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Dang,Col
On a personal note,is there anybody out there with pics of the Citroen engined spaceframe that Ray Payne built?
I'd be fascinated to see how it was done.
http://www.theimpclub.co.uk/gallery/ima ... age_id=564
http://www.theimpclub.co.uk/gallery/ima ... age_id=712
You cant copy pictures from the album onto a thread??????
On a personal note,is there anybody out there with pics of the Citroen engined spaceframe that Ray Payne built?
I'd be fascinated to see how it was done.
http://www.theimpclub.co.uk/gallery/ima ... age_id=564
http://www.theimpclub.co.uk/gallery/ima ... age_id=712
You cant copy pictures from the album onto a thread??????
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I thought that was built by Ray cars and loosly based on a widened version of their formula ford car chassis with same body as the Darrian mould. I didnt know Ray Payne built it unless the two Rays are a coincidence. Car was smashed by Gary some years ago and he told me he didnt think the chassis was repairable.
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This could be it obviously about to overtake the radical on the apex of the bend.grahamdelooze wrote:
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You could be right about the car being a Ray built car and looked after by the other Ray,Graham,I dont know.
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Found some pics on ten/tenths forum
****post edited to include comment from Kevan McLurg and myself
Thruxton,pale green Maguire Stiletto is Barry Reece,later to suffer from chronic injury from which he would never properly recover,passed away shortly after.(I guess that the vids I posted before were some kind of memorial event.)****
Pale yellow Imp is Roger Gill
****post edited to include comment from Kevan McLurg and myself
Thruxton,pale green Maguire Stiletto is Barry Reece,later to suffer from chronic injury from which he would never properly recover,passed away shortly after.(I guess that the vids I posted before were some kind of memorial event.)****
Pale yellow Imp is Roger Gill
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Looks like a tidy blue Imp spectating in that last pic, poss a Sport?
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Wish id been old enough to see all this action , real shame theres no DVDs about
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Les Campbell has been in touch,Finlay Whyte has unearthed some shots of his dad, Johns, old car.
This is the Wilmot Breeden car discussed earlier.
Wiscombe in the wet
Prescott
At an autotest in Japan
As she is now in Japan
This is the Wilmot Breeden car discussed earlier.
Wiscombe in the wet
Prescott
At an autotest in Japan
As she is now in Japan
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Can anyone identify any of the unknown cars or provide any background detail to any of the pics ?
I think the blue and red Stilettos above are Pat Mannion and Brian Cutting as shown in the vid Col posted up?
It's strange just how little is recorded about these type of cars,either inprint or photographically,considering how many modified racing Imps there were.I can remember programs fromIngliston that Listed,iirc,around 30-40 Imps out at a meeting.
Obviously,not all would have been spaceframes,but a lot were highly modified and would have fallen into the semi-spaceframe category,which this would encompass.A semi's nearly as good as the real thing.
We need a Clive Brown to provide some background and colour.Anybody out there know Clive and could maybe give his rocking chair a kick?
Les,Finlay,Col,Leo,Gerry and Eric have given us great insight into their and others cars,but there surely must be more info/background/anecdotes about it all before it all just fades below the horizon?
John
I think the blue and red Stilettos above are Pat Mannion and Brian Cutting as shown in the vid Col posted up?
It's strange just how little is recorded about these type of cars,either inprint or photographically,considering how many modified racing Imps there were.I can remember programs fromIngliston that Listed,iirc,around 30-40 Imps out at a meeting.
Obviously,not all would have been spaceframes,but a lot were highly modified and would have fallen into the semi-spaceframe category,which this would encompass.A semi's nearly as good as the real thing.
We need a Clive Brown to provide some background and colour.Anybody out there know Clive and could maybe give his rocking chair a kick?
Les,Finlay,Col,Leo,Gerry and Eric have given us great insight into their and others cars,but there surely must be more info/background/anecdotes about it all before it all just fades below the horizon?
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Yes have e-mailed Clive about 2weeks ago he is aware of the thread and has been reading it with interest have just got Brian Cuttings phone number so will contact him at the weekend.
Some great photo's coming to light.
Some great photo's coming to light.
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knocker wrote:Come on Clive waiting for your wealth of knowledge on this subject,always an enjoyable read..
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Perhaps someone can persuade MMJ or someone similar to write a book while memories, phots and actual cars are still going strong?
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A book about maguire imps is almost complete,it will be in print in the not to distant future,i dont believe that any one should write about any thing that they have near owned,there are 7 or 8 genuine maguire imps/stilettos left in the uk and ireland,there is currently only three log booked by the rac etc,i can confirm that there is three in ireland that i know off and 4 that are definately in the uk and scotland,2 in scotland,1 in kent,and one in the heart of england,ive followed these cars for a very many years i dont know every thing but i know alot,3 cars have went to japan in the last 7-8 years
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Aah,I hadnt a clue what you were on about.knocker wrote:knocker wrote:Come on Clive waiting for your wealth of knowledge on this subject,always an enjoyable read..
Looking forward to that book,Keith.
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I contacted clive as well and he said when he finds the time he will be along ,how about mr woods ,maybe you could give him a call rob
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Howdy ding dang doodilly neighbourinos
Seeing as I'm stuck in the house,off I went on the web again.I found a thing called Flicker,which seems to be people collecting and sharing photos off the web,excellent idea
The sites a Deusie,the pics I got are by Alscarstuff and Comfortably numb.
***from Alan BYellow Spaceframe No.84 :- Tony Bridge, Hartwell Powered Maguire. Donnington Aug 1982.***
Black Davrian no73 is Steve Holland at Lydden,850 class.
Donington photos;white blue Stiletto is Mike Laws home built car circa 80.
Basil Dagge
Malcolm Bell
Rob Mason
Brian Innis,Fintray House
Seeing as I'm stuck in the house,off I went on the web again.I found a thing called Flicker,which seems to be people collecting and sharing photos off the web,excellent idea
The sites a Deusie,the pics I got are by Alscarstuff and Comfortably numb.
***from Alan BYellow Spaceframe No.84 :- Tony Bridge, Hartwell Powered Maguire. Donnington Aug 1982.***
Black Davrian no73 is Steve Holland at Lydden,850 class.
Donington photos;white blue Stiletto is Mike Laws home built car circa 80.
Basil Dagge
Malcolm Bell
Rob Mason
Brian Innis,Fintray House
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John Bothamley
Has this had a roof chop?
Col Rooney lapping the backmarkers
Basil Dagge
Has this had a roof chop?
Col Rooney lapping the backmarkers
Basil Dagge
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Some fella with his flaps open
Jim Mcgaughey and Ricky Gauld
Ricky Gauld
John Homewood
Jim Mcgaughey and Ricky Gauld
Ricky Gauld
John Homewood
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White Stiletto no83 is Mike Luck
Pat
Jim Mcgaughey in the Wallinger Imp?***from Alan B Green Wallinger Imp:- John Goulder, Donnington Aug 1982***
A griffin helmet!
Pat
Jim Mcgaughey in the Wallinger Imp?***from Alan B Green Wallinger Imp:- John Goulder, Donnington Aug 1982***
A griffin helmet!
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Renaults styling dept finally get it right
Distant cousins
Donington GT pic of the blue Stiletto with the big wing is Dave Smith 1300bda
Distant cousins
Donington GT pic of the blue Stiletto with the big wing is Dave Smith 1300bda
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Is this Imp related to the semi-spaceframe on pg4 of Andy Ciakov?
Jeff Ward and Rob Mason
***from Alan B White Davrian Stiletto 28:- Barrogil Angus Fintry 1979.***
John Whyte
***from Alan B Yellow/White No. 67:- Sandy Findlyson, Doune Hillclimb mid 90's (looks to be the same car as Dougie Scott has now)***
Ricky Gauld?
Green Stiletto no39 possibly Alan Humberstones at Lydden,Rob Mason with wheel?
Jeff Ward and Rob Mason
***from Alan B White Davrian Stiletto 28:- Barrogil Angus Fintry 1979.***
John Whyte
***from Alan B Yellow/White No. 67:- Sandy Findlyson, Doune Hillclimb mid 90's (looks to be the same car as Dougie Scott has now)***
Ricky Gauld?
Green Stiletto no39 possibly Alan Humberstones at Lydden,Rob Mason with wheel?
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I said above,a place called flicker.
What were their names,I'll edit them in when my clicking finger recovers.I'm typing this with my nose.
What were their names,I'll edit them in when my clicking finger recovers.I'm typing this with my nose.
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I think you need to buy a spaceframe imp john and then you can come and play with the rest of us out on track
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is the Jeff Ward the guy that used to run company called Wardspeed? he was based down in Dorset and I remember there being a racing Imp in his workshop at one point.
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Lol,yeah.I'm an unemployed foreigner sponging off the State.colin rooney wrote:I think you need to buy a spaceframe imp john and then you can come and play with the rest of us out on track
col
I've been thinking about it,once the Stilettos finished,I might find me a scrap Imp and do a semi-spaceframe.
I'd want to run a Peugeot engine,tho.
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Alscarstuff
Alsimpstuff
AlanB are you hiding your light beneath a bushel?
If so,top marks for your collection of photos.
Alsimpstuff
AlanB are you hiding your light beneath a bushel?
If so,top marks for your collection of photos.
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I'm noticing that some cars have a kind of squared off back arch,who made these?
Or could they be,in fact,all the same car?
Or could they be,in fact,all the same car?
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That is John Whyte, looks like "Ruin" at Fintray House. I will try and get my dad onto this thread as he will know more the Ricky Gauld cars. Steve Wilkinson has some great pictures on his gallery. including a few of the Stiletto both in Dave whitehead's and my dad's hands
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Yeah, that is my Flickr account.big J wrote:Alscarstuff
Alsimpstuff
AlanB are you hiding your light beneath a bushel?
If so,top marks for your collection of photos.
I need to try and rescan my pics at a better resolution, as some of those ones were done years ago!!
I did have a bit of info on the cars, drivers, venues etc, but sadly most of it was on my old computer which died about 5 years ago.
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Apologies if you have seen this before but it is worth watching again and again......
Kevin Cole's amazing Imp......
Turn the sound up, sit back and enjoy.......
Kevin Cole's amazing Imp......
Turn the sound up, sit back and enjoy.......
998 Davrian Imp Saloon
Davrian Mk4 Modsport Racer
Davrian Mk4 Modsport Racer
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Today at work we had one of those mobile dent guys in, Started tlking about various things, he asked why an Alfa, then I mentioned Imps and Clans, oh I know someone who shares that view he said.
Who's that? Tony Cutting , apparently still runs a car sales in Dorset, so when I get the time I'll see if I can track him down and see if he's interested in sharing any memories
Who's that? Tony Cutting , apparently still runs a car sales in Dorset, so when I get the time I'll see if I can track him down and see if he's interested in sharing any memories
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I think tony cutting had some bits for sale on the forum a while back and you will find him in the members list
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Les Campbell does it again,this time the colourful Maguire Stiletto of Duncan Fisher.Dunc hopes to have it out again in the near future.
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If you could fill in any blanks at all,Alan it would be great.Dates,venues,drivers,toilet facilities,anything at all.AlanB wrote:Yeah, that is my Flickr account.big J wrote:Alscarstuff
Alsimpstuff
AlanB are you hiding your light beneath a bushel?
If so,top marks for your collection of photos.
I need to try and rescan my pics at a better resolution, as some of those ones were done years ago!!
I did have a bit of info on the cars, drivers, venues etc, but sadly most of it was on my old computer which died about 5 years ago.
Ever find that old CCC article?
BTW,any other Scots out there in contact with the likes of Jim Mcgaughey,Ian Forrest,John Kirk,John Fyda or anyone from the old Ingliston days?Hopefully Calum Gauld can chip in with some tales from his da.
Les is doing a great job digging out pics of the hillclimbers.
Harry Simpson,I remember a Harry Simpson had a spaceframe Imp,anybody know him?
edit-what a muppet,I've already posted some pics of Harry
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How you going big j,i vote you the most popular man on here and we should get you to comment on the race when we all get on the grid,after all you started this forum topic only a few weeks back,out of all the interest we surely can get 10 racing imps/stilettos out on ther grid im definately in getting my lorries all ready and serviced to travel,im waiting
Keith (You just dont know what ill turn up with next lol)
Keith (You just dont know what ill turn up with next lol)
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Lol,thanks for the Compliment,but there's no way I could fill Leo Nultys shoes.Leo's one of the best commentators you'll ever hear.His subject knowledge is,for me,second only to Toby and Jules off Motogp.
Wanna know anythingabout racing in Ireland?Ask Leo.
Sorry,big man.
Wanna know anythingabout racing in Ireland?Ask Leo.
Sorry,big man.
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Hi John,
I agree with Keith, you have done a fantastic job, with this thread, getting all these pictures, video's and all the info on the cars, I'm sure a lot of Imp owners have been enjoying all of this.
All you have to do now is to get all the cars that are still about on to a Grid !!!!!! Now wouldn't that be a sight !!!!
Harry Simpson is on this Forum, I thought he would have had something on about his Spaceframe cars by now !!!!!
We will just have to wait and see if Harry is going to put up anything !!!!
Les
I agree with Keith, you have done a fantastic job, with this thread, getting all these pictures, video's and all the info on the cars, I'm sure a lot of Imp owners have been enjoying all of this.
All you have to do now is to get all the cars that are still about on to a Grid !!!!!! Now wouldn't that be a sight !!!!
Harry Simpson is on this Forum, I thought he would have had something on about his Spaceframe cars by now !!!!!
We will just have to wait and see if Harry is going to put up anything !!!!
Les
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Les i touched that very car last week,believe it or not i did it is currently getting rebuild and will have my bodywork on it soon,so lets just see what else we can find
Keith
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Brian sent me a couple more photo's today with the latest progress
It's coming together at quite a pace now, It wont be long before I'm
been hounded for the engine
It's coming together at quite a pace now, It wont be long before I'm
been hounded for the engine
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Was quiet tonight,so I popped over to Finland for a while
There's pictures of this car already,but apparently it has a new owner,I've lost the page.It has a 170bhp Toyota engine.
Driver Jukka Laassonen
Driver Juhanni Jakkulla.I think this is the car of Kivisto racing on the first page,and seen here-
Driver Ilkka Jutilla.I believe this is a championship winnerin SS 1300 class.
There's pictures of this car already,but apparently it has a new owner,I've lost the page.It has a 170bhp Toyota engine.
Driver Jukka Laassonen
Driver Juhanni Jakkulla.I think this is the car of Kivisto racing on the first page,and seen here-
Driver Ilkka Jutilla.I believe this is a championship winnerin SS 1300 class.
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4 wheel drive lever me thinks for the wet eventsbig J wrote:What's the other wee lever for,Stuart?
Reverse?
Choke?
Rgds
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1978 MGB Roadster
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1978 MGB Roadster
2004 HD Roadking and Sidecar
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I've been emailing Kevan Mclurg to get his input,he seems to know a lot about this era.Here is a summary of his comments and queries-
Page3
-Erling Jensens Maguire Imp was Brian Cuttings 2nd Maguire Stiletto.His first went to Pat Mannion,this car later written off?The 2nd car sold to Phil Lomas of Mobile Windscreens,then to Erling?
Yellow/blue Stiletto-Phil Lomas or Brian Cutting driving?
Mallory Park,white Stiletto and A40,Stiletto is David Enderby in a Mason car,circa 78.He later had a Maguire Imp then a Stiletto,then Karmann Ghia.
Rob Knox black and yellow car is a Ray build with Mike Iwas at Brands.
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-The blue Davrian post on Tim Duffee;the Bob Jarvis panels are the Ray panels.
Spaceframe Mason Stiletto-writer can recall 10 or so semi-spaceframe cars,no further info on a spaceframe?
Donington-white Maguire Imp is Sue Davis 850 class(?)
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George Coghill Maguire Imp-first car sold by writers father,later had it in 1980,bought from Mike Hannon who hillclimbed it,he had a bad leg and fitted a hand clutch on the gear lever.(Hannon)
Writers information would indicate that the AC3000 body was fitted toAndy Bartons March 802Hart,raced at Donington GT.
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John Homewoods Davrian Imp was the 1st built,sold to Simon Sabel then Terry Mitchell,crashed at Lydden backwards over the start line.
Forth Electrical Imp is Jim McGaughey.
White Stiletto and green Imp-Alan Humberstone 1300bda and John Schneider respectively,circa 77,78.
Page 9
Jim McGaughey is driving the Wallinger Imp,on page 11 it's Dick driving his car.Later owned by John Goulder,raced in Donington GT.
Page 10
Laser Transport Stiletto is Ernie Woods,Rob Mason driving the same car on page7
Thruxton,pale green Maguire Stiletto is Barry Reece,later to suffer from chronic injury from which he would never properly recover,passed away shortly after.(I guess that the vids I posted before were some kind of memorial event.)
Donington photos;white blue Stiletto is Mike Laws home built car circa 80.
Black Davrian no73 is Steve Holland at Lydden,850 class.
White Stiletto no83 is Mike Luck.
Donington GT pic of the blue Stiletto with the big wing is Dave Smith 1300bda
Green Stiletto no39 possibly Alan Humberstones at Lydden,Rob Mason with wheel?
My thanks to Kevan for his help.
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-Erling Jensens Maguire Imp was Brian Cuttings 2nd Maguire Stiletto.His first went to Pat Mannion,this car later written off?The 2nd car sold to Phil Lomas of Mobile Windscreens,then to Erling?
Yellow/blue Stiletto-Phil Lomas or Brian Cutting driving?
Mallory Park,white Stiletto and A40,Stiletto is David Enderby in a Mason car,circa 78.He later had a Maguire Imp then a Stiletto,then Karmann Ghia.
Rob Knox black and yellow car is a Ray build with Mike Iwas at Brands.
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-The blue Davrian post on Tim Duffee;the Bob Jarvis panels are the Ray panels.
Spaceframe Mason Stiletto-writer can recall 10 or so semi-spaceframe cars,no further info on a spaceframe?
Donington-white Maguire Imp is Sue Davis 850 class(?)
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George Coghill Maguire Imp-first car sold by writers father,later had it in 1980,bought from Mike Hannon who hillclimbed it,he had a bad leg and fitted a hand clutch on the gear lever.(Hannon)
Writers information would indicate that the AC3000 body was fitted toAndy Bartons March 802Hart,raced at Donington GT.
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John Homewoods Davrian Imp was the 1st built,sold to Simon Sabel then Terry Mitchell,crashed at Lydden backwards over the start line.
Forth Electrical Imp is Jim McGaughey.
White Stiletto and green Imp-Alan Humberstone 1300bda and John Schneider respectively,circa 77,78.
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Jim McGaughey is driving the Wallinger Imp,on page 11 it's Dick driving his car.Later owned by John Goulder,raced in Donington GT.
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Laser Transport Stiletto is Ernie Woods,Rob Mason driving the same car on page7
Thruxton,pale green Maguire Stiletto is Barry Reece,later to suffer from chronic injury from which he would never properly recover,passed away shortly after.(I guess that the vids I posted before were some kind of memorial event.)
Donington photos;white blue Stiletto is Mike Laws home built car circa 80.
Black Davrian no73 is Steve Holland at Lydden,850 class.
White Stiletto no83 is Mike Luck.
Donington GT pic of the blue Stiletto with the big wing is Dave Smith 1300bda
Green Stiletto no39 possibly Alan Humberstones at Lydden,Rob Mason with wheel?
My thanks to Kevan for his help.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps
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