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Seat Warning FIA Homologation Withdrawn

Post by OldImp » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:49 pm

I have just received the following information from my motor club.

Please be aware that FIA homologation FIA8855-1999 for the following seats has been withdrawn with immediate effect (10/2/12)
Corbeau Forza
Sprint
Pro Series
Revolution
Cobra Monaco

Safety reasons have been cited as the reason for withdrawal.

Guess what seats I recently bought for my car

Anyone have any more information about this?
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Re: Seat Warning FIA Homologation Withdrawn

Post by Lotus-e-Clan » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:23 pm

If they are no longer "safe" then they have been sold unfit for purpose so you should get your money back?

I have a Corbeau Sprint but it's an old one anyway.

Dying to know what's unsafe about them...I wonder if it's fire-related?
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Post by 67cali » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:45 pm

Lotus-e-Clan wrote:If they are no longer "safe" then they have been sold unfit for purpose so you should get your money back?

I have a Corbeau Sprint but it's an old one anyway.

Dying to know what's unsafe about them...I wonder if it's fire-related?
Only unfit for.purpose if bought after the change came into effect.
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Post by Lotus-e-Clan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:59 am

67cali wrote:
Lotus-e-Clan wrote:If they are no longer "safe" then they have been sold unfit for purpose so you should get your money back?

I have a Corbeau Sprint but it's an old one anyway.

Dying to know what's unsafe about them...I wonder if it's fire-related?
Only unfit for.purpose if bought after the change came into effect.
I see.

But lets say there was no change in regs, and that they failed in service because of a design inadequacy like seat fixing boss retention or delay time before catching fire - ie. they don'y meet current regs?

Someone will have the info. Maybe Colin Valentine?
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Post by benwick3 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:11 am

Check out the following and you will find that the cancelled homologation is for older versions of the seats and took place between 2003 - 2009.

http://www.scottishcarclubs.com/Default ... 7c886cd256

If you have just bought your seats then it's more than likely that they are of the later date and are still homologated. If not then you probably have cause for complaint.

Scaremongering by giving only some of the information - like the situation with petrol supplies.

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Post by bazzateer » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:06 am

benwick3 wrote:Scaremongering by giving only some of the information - like the situation with petrol supplies.
:o :shock:

OMG!!! Is something happening with petrol supplies?! I'd better stock up now before Armageddon!
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Post by 617sqn » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:13 am

We didn't have any water at home this morning. Apparently someone had said there was going to be a water shortage, so all those in the area filled up their baths !! Actually it was a burst water main ......... but you wouldn't bet against it happening at the moment would you ? :roll: :D

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Post by Meltdown » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:22 pm

bazzateer wrote:
benwick3 wrote:Scaremongering by giving only some of the information - like the situation with petrol supplies.
:o :shock:

OMG!!! Is something happening with petrol supplies?! I'd better stock up now before Armageddon!
I needed to fill up as I was running on fumes in the company shed, my local station ran out of unleaded so no queues for diseasel...hurrah :D
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Re: Seat Warning FIA Homologation Withdrawn

Post by OldImp » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:19 pm

Hi Pete
Thanks for finding the link that let me sort out the problem. I had no need to worry as I have the latest seats so still legal. Now only have to get the seats through the MOT. See my latest post.
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Post by CorbeauSeats » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:05 pm

OldImp wrote:I have just received the following information from my motor club.

Please be aware that FIA homologation FIA8855-1999 for the following seats has been withdrawn with immediate effect (10/2/12)
Corbeau Forza
Sprint
Pro Series
Revolution
Cobra Monaco

Safety reasons have been cited as the reason for withdrawal.

Guess what seats I recently bought for my car

Anyone have any more information about this?
I appreciate you was only given the information via another motor club but the information provided is not true.

Please contact John Symes @ the MSA for further details or await the press release that will be out later today on the Corbea website.

http://www.Corbea-seats.com
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Re: Seat Warning FIA Homologation Withdrawn

Post by CorbeauSeats » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:38 pm

URGENT PRESS RELEASE 5th April 2012

RE: News Item released entitled “FIA Seat Homologations Cancelled”

In response to the recent news items published in various media on or around the 20th February 2012, Corbeau Seats Ltd would like to clear up any misunderstandings regarding the homologation of our seat models. As a seat manufacturer named in this document who fully understands the FIA/ MSA seat homologations we feel it necessary to clarify what this bulletin set out to explain.

In 2004 certain Corbeau seat model homologations (and other manufacturers) were listed as invalid on the FIA technical list and they still appear on that list today as being non FIA approved.

The Corbeau seats we refer to are as follows:
Corbeau Forza
Corbeau Pro-Series
Corbeau Revolution
Corbeau Sprint

All pre early 2004 models of these seats were struck off due to a technical problem. One of the seats in the range then invalidated all of our THEN current FIA Homologated seat. This seat was recalled at the time.

For INTERNATIONAL events and for National events where there is a specific regulatory requirement for FIA homologated seats the seats are to be FIA homologated and to carry a valid homologation label, noting the homologation period for an individual seat is five years. In MSA authorised stage rallying, under MSA Regulation (R)48.10.6.1, subject to the vehicle having been issued with an MSA Competition Car Log book prior to 01.01.2009 and provided the seats have been homologated and are mounted in accordance with MSA Regulation R48.10.6, the seats remain acceptable beyond the expiration of the 5 year period. As with any seat they must be in acceptable condition.

So there can be no ambiguity we hereby advise the following Corbeau Seats that are no longer: FIA homologated but remain acceptable within MSA Regulation R48.10.6.1

Seats that no longer conform: Corbeau Forza Homologation Number CS99300
Corbeau Pro-Series Homologation Number CS13004
Corbeau Revolution Homologation Number CS12404
Corbeau Sprint Homologation Number CS05302

In 2004 this whole range of seats was re-homologated. The numbers are confirmed below; such seats are FIA homologated and thus acceptable in INTERNATIONAL and NATIONAL events:

Approved Seats Details: Corbeau Forza 2K Homologation Number CS12504
Corbeau Pro-Series 2K Homologation Number CS13004
Corbeau Revolution 2K Homologation Number CS12404
Corbeau Sprint 2K Homologation Number CS 12604

Should there be any doubt, please do not hesitate to contact us and our technical team will be pleased to assist.
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Post by ImpManiac » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:09 pm

^^ Thank you for updating on this. :)

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Re: Seat Warning FIA Homologation Withdrawn

Post by Grumpyoldmen » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:56 pm

How does this work on Super 7-like car where there actually are no "seat". You sit in the structure, maybe some kind of "padding" if you are sensitive.
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