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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Teddie2003 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:02 pm

ScaryWayne wrote:I think I will start a readers car thread when I get started. Not sure how many people will be intereseted though.

I've been searching the interweb for an email or website for Chris Farren at Fibreclass but have drawn a blank. Anyone got any details?


This was the last one I had

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby SBS » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:09 pm

........last known mobile number - 07747 367067
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:16 pm

Does anyone have any pics of the ccc stiletto driven by Enderby? I cant find any online
Also does anyone know Stephen Brett ?...
I’ve just been reading up on Enderby and his mason stiletto, I’m hoping to drag it out of the shed soon and make a start on it.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby hillman1070 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:25 pm

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum in fact any forum!
ive seen previous post from Graham De Looze regarding the blue /white spaceframe saloon. He says at one time it was Andy Ciakovs? That car has been mine now since 1997 , bought it as a rolling shell from a guy in Stoke on Trent and after much work I started hillclimbing it in 2000. Its morphed quite a bit over the years..long story short...I made a mess of it at landow early this year. Ive heaps of work to sort it out and have been looking for a one piece grp roof and pillars among other bits. I have bought other saloon roof mould and rear screen mould but they have been cut short and are not complete. Will consider stiletto top now that I have to rebuild it. Grateful for any help.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:02 pm

hi and welcome give me a ring on saturday on 07515533742 about glass work

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby ingliston2 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:55 pm

HARRY wrote:
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Ian Forrest & the Maguire Stiletto ex Tony Bridge Car & Harry Simpson Maguire Stiletto ex David Endeby's Car.
Picture taken at Knockhill Race Meeting about 1985. Both cars are identical 998 full race Andy Chessman engines and Jack Knight gearboxes


I remember when Tony Bridge brought this car to Ingliston and it blew all the other Imps away in Special saloon > 1000 cc qualifying, got some video of this meeting and took some pics (from my tv with the iphone here) - that Imp was awesome no wonder it became the Drambui imp mk2/3!

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby MATTinSURREY » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:49 am

Still looking for a spaceframe imp guys. @Colin, thanks for the offer of a new chassis, believe this will be beyond my budget and capabilities. Prefer something with a bit of history, requiring a straightforward restoration. Someone must have something somewhere...
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:54 pm

there is a spaceframe imp for sale a chap called andy wilson is selling it £13,000 on the button ready to go
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby MATTinSURREY » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:35 am

Thanks Colin. I'm assuming it's the same Andy Wilson that's on here? Just dropped him a note via the forum, so hopefully I'll hear more soon. Many thanks, Matthew
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:33 pm

no its not the same andy wilson , the man you need can be contacted on 07939028186
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby alan c ramsay » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:52 pm

colin rooney wrote:there is a spaceframe imp for sale a chap called andy wilson is selling it £13,000 on the button ready to go


Lot of history with this car.....originally built by Brian MacLeod from Alness, and raced many years at Ingliston.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:18 am

I bit the bullet yesterday and dropped all my panels off to Chris at fibreclass, he’s confident he can replicate my original panels and he’s going to put a coloured gel coat on too. I’ve been looking at my tub and started to realise there’s quite a bit of work to replace the cage and some of the original tub needs welding too but it won’t get done if I don’t get it done!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:00 pm

how long until panels are ready

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:39 pm

Should be ready end of Feb beginning of March
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:38 pm

excellent
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:16 pm

Hi I'm after a bit of help tracing histories of 2 spaceframe imp cars. One I have some history and have seen film (utube of it competing at Lyden, this has been confused at times on here with the other car that i'm after info on.
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The maroon car is as it was in its heyday and the Orange version is as it was when I bought it after pirates ripped the march suspension from it. I know that at various time it ran with a BDA, 16v Vauxhall (I've seen the pictures) and 8 valve Vauxhall.

The next Car I have become the custodian of, Mikedao on here passed away shortly before christmas. I have been asked to finish the car by his widow, so i'm looking for genuine info on this car.
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Mike Law says that this is not his Ray Imp, his description of his Imp matches this perfectly up to the inboard brakes, this has Brabham corners with outboard brakes. The engine was a mid mounted upright Imp mated to a Hewland Mk9. The engine is a lovely piece of kit, all the bits I used to dream about when I was running Imps and Clans in the 80's. From what I gathered from Mike Robbie Knox owned it when it was Yellow and Blue and I have seen other pics on here of a similar car In Blue and Pink (maybe red). The rear bodywork is very distinctive in the section behind the rear wheel arches, it is swept up quite steeply. This car has been confused with mine above in description, but mine had March suspension and this one has Brabham.

Any good info would be good please, Roy
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby oneofapair » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:43 pm

The Owens liveried car IS the car that Rob Knox owned, was then sold on to Welshman Gwyndaf Owens, a succesful Mini racer.As stated car is on Brabham corners, upright Imp engine with Hewland gearbox.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:19 am

Hi thanks, I had that info, it is more who owned it before Rob Knox and its origins. Endaf Maybe?

The Maroon turned orange car, I know the Nigel Hepburn bit and little about its Graham Smith (Lyden) history, what I'm after is, were there any owners between Graham and Nigel and where it came from before Graham Smith. Kevin Day has been mentioned at times.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby oneofapair » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:04 pm

The car prior to Rob owning it was owned by someone called (I Think) Graham . He was the cars owner but the driver was Wil Arif. Rob tried to trace background of car prior to Wil Arif, even contacting Iain Forrest as it was rumoured to be the drambuie car, that was discounted afterthat conversation. I'll contact Rob to see if he can fill the blanks for you.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:09 am

Hi, Graham Smith owned and drove the Maroon car, which I have been told was BDA powered. Seen the film. Will Arif has also driven it on occasion.

As far as I know Graham Smith did not own the Blue Imp powered car, unless someone knows different.

2 cars are possibilities: the second Ray car Bob Jarvis and the Ian Forrest car, the Bob Jarvis car was last remembered with a crossflow in it, but that could have been converted easily and little is known of the Ian Forrest car after it came South.
Help anybody.

You tube of the maroon car at Lyden driven by Graham Smith Maroon car with white flashes and orange headlights I have them in my workshop sorry for the film quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgQUJKr0eak

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby oneofapair » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:02 pm

The graham smith car is NOT the car are talking about. The car that Rob knox had (blue and yellow )was a much tidier built car with some neat little detail features. I occassionally bump into Wil Arif, if I remeber I'll ask him "Grahams" full name1
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:38 am

OK, so another Graham. What neat features are we talking about on the Ex Rob Knox car? One thing that I do know is that the engine is really nice, all of the proper bits.
The Graham Smith car was tidy at one time see the top photo above.
The ROPS in both cars left a lot to be desired.
Thanks for keeping this going, anyone know of any way to contact Ian Forrest? No longer works at Knockhill.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:30 am

Ian is on facebook if your not on there i can ask him for a contact email or number for you , i cant shed any light on the car you have as i only know it from when rob knox had it , but i do know that reg patten was involved with it before rob bought it so it might be worth giving reg a call

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:20 pm

Thanks Colin, I don't do Facebook, so if Ian Is willing to contact be Email or phone maybe we do the details over a PM,
I have looked at all of the info on the thread and seem to come up against a wall, maybe I will contact Reg Patten as well.
thanks again,
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:31 pm

Hi Roy i have messaged Ian but not heard back from him

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:44 pm

colin rooney wrote:Hi Roy i have messaged Ian but not heard back from him

col

Thanks, I have emailed Reg and not heard from him, but I only emailed today.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby oneofapair » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:20 pm

This is the car that Wil Arif drove for its owner,.Rob knox bought it from that owner via Wil Arif who stored the car. Rob then selling on to Endaff Owens.Rob posts on here as "Knocker". I'm sure he would have no problems telling you the history from he's viewpoint. Wil Arif is driving in this picture,taken at a late 80's/early 90's end of season "winter warmers" at BRANDS
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:07 pm

Hi, Thanks for that, definitely the car I have in my garage. What I'm trying to do is trace it back prior to Rob Knox all the way back if I can.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby knocker » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:07 pm

Roy, what are your plans with car ? As I was informed the engine & gearbox was for sale and a bike engine was going in it place Is this still the plan? Do you now own it?
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:09 pm

Hi,
The bike engine is already in along with the Quaife diff. I have been making the ROPS MSA legal or at least finishing what Mike started. I have sorted the front hubs so that they have one spacer not two. A fair amount to do to make it currently MSA compliant. But if you had seen the ROPS in my car when I got it you would have fallen over laughing.
I don't own the car but I'm the one dealing with it. Mike's wife wants it completed and wants to see it compete.

Do you have any info on the car prior to you owning it.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:36 pm

roy what is ROPS

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Teddie2003 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:48 pm

Hi Colin

Roll Over Protection(ROPS)

Roll cage to MSA regs, which changed a bit last year for Hill Climbs and Sprints, not sure if those changes all apply to circuits though.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:46 am

Hi, MSA spec for Rops have not changed since 1987 (I think). It was just that certain constructors never built there ROPS to comply with the regs. Jedi were the main culprit, OMS on various cars and even Pilbeam. The ROPS on the Endaf/Knocker Imp was lacking in tube dimensions,bracing and material in some areas.
The regs apply across the board to all disciplines, Hills Sprints Circuits, Rallying etc.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby colin rooney » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:06 am

Well in all my years spent around race cars i never knew it was ROPS they say you learn something new every day :D

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:22 am

colin rooney wrote:Well in all my years spent around race cars i never knew it was ROPS they say you learn something new every day :D

col

The first time I saw it mentioned as ROPS is in the 2014 Blue book it may have been in 2012 or 2013 as well but I don't have them to hand to check. I have been competing since 1974 and the first time I saw it I thought what's that all about. It's probably to avoid confusion between Roll over bars and anti roll bars.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby steve g » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:34 pm

I only know rops and fops from digger driving and construction machinery roll over protection structure ad falling object protection structure.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby 617sqn » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:09 pm

I know FOPS and DANDYS from mixing with the wrong crowd. :lol:

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Teddie2003 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:07 pm

Roy Sims wrote:Hi, MSA spec for Rops have not changed since 1987 (I think). It was just that certain constructors never built there ROPS to comply with the regs. Jedi were the main culprit, OMS on various cars and even Pilbeam. The ROPS on the Endaf/Knocker Imp was lacking in tube dimensions,bracing and material in some areas.
The regs apply across the board to all disciplines, Hills Sprints Circuits, Rallying etc.
Roy


Hi Roy,

yes that was what I meant by changed. That some cars had to be modified to meet what they should have been built to in the first place.

617sqn wrote:I know FOPS and DANDYS from mixing with the wrong crowd. :lol:

Andy G


but they will say they are the "right crowd"



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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Postby Roy Sims » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:12 am

Teddie2003 wrote:
Hi Roy,

yes that was what I meant by changed. That some cars had to be modified to meet what they should have been built to in the first place.
Steve


Hi Steve, That is what I'm doing to the Imp, actually both of them. They were used on circuits for years with ROPS that have never complied with the Blue book.

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