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The gearbox

Post by Grumpyoldmen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:49 am

Are Jack Knight the best or only konversion to be found? Is welding and strenghening or other things to the case not neccessary for the 100 hp engine.
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Post by SimonBenoy » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:14 pm

For racing, we mostly use a straight cut 4 or 5 speed box based on the Jack Knight gear sets or similar remade equipment. Some people strengthen the casing, some don't bother. Probably more important to strengthen for rallying and sprint/hillclimb use. You can also use a lowered 3rd/4th conversion which works out a lot cheaper but still works fine. There are several specialists who build them. Some series require the use of helical gear sets rather than straight cut.
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:23 pm

dont buy anything from jack knight
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Post by benwick3 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:33 pm

Don't even think about buying anything from Jack Knight. Ignore their web site it does not contain an element of truth. If anyone from Jack Knight should see this then prove me wrong and give me my money back.

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Post by Impecunious » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:19 pm

Pete;

Have you taken the matter up with Trading Standards by any chance? What a way to 'run' a business... :twisted:

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Post by benwick3 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:27 pm

Dave,

I did some time ago and at that time their service was about equal to Jack Knight's. Unfortunately I've had to put the whole episode down to experience but nobody else should get caught by them.

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Post by Grumpyoldmen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:47 pm

SimonBenoy wrote: or similar remade equipment.
There are several specialists who build them.
Can you specify who in "similar remade" and "several specialists" ?

It would be interesting to know.
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Post by Grumpyoldmen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:51 pm

Mr Richards and Mr Rooney has a very strong opinion about this Knight matter. Is it about the software or the hardware?
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Post by benwick3 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:02 pm

It's the take the deposit and then not delivering the goods. Check out on the internet and you will find out that I'm not alone in paying money, a considerable amount in my case, and receiving nothing in return.

Dave W (Impecunious) can help you with your gearbox needs, both full straight cut box or lowered 3rd and 4th gears.

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Post by cov_climax » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:34 pm

and the cheeky sods ripped off a picture of my car to use on their advertising material, i've never bought anything from them, have no connection with them nor do i want anything to do with them - can i do them for copyright infringement! :evil:
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:08 pm

Grumpyoldmen wrote:Mr Richards and Mr Rooney has a very strong opinion about this Knight matter. Is it about the software or the hardware?

Yes we probably do have strong opinions more pete than me i just dont want to see anyone get caught ,funny do how you say or names as mr richards and mr rooney when our first names show up would be a good thing if you were to make your self know by name or are you a secret part of jack knights just looking to test the water and see if any imp people may like to spend money ,you may think im coming across very strong or even rude but at least i put my name on the forum and think that all these made up names should be done away with ,but then i have nothing to hide

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Post by 67cali » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:18 pm

cov_climax wrote:and the cheeky sods ripped off a picture of my car to use on their advertising material, i've never bought anything from them, have no connection with them nor do i want anything to do with them - can i do them for copyright infringement! :evil:
You only have rights on copyright if the photo is your own photo and you can prove it. ie, anyone can take a photo of your car and they own the rights to that photo. You can however let them know that you are not happy with your car being used in their advertising and request they remove it.
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Post by bks974c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:26 pm

Colin

Don't think anything was meant with the Mr - just a style of address. Check out his posts if unsure whether it was genuine question.

I do think there is a point in having at least a first name so we can identify people but in a good way :wink:

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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:53 pm

bks974c wrote:Colin

Don't think anything was meant with the Mr - just a style of address. Check out his posts if unsure whether it was genuine question.

I do think there is a point in having at least a first name so we can identify people but in a good way :wink:

Scott Clements :D

i know there is nothing ment by it but i just like to ask these questions :lol:
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Post by Grumpyoldmen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:54 pm

colin rooney wrote:
Grumpyoldmen wrote:Mr Richards and Mr Rooney has a very strong opinion about this Knight matter. Is it about the software or the hardware?

Yes we probably do have strong opinions more pete than me i just dont want to see anyone get caught ,funny do how you say or names as mr richards and mr rooney when our first names show up would be a good thing if you were to make your self know by name or are you a secret part of jack knights just looking to test the water and see if any imp people may like to spend money ,you may think im coming across very strong or even rude but at least i put my name on the forum and think that all these made up names should be done away with ,but then i have nothing to hide

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Good heavens, I just tried to be polite.
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:04 pm

colin rooney wrote: i put my name on the forum and think that all these made up names should be done away with ,
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:12 pm

Grumpyoldmen wrote:
colin rooney wrote:
Grumpyoldmen wrote:Mr Richards and Mr Rooney has a very strong opinion about this Knight matter. Is it about the software or the hardware?

Yes we probably do have strong opinions more pete than me i just dont want to see anyone get caught ,funny do how you say or names as mr richards and mr rooney when our first names show up would be a good thing if you were to make your self know by name or are you a secret part of jack knights just looking to test the water and see if any imp people may like to spend money ,you may think im coming across very strong or even rude but at least i put my name on the forum and think that all these made up names should be done away with ,but then i have nothing to hide

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Good heavens, I just tried to be polite.

and you were polite i may have taken it the wrong way but thats just me but i do stand by people putting there name to a post

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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:14 pm

Noddy wrote:
colin rooney wrote: i put my name on the forum and think that all these made up names should be done away with ,
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No more calling myself NODDY :lol: :lol:

everyone knows who you are im going to change my name as i keep getting my self in the s--t when i reply to any post :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Dave ' Linwood ' Lane » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:35 pm

colin rooney wrote:
everyone knows who you are
Thats just plain scary :lol: :lol:
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Post by Grumpyoldmen » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:03 pm

Back to topic: Gearboxes! Do we need them? :D
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:02 pm

Well if you going to race yes some people say the 4 speed is better than a 5 but i work on the theory that if you have a 5 speed you can gear it for a long track and on a short track if you only need 4 then then you may get away without having to keep changing your ratios the biggest problem is getting hold of a box be it a 4 or 5 speed and there not cheap ,but give dave a ring as he is the man in the know

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Re: The gearbox

Post by ImpManiac » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:41 pm

Grumpyoldmen wrote:Back to topic: Gearboxes! Do we need them? :D
Yep. PM Dave W, a.k.a. "Impecunious." :D

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