ran solely to appendix K, but maybe this isn't the case. I know some of the people who raced in pre 66 with them last year.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Teddie2003 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 am

fgbrown wrote:is that the bybox series?
I hope to be in the CTCRC next season.
You Imp racers out there!! how important is a LSD ??
Essential or not??

freddie
Hi Freddie,

Years ago I was told by Ray Payne that in a full weight steel car on the circuits an LSD wasn't that important, apart from as Simon says if the track was wet from when it rains.

His reasoning was apart from a bit of help at the start, on a dry track during a race you would only gain some advantage from the LSD when the car was out of shape, but what you gained from the LSD would be negated by the time you lost by being out of shape.

In the steel car that I ran on the circuits it ran with a CR box but I never used a LSD.While in a lightweight car like a Clan/Dav or spaceframe it's usually a more important piece of kit to have and it was great to have one in the Clan for hillclimbs.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Teddie2003 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:51 am

SimonBenoy wrote:
Interested to know why you would choose to race an Imp in CTCRC, will you be able to be competitive? Must admit that I haven't studied their technical regs, I had assumed that they ran solely to appendix K, but maybe this isn't the case. I know some of the people who raced in pre 66 with them last year.

Cheers - Simon
Hi Simon,

think you can run to appendix K, which is awful for an Imp, or to the CTCRC regs.

The Imps can easily run in Class E which is up to 1000cc, but not sure if you can officially use a 998cc block or it's still an 875cc with a max plus 0.065" overbore. Their regs seem a bit contradictory in places, it all depends if they agree the 998cc Rallye Imp as being produced before 1st Jan 1966 and if they count that as a "standard production block"

When we ran with them years ago, we could only run an 875cc with a re-bore and most people just went to a plus 0.030" re-bore. But in those days they were really tight on the carbs as well and we had to run the Solex body with lots of mods & orig type inlet manifold.

Now they list carbs as "used in period or equivalent but is otherwise free" and inlet/exhaust manifolds are free.

It looks like they are being a bit more realistic about what engines cars actually ran with "in period"

But the biggest difference to the HSCC cars will be the suspension as mods to that area are a bit more limited and bodywork as no lightweight or GRP panels are allowed.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Mike Hanna » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:52 pm

Hi. Many years ago when I took up stage rallying I started with a standard diff with Chrysler Comps. Dept. competition planetary and pin set. The planetary gears broke on the start line of the first stage the car hardly moving a foot. Try again! This time I got to about the 3rd stage and the diff exploded wrecking the transaxle, luckily no damage to the engine. Try again. Brand new J K lsd. This lasted ok but as I and the car got faster it started to eat crown wheels and pinions. Having to get a pinion splined to take the sc gears every time started to get expensive and with loosing potentially good results ( including the outright lead on one rally) I ended up packing it in. I discovered in later years that the crown wheel flange on the J K diff casing is too flexible to keep the crown wheel and pinion in proper mesh thus breaking the teeth. I used a Tranex plate diff to do the HSCC with no trouble at all and would recommend it if you can get one. Mike
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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Adrian » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:21 pm

I ran a standard diff for 17 years it is not essential and I only had the planet gears break up once, but then at some circuits I would let it spin up to keep it on cam then floor it when the rest of the grip came in. mostly due to running an R23 and having to keep it above 6500rpm so the gears got some grief. Silverstone coming out the complex was the worst circuit for it, in fact that were they went.

I now run an LSD from my gearbox guru Dave Weadon, time wise I picked up .1 and .2 of a second here and there but did not set the world on fire with it. I would say Its only needed when the car has everything sorted and you have done some serious racing miles and you know the car inside and out. Then you know whether you need it or not, but then all depends on the driver style.

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Re: hscc 2014

Post by Fletchyboy » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:14 am

SimonBenoy wrote:Hi Freddie

Most of the HSCC Imps run lsds but it isn't essential - probably a greater need when it rains. Perhaps Adrian will be along soon, he has run with and without.

Interested to know why you would choose to race an Imp in CTCRC, will you be able to be competitive? Must admit that I haven't studied their technical regs, I had assumed that they ran solely to appendix K, but maybe this isn't the case. I know some of the people who raced in pre 66 with them last year.

Cheers - Simon
I guesss its down to me that my pal Freddie intends to join me in the CTCRC pre 66 Historics. I currently race a droopsnoot firenza in the CTCRC in the pre 83 series and was looking for a car to race in the pre 66 series as well. I traded an MR2 challenge car for Gideon September's Imp earlier this year. Gideon ran the Imp in HSCC by box series. I raced the Imp for the first time towards the end of the season at Brands in the under 1000cc class as mine is a 998cc. The car went really well and was not far off the pace of the quick guys. So you have 2 new Imp racers out there!
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