Spaceframe Imps

chris · Post by **chris** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:49 pm

yep more coupes in please, they're the best imps

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:00 pm

front of rob's x mannion imp

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:18 pm

Thanks for putting the photo's on Col..

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:57 pm

What a great tread this is,it is worth while to point out that there really is some interest in imps and racing etc,we should put all these cars to gether have an open day exchange ideas,get featured in some credible magazine,i am going to set up a deal with imp component suppliers,and for people that want parts these will be available at cheaper rates,i will buy big and buy right and pass on to any (genuine) imp racing car owner,will only be available to people that own a racing imp

Keith

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:04 pm

Keith there is lots of intrest in special saloons be it imps or mini's and part of the reason is to buy them and stick a bike engine in ,but as i said in another thread i love the sound of the imp on full chat and would rather see people do as megapin is doing and build a new chassis ,that way these special saloons will survive and with a bit of luck we may get to hold historic special saloon car races someday

col

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:17 pm

Keith has a good point,would be good to all meet up get a motoring magazine to do some photos.Might get some more out from hiding,would be lovely to get that grid of imps and minis together,as Colin so so so wants

Meltdown · Post by **Meltdown** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:31 pm

with a bit of luck we may get to hold historic special saloon car races someday

Perhaps a good moment to mention Gerry's HTS classicandracing website...

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:35 pm

http://hundredthousand.proboards.com/index.cgi

yes this could be the answer to get special saloons back on track

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Id like to get involved with what col has suggetsed so ive just emailed. There is also a northern based series that races currectly at Oulton park and anglsey which has big grids and its a good crack.

i think colin the problem will be there are lots of old stuff out there which wont be upto spec and will never be rebuilt within the forseable future , then theres the point of suppliers wanting daft money for stuff. You know my view on that. Lets see what happens though

big J · Post by **big J** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:07 pm

Couple of pics of a Finnish coupe owner Kai Saarenmaki

big J · Post by **big J** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:21 pm

Whoops,missed one of Les's pics

stuartbrownsey · Post by **stuartbrownsey** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:01 am

A couple more pictures of the mason imp currently under restoration

If all goes to plan it should be out next season competing in the semsec championship
The owner is making a stunning job of the rebuild, it should be very competitive.

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:18 am

here's a few more pics to add to the thread.

John Whyte's BDH engined British Hillclimb Leaders Championship winning Imp:-

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:23 am

Mason Stiletto at Knockhill (semi spaceframe):-

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:26 am

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:29 am

big J · Post by **big J** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:41 am

These are fantastic,great stuff.Stuart,any chance of getting the owner to take some nekkid pics.

Alan,a Knockhill regular!Where on earth did all the 1000 special saloons from Ingliston go?

Love those "spokey" wheels.What are they,Compomotives?

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:27 am

Have some up to date pictures of the mason imp project,can honestly say will be a work of art the owner Brian is a right old woman

Will e-mail them to Colin should really work out how to do it myself!!

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:10 am

Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

Thanks mike

big J · Post by **big J** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:24 am

I'm afraid they handle appalllingly,Maurice Cullen cant even go round a corner but the things trying to tip over

Speedy had a pic of Leo Nulty taking an EVO something round the outside,on 3 wheels,I'll try and find it

Found it,cracking pic,Leo passing the EVO.

big J · Post by **big J** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:41 am

There's these as well-Maurice Cullen

Leo Nulty

Enjoy

(Turn up the volume)

big J · Post by **big J** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:53 am

And while I think about it,better put these in-
Maurices gorgeous Davrian Imp

Leos' immaculate example

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:07 pm

Davrian imps handle as good as a spaceframe i think you will find its all down to driver style and Maurice likes to have the car set up soft so it digs in and lifts the front wheel as high as in the picture above ,all imps will tend to get a wheel of the ground like the 1 of leo going around the outside of the evo ,this is down to the short springs and the suspension being strapped up to stop the shock dropping and the spring becoming loose

col

Leo Nulty · Post by **Leo Nulty** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:46 pm

Hi all, great thread! Good idea John! I'll have a root around and see what I can dig out. I actually have some great pictures of the old <1350cc Irish GT class, which Col's father Dan dominated in the late 80s and early 90s, despite the presence of numerous Davrians, 1380 Minis and semi spaceframe Midgets! I'd like to think I am having similar battles with similar cars these days but the ban on slicks means that even with track improvements, I can't get anywhere near the times Dan used to so around Mondello 20 years ago! Mind you, I'm lucky I have the tyres to blame cos I wouldn't fancy my chances in a straight fight with Mr Rooney Senior anyway!!!

Leo Nulty · Post by **Leo Nulty** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:50 pm

Here's a great picture of David Hall in his 1220cc "Hallspeed" Davrian Imp at Mondello.......

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:56 pm

Cracking picture there leo of hall leading mick hills beetle with fintan cunningham in the mini not sure who was in the escort but thats basil dagg in the rawlson imp ,think at the time of this race my dad was working is tanzania and was due back the following weekend which he was a bit upset about as he would have loved to been out with the english cars,

col

Leo Nulty · Post by **Leo Nulty** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:44 pm

speeddemon wrote:Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

Thanks mike

Yeah, as ever, Col is spot on. I haven't really started changing the chassis set up on mine (the white one in the gallery) as we were chasing a misfire and a soft brake pedal most of the season, but I do intend to play with it a little this year. It tends towards a little understeer on turn in but if I throw it in it is fine, then it is a matter of timing. As soon as I feel the back beginning to let go (before the apex) I stand on the power and it just squatts and goes, that is where it gains most time on other cars. If I am slow in getting the power on, it will need an armful of opposite lock to sort it and is easily held, but this slows the corner exit. You can see most of this on the above youtube clip, especially on the last corner when the back can brake away just after turn in. (Ignore lap one, that's one of my many boo-boos!!)

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:31 pm

few pics that leo sent me to stick on 1st is halls imp

ned murrays rawlson infront of my dad in his original imp which was an x fraser car and he still has the fuel tank and reverse gear lever the throttle pedal and clutch rest pedal are still in my race imp plus steering wheel

this is the vivan candy imp which was originaly david halls imp

and this is a rear shot of hall or candy

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:40 pm

Pan mannion in the revolution wheels stiletto

stuartbrownsey · Post by **stuartbrownsey** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:25 pm

A couple more pictures of the car before the decision was made to make a continuation spaceframe

The engine will be very high spec including dry sump and fuel injection running 8 injecters

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:49 pm

Guys , i need a picture of the chimp , can someone put one up, preferably from all angles. Thanks mike

chris · Post by **chris** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:00 pm

I do like to see the Davrian kit in action, can someone tell me please if they where full or semi's? this is my mk1 kit grafted onto a steel shell that I would like to do a semi, starting with the front.

Also if people do do a little meet up with the spaceframes Id love to come along if youd let me!, I know mine isnt one but it yearns to be one of the kool kids lol.

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:06 pm

Guys this is a good thing sure enough,this is the most interesting toy shop that ive ever seen,now lets get them out to race and have a massive meet in ireland and the uk,i am in,i can bring three or four racing imps with me that i own no problem,it seems weve started a revival and one of the most viewed forum pages on this site

Lets get going

Keith scott n ireland

chris · Post by **chris** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:08 pm

yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics!

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:11 pm

[quote="chris"]yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics![/q
So we encouraged you then to view our pages,that is positive

Keith

Bevan IMP · Post by **Bevan IMP** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:12 pm

A Bevan Spaceframe IMP..

This is the only Bevan Car I can actually remember racing.

It used lotus parts for the supsension with a ford BDG engine and Hewland Gearbox.

It was actually the last Bevan car.........

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:20 pm

some nice peices of kit coming out and well done on yours chris. looks well.

The last one looks a pure monster.

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:35 pm

Chris most of the davrian imps were full fiberglass but there was a few which had a spaceframe chassis ,but i know that leo's and Maurice's cars are all glass

col

chris · Post by **chris** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:42 pm

Thanks Colin, I didn't realise they where full fiberglass, interesting that fact!

Turboimp · Post by **Turboimp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:47 pm

Earling Jensen's spaceframe 998 stiletto , multi outright championship winning car in the castle combe special GT championship in the 1990s looked after by Ray Payne . Its best time was 1:06 in practice ( 1:07 in the races ) on the old circuit , thats averaging 100 mph .., The most successful space frame Imp of the later years having won the same championship outright in Brian cuttings hands on more than one occasion It was a giant Killer

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:52 pm

I own the body moulds which i purchased a few years ago that came from an owner that owned this earling jensen special imp,nice to see this pictures as ive not seen it before

Keith

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:00 pm

Keith who was that then! PM me if you want.

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:04 pm

[quote][/quote]Earling Jensen's spaceframe 998 stiletto , multi outright championship winning car in the castle combe special GT championship in the 1990s looked after by Ray Payne . Its best time was 1:06 in practice ( 1:07 in the races ) on the old circuit , thats averaging 100 mph .., The most successful space frame Imp of the later years having won the same championship outright in Brian cuttings hands on more than one occasion It was a giant Killer

is this not your car rob

col

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:08 pm

Guys i think weve created a monster imp forum race page its wonderful,it is better than meeting demi moore,john donald from ireland started it on thursday night and were heading for 90 plus posts,the good thing is anyone thats posted has an interest and more important alot have actually a race imp themselfs,let get this day organised

Keith scott

chris · Post by **chris** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:11 pm

would I be invited with my fake one lol

maguire imp · Post by **maguire imp** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:15 pm

Why wouldnt you be,your work is stunning well done to you,you are a genuine lad i know you are

Keith

colin rooney · Post by **colin rooney** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:16 pm

yes mate we woulnt leave you out in the cold

col

knocker · Post by **knocker** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:19 pm

Yes Colin that why i wanted to know who the owner was.

stuartbrownsey · Post by **stuartbrownsey** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:28 pm

This bike engined imp was for sale on piston heads a few weeks ago for £7500 (now sold)
Does anybody know who bought it ?

I think Tim Duffee (Mr Darrian) has the body moulds

speeddemon · Post by **speeddemon** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:37 pm

same here, i saw it advertised and wondered who bought it. i think its in the shape of the moulds you say.