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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Piers Phillips » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:27 am

Hi Mike,
I will be at Mallory on Sunday / Monday so I will definately pop along and say hi.
Would be good to meet some of the other guys racing and get a feeling for the championship and the direction its heading in the future.
Catch up next weekend

Piers
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:01 pm

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regrads Mike car 51 AG Shrigley spaceframed mini ( The hillmans in the garage all poished and ready for new owner)

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you got a buyer for the imp then

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:08 pm

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Im after any info on this car where it raced who raced it

cheers col
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by grahamdelooze » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:25 pm

Sorry dont know, ill ask Richard Casey he's a bit of a spaceframe pervert as well.
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Post by colin rooney » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:33 pm

cheers graham, how is your car you done anything to it

col
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by maguire imp » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:07 pm

Richard finney car used to be red and it had a ford engine from memory i have original photos somewere,it was sold on eaby before this current person had it up,was up for sale about 1998 last and was sold for around 1000 pounds with log book and it was racing at that point in castlecombe i think

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by maguire imp » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:34 pm

look on page 5

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Post by maguire imp » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:13 am

No i got mixed up it was a man called andy crazkov i think that is spelt right i might be able to scan orginal ad later thanku



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Post by bennettimp » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:25 am

maguire imp wrote:Richard finney car used to be red and it had a ford engine from memory i have original photos somewere,it was sold on eaby before this current person had it up,was up for sale about 1998 last and was sold for around 1000 pounds with log book and it was racing at that point in castlecombe i think

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I now own the Finney Imp. It was a Rachael Finney that built the car.. Collect it on thursday, very excited.. going to restore the car for hillclimbs and sprints over the next 5 or 6 months.. but using a bike engine... sorry purists.. im 23.. and on a budget, so urll have to understand the bike engine route!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by ImpManiac » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:28 am

bennettimp wrote:I now own the Finney Imp. It was a Rachael Finney that built the car.. Collect it on thursday, very excited.. going to restore the car for hillclimbs and sprints over the next 5 or 6 months.. but using a bike engine... sorry purists.. im 23.. and on a budget, so urll have to understand the bike engine route!
Be sure to keep us posted. Lots of photos too, please. :wink: :mrgreen:

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by TJB69 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:18 pm

I've just collected this spaceframe today. I'm told its a rawlson but not so sure. It's been lying unused for 27 years

Any information or history about it would be appreciated

Thanks :D
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:26 pm

nice 1 tom it was forsale on ebay around 5 year ago are you giong to race it or just keep it in your collection

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by SimonBenoy » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:22 pm

Tom - looks interesting. Would like to see some more pics once you have taken off the removable panels. When I had a Rawlson, I was told there were only 2 and I know who has the earlier version, bodywork looks a bit Davrian like.

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Post by TJB69 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:46 pm

Hi Colin, yes it was sold on eBay 2007 but the new owner never did much with it. Last owner had it sitting for 22 years.

Not sure what I'm going to do with it. Will start with body off then get chassis blasted and either painted or powder coated. Won't be this side of Christmas though just moved house and the wife has a mega list of jobs to be done lol

Will get some pictures to you as soon as body is off Simon. I'm told that it raced at ingliston early eighties but that's as much as I know. Will there be any ID numbers on chassis? Thanks
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:11 pm

not sure about an id number but it will make a nice project

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by ImpManiac » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:26 pm

Got to agree with the above comments, Tom! :mrgreen: A fabulous project! All the best with it and be sure to keep us posted on progress as and when it happens. 8)

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:30 pm

Tom check out speeddemon mikes rawlson spaceframe imp on here it has a davrian body like your new project ,when you get to the framework you may be able to tell if they were built by the same person

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by bennettimp » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:58 am

that looks in good nick considering its been lying around that long, the project i bought was in an absolute state, and well still is in a mess..not too much has happened to it since, got so busy with work!
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Post by colin rooney » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:53 pm

bennettimp wrote:that looks in good nick considering its been lying around that long, the project i bought was in an absolute state, and well still is in a mess..not too much has happened to it since, got so busy with work!
any pictures of your car

col
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by jade stilleto » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:50 am

do i sell it or not , to race or not ? that is the question Imp028
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by jade stilleto » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:55 am

davrian with 1400 turbo bike engine might be out as well ,this is also road legal
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by ImpManiac » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:25 pm

jade stilleto wrote:do i sell it or not , to race or not ? that is the question Imp028
:o Don't sell it. Race it! :twisted:

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by stuartbrownsey » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:00 pm

A few pictures of Piers Philips Maguire spaceframe Imp, After Piers bought the car and stripped it down it was found
to be in very poor condition so a full rebuild with many improvements has being undertaken by Piers. Piers's day job
is in top end professional motorsport so there was only one standard he was going to be happy with. The fabricator has made a lovely
job. The chassis is now complete and the car is at the body shop sorting out the panels (that were supplid in very poor condition)
so new moulds can be taken.The car is going to run a Rodwell Motorsport 1040 engine on fuel injection.
I cant wait to see the finished car (hopefully for next season's CSCC special saloon championship)

Most of the cars history can be traced and this rebuild has John Maguire's interest.

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Anybody else coming out to play, we were the only Imp out for most of last year (the black spaceframe)

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by grahamdelooze » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:44 pm

nice work, new cage tubes look huge compared to original. new lower steering column mount looks a worth while addition.
lots of tubes missing out of the floor unless youve since put them in. I never liked the design of the upswept swannecked part of the
tube frame that mounts the front wish bones.although stood test of time looks weak and technically wrong for spaceframe principles.
the rawlson front end is better with the mounting tubes under the wish bones and in the same plane as the floor pan with mounting brackets stood up rather than hanging down. im still going to leave mine original though and it was speced extra high by tony as he wanted to reduce roll couple by design rather than use an anti roll bar. either he or someone else later disagreed as its now fitted with a z roll bar.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by ImpManiac » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:10 pm

Wow! :shock: That Maguire looks stunning! A Maguire Stiletto is one of the cars that got me seriously interested in Imps - and motor sport. I am really looking forward to seeing this come together and hopefully up close and personal next season.

More pics and information, please! :mrgreen: 8) Maybe Piers could be encouraged to start a Readers' Cars thread. :idea: :?:

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Impecunious » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:09 pm

Looks like I've still got a bit of time to sort out Piers' JK/Quaife 5 speed then Stuart.......... :D

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by stuartbrownsey » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:15 pm

No chance Dave, Piers is on a mission and he's got enough contacts to get
this car finished early next year.

Expect a phone call
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Piers Phillips » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:47 am

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the kind comments regarding the car. Its certainly been very interesting journey so far as far as chasing the history and the rebuild has been concerned but have had a huge amount of help from previous owners and also Mr Maguire himself.
John and Tom Sheppard have been very open and enthused regarding getting the car sorted properly and I must say their help has been priceless.
As you can see I have replaced the old mild steel cage with a T45 42mm version for strength and safety, there are various other small mods to the chassis to sort out the issues experienced by all maguires of the time.
The plan is to be out at the first race next season (Work and location permitting) and give that pesky black Imp from the south coast a run for its money !
Seriously though, I want to say a big public thank you to Mr Stuart Brownsey @ Rodwell Motorsport as he has been an absolute diamond in his efforts to help with all apsects of the car and its rebuild. Although I belive he'll never get a job as a "Brick Layer or Dumper truck driver" His efforts regarding all things Imp are commendable. Top Job Stuart !

I will up load more pictures at relevant stages of the build just to keep you all informed.

On a seperate note. This forum has gone a little quiet again recently but I think we should try and get a list of Special saloon cars (Imps, Clans, Davrians and Ginetta G15's) together and get some momentum back into what is undoubtedly a fantastic opportunity for a championship. My passion and subsequent career in Professional motorsport is down to Special saloon imps and mainly the cars of Harry Simpson and Ian Forrest at Ingliston and Knockhill. And I know full well that there must be a substantial number of cars out there that have not been scrapped or butchered and could be turned around and raced. Come on Lads, lets get this show on the road !

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 pm

nice work piers ,i think i need to get my arse in gear and make a start on my latest project

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Stakhanovite » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:05 pm

Had a cup of tea with Harry Simpson today, he's just finished building a Ginetta G4R lotus twincam -he'll be doing the Scottish series at Knockhill 2013.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Teddie2003 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:25 pm

Mervyn Brake, Maguire at Ashes, Gurston Down.jpg
Mervyn Brake, Maguire at Ashes, Gurston Down
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Mike Prescott at Ashes, Gurston Down.
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Mike Prescott at Cricket St Thomas, car was possibly a Mason?
Car was destroyed in a crash at Wiscombe Park.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by maguire imp » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:27 pm

I like the pictures teddy any idea were the car is now ?
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Randywanger » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:38 pm

Saw this on another forum with a thread on abandoned cars... has it been recovered and restored?

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by malcolm uk » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:21 pm

Met club members at Race Retro who directed me to the forum.

Does anyone have pictures of the special saloon race car known as the "Camifornian" which was built for Denis King by Norman Abbott in 1968?

I am writing the first part of a series of illustrated articles for the British Racing Mechanics Club membership about special saloon cars and the elongated wheelbase was of course the most striking feature of this fastback. For the purist the 2.01 litre Ford Lotus Twin Cam engine and Hewland gearbox in a space frame rear may be sacrilege, but for me this was one of the earliest truly 'special' special saloons. Please contact me at " mbp01 at sky dot com".

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by knocker » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:10 am

big J wrote:Just thought I'd copy the car of Kevin Cole from Chris's thread.Cracking machine. :D
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Can anyone give me a contact number or e-mail address for Kevin Cole.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by Megapin » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:13 am

pm sent
Modsports Suzuki SC100,
Modsports Spaceframed Stiletto
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by mapman » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:07 am

Just noticed this going for auction tomorrow in Northern Ireland:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C369581

Is this the ex-Harry Simpson Maguire?
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by speeddemon » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:37 pm

keith scotts car i think. thats strange the guy was advertising to sell imp fibreglass panels on ebay 2 week back mmmmmmm.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by ImpRookie » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:15 pm

big J wrote:Les Campbell just sent me some more pics,and exotic ones too!
This is a March F3 with variously a Vaux 16v or BDA/BDG? coupled to a Hewland box, then owned by Kevin Day.
Good man Les,bang on. :D
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Has anyone any information on this car?

Who built it? was there only the one?

March based F3 chassis, any idea of model number of March?

John Donnelly, Are you building a similar car? i am not far from you.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by oneofapair » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:15 am

Wasn't this the "Rally Car" in the aforemetioned Auction??
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