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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:35 am

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i will try to post the first two pages later today my head shot of to bed thanks gents mike linked to my photobucket
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Teddie2003 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:29 pm

mikedao wrote:thanks for the welcome been a member in the past be 65 soone so i will not be doing a ards test will be doing hillclimb and sprints, trying to find out whoes car i have may be the ex brian davis car :?:
1i got the car off robert knox nice fella
2 who did robert get the car off?=i forgot to ask him
3 was hillclimbed/sprinted late 80s by nick frain/tony oldfield ref p0pular classics sep 1990 pages 68 to 71
4 the car was at torque speed in leicester i think in a bad state i think after a crash at brands hatch 75ish?


Well according to the info from the NDR web site http://john.rawlins.com/ndr1/page24.html

The Brian Davis car had the rear end as a spaceframe to take a BDA and Hewland gearbox and your car looks like its all f/glass rear end. It looks like there might be some pictures of your car on that web site as well, pics 24 & 26.

Have a chat/email John Rawlins at NDR as he might be able to help you as to some more history on your car. Or Driftwood (Kevan) who is also on here might know something about your car, as Kevan knows a lot about the special saloons.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:44 pm

i have emailed john it was him that thought it might be the brian davis car thanks mike. i know the rear end was space framed
on the davis car but the bodywork would be the same when the hillclimb boys got the car frome torque speed the rear axle and engine had long gone and the car was in a sorry state.
thanks for keeping it going mike
ps i would like to get moore pics of brian davis car i have serched the web no joy enyone out there have eny thanks mike
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this is another photo that john rawlins sent to me
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby oneofapair » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:49 am

Think you'l find the Brian Davies concerned here;info@autoquip.co.uk .Pretty certain thats the man.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby driftwood » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:19 pm

Davrian Imp info
The car mag article is full of major inaccuracies
1 Nick Britten never drove a Bevan car he drove Fraser cars in the 60s
2 George never had a Davrian Imp
3 George's 2 litre car was a Stiletto driven by Rob Mason originally built by Tony Dickenson
4 Brian Davies car was 1300 BDA car it wasn't space frame it was fibreglass like the rest of the Davrian Imps
There where some space frame cars built by other people with similar looking davrian bodywork fitted
I did speak to Brian many years ago about his car and sent the info to John Rawlins to put onto his thread
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:54 pm

thank you for the replys
just trying to get some history onthe car and save it frome the tip
engine wise=1040 supercharged and hewland mk9 alot of money
zx10r and chain diff and mounting frame half the above
i have a pot of 10g for all of the car
the class the car will be in is sports libre
have to think on this thanks mike
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mapman » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:57 am

Mike, same dilemma I had with the Rawlson spaceframe - went with the ZX10R as the most cost efficient way of getting it back on the hills. Presently awaiting new body shell from Chris at Fiberclass.
See you there!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:21 am

hi paul been folowing you on uphill nice work
emailed douglas westgarage ref diff it seems i will have to bring the drive forword of the gearbox to the diff
i do not have roome in the back for mid engine do not want to cut the balkhead ,i will have to offset the engine to the right
and offset the chain diff to the left not much i hope and use a shaft of the gearbox to drive to the diff :roll:
just need to find someone to make we love old imps :lol: thanks mike
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Tue May 12, 2015 5:27 pm

Hi, New on here but I have been watching for a while. If that is the Alister Fenwick/ Phil Gleed car it is the original Davrian Imp that Charles Barter had. I know because I picked it up from Golden Springs as a bare shell and rebuilt it, ran ti for a while then sold it to Alister and Phil. I stripped it back to bare fibreglass, so if you remove all of the paint the last that you come to before the primer should be bright yellow front and most of the roof a wide bright red diagonal stripe and a pure white rear end.
I' m currently rebuilding the Orange car on one of the earlier pages (29 or 30) that was owned by Iain Leinster, this is a aluminium monocoque, with a Jarvis (i believe) body shell draped over it. The suspension was March I believe but this was robbed before I got it. I'm now building it with Formula BMW centre lock uprights and suspension of my own design. The car that we run at the moment has suspension of my design and this had 2 sprint FTD's only last weekend so I know it works. I will post pics when my build is a little further on, as I like to get on with the work and generally can't be bothered with the pics until i'm done.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Tue May 12, 2015 5:43 pm

Right, I've had another look, the car I own now is the 77 car on page 27 (but not in that condition when I got it) it si also the N Hepburn car on page 28. I also resurrected the the 44 car on page 28, the Nike Imp. that was also built from a box of bits. With Blackbird power it was extremely quick, when I fitted the Blackbird motor I left all of the mounting points for the Imp engine and box on the car so that anyone wishing to convert it back could do it easily. But 162 BHP and a sequential box for £ 500.00 is hard to resist.
By the way I have had several steel competition Imps and a really quick Brain Luff Clan.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby ImpManiac » Tue May 12, 2015 9:40 pm

Welcome along, Roy! :mrgreen:

Interesting posts. Well done on the recent sprint results! 8) I look forward to the photos.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Wed May 13, 2015 7:23 pm

Mike I have been looking at your photos. there are bits that look familiar to me and bits that don't. First off the Golden Springs Davrian (not to be confused with the Solo Stlletto) had a very simple (and light) arrangement for hanging the doors, (no hinges) just a tube glassed into the door and a top hat in a hole for the vertical tube to go into. The pedal box and driveshafts look like Tim Duffee mods to standard Imp bits.
If you have to go forward with you drive the Autograss boys use a transfer box that reverses the drive so that you canmount the engine the opposite way around. How much space do you have to put it the right way round, beariyng in mind that you can push the diff back a bit and angle the shafts forward a little.
The problem with mounting the engine inline is that you get a fair amount of oil surge, so you need to drysump or have some serious sump baffles sorted, if you can squeeze the engine in in the normal bike engine way then oil is less of an issue. I am dry sumping my current Imp/ bike engine installation.
We don't live that far apart, I live in Newton Abbot. I will be at Wiscombe this Saturday (paddock marshal) if you want a chat or PM me not sure how you do that on here.
Finally for now Alisrer Fenwick and Phil Gleed were from Calne, Wiltshire.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Thu May 14, 2015 11:00 pm

roy i am on the night shift sat but will try to make it like to talk to you my first jobe was at bradly wool mills in your town :roll:
hope to see you sat mike
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Craigfinlayson » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:34 pm

Hi guys!

Ive been browsing through and found my dads (sandy Finlayson) old car! He used it up until 94/95 I believe in Scottish sprints and hill climbs. Im just wondering if anyone has any information on where it might be now? I remember him having it (although I was still a toddler at the time) and would love to know where it is now and has been since.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:10 pm

I think dougie scott may have this car some how i think i remember seeing pictures of it

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby les998 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:44 pm

You are correct Colin, Dougie Scott did have the car, whether he has sold it on I'm not sure!!!!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Craigfinlayson » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:48 am

Thanks guys!

Don't suppose any of you have an email address for him?

Cheers
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:20 pm

No but dougie has a haulage company in glasgow here is the contact number i found on line 0141 882 4888 , he is a really nice chap to chat with and you never know he may still have it and sell it back to you

which would be nice and you could come out and play with it

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby alan c ramsay » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:32 pm

Rawlson Davrian back at Ingliston at the w/e, after a gap of about 30 years !

Still wearing paint scheme, race number and scrutineer's ticket from 1/9/85.

Still trying to piece together it's history, and a few of the old tin-top guys there at the w/e reckoned it could be either Jimmy Jack's old car...or Ricky Gauld.... Best of all, however, was a visit from the neighbour of the last driver, Peter Chamberlain, who still lives in Alness. He said he'd pay Peter a visit on Monday (today) and would let me know what he finds out.

Got about 7 laps of the re-constituted track each day, following a pacecar....not that I'd have caught it !

For those on Facebook, search on "Jim Aldebert" for some great photos of the Ingliston Revival event.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:46 pm

Well done alan great to see you got it out on track

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby les998 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:51 pm

Looking good Alan :-)
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby ImpManiac » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:37 pm

That does look good, Alan. 8) What's the engine and transmission specification?

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby alan c ramsay » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:57 pm

ImpManiac wrote:That does look good, Alan. 8) What's the engine and transmission specification?

IM 8)


It's just a 998 with R17, twin 40s and a standard box. As far as I can work out, the car ran in the 80's with a 5-speed box, and TJ fuel injection. It will be a while before I can afford that spec. equipment again.........

It had Spax coil-overs allround, but I put the rear back to std. spec with short Montes, as the top shock fabrication didn't look strong enough. Just as well, as the old circuit has a few bumps on it !
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby alan c ramsay » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:44 pm

See my post, just up the page.........

Got loads of history on the car now, and will post up a summary soon.

For now, here is a photo of same car at Donnington in 1979.
(photo courtesy of Andrew Clegg via TenTenths forum)

It's looking like the car is the Chris Roberts / Adrian Gamble Chrade Imp. (CHRis / ADE-rian)

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:33 am

has enyone got eny info on the maguire skoda built for reseach purposes
got asked the question on uphill racers forum thank you gents mike :o
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby driftwood » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:50 pm

Maguire skoda built by John Maguire raced once by Tom Shepard 1300 bda hewland gearbox march uprights back end of 79 early 1980
Car was sold to hill climber Mike Hanson ( he had leg issue needed hand clutch) in late 1980
Last owner was Martin Brockhouse and he did some circuit races but mainly hill climbing with the car. Recently the car was bought and it had been broken down good parts sold off and the chassis body sold for a few quid to the present owner who has a lot of work to do to get it running again
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:04 pm

Any of you boys know what the discs on a maguire imp are from

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby HillclimbMS1 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:11 pm

Seeking information about the Maguire Skoda and its location!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:43 pm

HillclimbMS1 wrote:Seeking information about the Maguire Skoda and its location!


I believe there is a maguire skoda in the north of ireland ,its was on ebay earlier this year

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby pubcrawler » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:17 pm

Took this from FB, photo taken by Steve Wilkinson :o
1989 June - John Whyte (Sunbeam Stiletto) at Doune Hill Climb :D
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby MrL33B » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:05 pm

big J wrote:I've found a list on 10/tenths of entrants for the 80/81Wendy Wools series,here are the Imp ones-
Michael Luck Chrysler Californian
Peter Stride Imp
John Mawditt Imp
Bill McGovern Bevan Imp
Rob Mason Imp
Brian Cutting Imp
John Schneider Imp
Peter Knipe Imp
Douglas Fairbarn Imp
Barry Barnes Imp
Keith Freeman Imp
Sue Davies Imp
Alan Humberstone Stiletto Ford
John Homewood Imp
Brian Davis Imp
David Enderby Chamois Coupe
Michael Law Stiletto
Brian Leonard Imp
Patrick Mannion Stiletto
Eddie McLurg Imp
Ian Luck Imp
Glenn board Imp

So it would seem we havent scratched the surface yet,though images are getting harder to find.
Anybody know any information on any of the above drivers?


Keith Freeman used to race the space framed Imp built by my father, Guy Buckingham, for his team Teal Engineering. The team sponsor at the time was Spring Grove.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:02 am

Hi all
I'm just rubbing down the panels on the edwards car (page 5 of this forum). with a view to restoring it and was going to Paint in an original colour but I've found about ten different colours on the car (as with most race cars I suppose it's had a few different owners /sponsors) Which colour / sponsor was most memorable for this car and are there any pics about?
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:34 am

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:31 pm

Are the two cars above the same car ? This blue paint is under the White. Also the edwards car has alley cat split rims with Avon slicks!

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby mikedao » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:12 pm

steve if you look at the roll cage in both pics i would say they are the same allso the blue one has a timing strut post on uphill racers to see if they know of the car mike
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby ibbo » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:25 pm

the above car is the one owned twice by dave Llewellyn hope ive spelt that right
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:36 pm

Cheers mike. It would be good to know a little more about it. I was told it was enderbys mason stiletto when I bought it but I never take these things for granted. At the moment it's in its component parts in my garage.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:39 pm

Thanks mark I have spoken to Dave about this car a few years ago.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colimp66 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:06 pm

That is on my list of favourite Imps.
Be nice to see the progress of it as a thread on its own.
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