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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by big J » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:49 pm

Megapin wrote:Space frame I am currently building.
Designed to run Hyabusa longitudinally in rear driving a Cosworth Diff.
Hoping to clad in Maguire Stiletto panels from Keith.

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One picture??! One picture???!!!

Oh you tease. :lol:
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Post by chris » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:49 pm

yep more coupes in please, they're the best imps
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:00 pm

front of rob's x mannion imp
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Post by knocker » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:18 pm

Thanks for putting the photo's on Col..
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Post by maguire imp » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:57 pm

What a great tread this is,it is worth while to point out that there really is some interest in imps and racing etc,we should put all these cars to gether have an open day exchange ideas,get featured in some credible magazine,i am going to set up a deal with imp component suppliers,and for people that want parts these will be available at cheaper rates,i will buy big and buy right and pass on to any (genuine) imp racing car owner,will only be available to people that own a racing imp


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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:04 pm

Keith there is lots of intrest in special saloons be it imps or mini's and part of the reason is to buy them and stick a bike engine in ,but as i said in another thread i love the sound of the imp on full chat and would rather see people do as megapin is doing and build a new chassis ,that way these special saloons will survive and with a bit of luck we may get to hold historic special saloon car races someday

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Post by knocker » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:17 pm

Keith has a good point,would be good to all meet up get a motoring magazine to do some photos.Might get some more out from hiding,would be lovely to get that grid of imps and minis together,as Colin so so so wants :lol:
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Post by Meltdown » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:31 pm

with a bit of luck we may get to hold historic special saloon car races someday
Perhaps a good moment to mention Gerry's HTS classicandracing website...
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Post by colin rooney » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:35 pm

http://hundredthousand.proboards.com/index.cgi

yes this could be the answer to get special saloons back on track
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Post by speeddemon » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Id like to get involved with what col has suggetsed so ive just emailed. There is also a northern based series that races currectly at Oulton park and anglsey which has big grids and its a good crack.

i think colin the problem will be there are lots of old stuff out there which wont be upto spec and will never be rebuilt within the forseable future , then theres the point of suppliers wanting daft money for stuff. You know my view on that. Lets see what happens though
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Post by big J » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:07 pm

Couple of pics of a Finnish coupe owner Kai Saarenmaki
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Post by big J » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:21 pm

Whoops,missed one of Les's pics
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Post by stuartbrownsey » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:01 am

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A couple more pictures of the mason imp currently under restoration

If all goes to plan it should be out next season competing in the semsec championship
The owner is making a stunning job of the rebuild, it should be very competitive.
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Post by AlanB » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:18 am

here's a few more pics to add to the thread.

John Whyte's BDH engined British Hillclimb Leaders Championship winning Imp:-

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Post by AlanB » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:23 am

Mason Stiletto at Knockhill (semi spaceframe):-

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Post by big J » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:41 am

These are fantastic,great stuff.Stuart,any chance of getting the owner to take some nekkid pics. :lol:
Alan,a Knockhill regular!Where on earth did all the 1000 special saloons from Ingliston go? :shock:

Love those "spokey" wheels.What are they,Compomotives?
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Post by knocker » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:27 am

Have some up to date pictures of the mason imp project,can honestly say will be a work of art the owner Brian is a right old woman :lol: :lol:
Will e-mail them to Colin should really work out how to do it myself!!
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by speeddemon » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:10 am

Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by big J » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:24 am

I'm afraid they handle appalllingly,Maurice Cullen cant even go round a corner but the things trying to tip over :wink:
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Speedy had a pic of Leo Nulty taking an EVO something round the outside,on 3 wheels,I'll try and find it

Found it,cracking pic,Leo passing the EVO.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by big J » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:41 am

There's these as well-Maurice Cullen

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by big J » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:53 am

And while I think about it,better put these in-
Maurices gorgeous Davrian Imp
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Leos' immaculate example
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:07 pm

Davrian imps handle as good as a spaceframe i think you will find its all down to driver style and Maurice likes to have the car set up soft so it digs in and lifts the front wheel as high as in the picture above ,all imps will tend to get a wheel of the ground like the 1 of leo going around the outside of the evo ,this is down to the short springs and the suspension being strapped up to stop the shock dropping and the spring becoming loose

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Post by Leo Nulty » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:46 pm

Hi all, great thread! Good idea John! I'll have a root around and see what I can dig out. I actually have some great pictures of the old <1350cc Irish GT class, which Col's father Dan dominated in the late 80s and early 90s, despite the presence of numerous Davrians, 1380 Minis and semi spaceframe Midgets! I'd like to think I am having similar battles with similar cars these days but the ban on slicks means that even with track improvements, I can't get anywhere near the times Dan used to so around Mondello 20 years ago! Mind you, I'm lucky I have the tyres to blame cos I wouldn't fancy my chances in a straight fight with Mr Rooney Senior anyway!!!
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Post by Leo Nulty » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:50 pm

Here's a great picture of David Hall in his 1220cc "Hallspeed" Davrian Imp at Mondello.......

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Post by colin rooney » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:56 pm

Cracking picture there leo of hall leading mick hills beetle with fintan cunningham in the mini not sure who was in the escort but thats basil dagg in the rawlson imp ,think at the time of this race my dad was working is tanzania and was due back the following weekend which he was a bit upset about as he would have loved to been out with the english cars,

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Post by Leo Nulty » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:44 pm

speeddemon wrote:Whilst we have some people here who have actually raced , whats the throw on the davrian shaped imp. The one which has like a box shaped bodywork similer to the white one in the gallery. How did these fair ith regards to handlling etc.

Thanks mike
Yeah, as ever, Col is spot on. I haven't really started changing the chassis set up on mine (the white one in the gallery) as we were chasing a misfire and a soft brake pedal most of the season, but I do intend to play with it a little this year. It tends towards a little understeer on turn in but if I throw it in it is fine, then it is a matter of timing. As soon as I feel the back beginning to let go (before the apex) I stand on the power and it just squatts and goes, that is where it gains most time on other cars. If I am slow in getting the power on, it will need an armful of opposite lock to sort it and is easily held, but this slows the corner exit. You can see most of this on the above youtube clip, especially on the last corner when the back can brake away just after turn in. (Ignore lap one, that's one of my many boo-boos!!)
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:31 pm

few pics that leo sent me to stick on 1st is halls imp
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ned murrays rawlson infront of my dad in his original imp which was an x fraser car and he still has the fuel tank and reverse gear lever the throttle pedal and clutch rest pedal are still in my race imp plus steering wheel
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this is the vivan candy imp which was originaly david halls imp
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and this is a rear shot of hall or candy
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Post by colin rooney » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:40 pm

Pan mannion in the revolution wheels stiletto
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Post by stuartbrownsey » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:25 pm

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A couple more pictures of the car before the decision was made to make a continuation spaceframe

The engine will be very high spec including dry sump and fuel injection running 8 injecters
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by speeddemon » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:49 pm

Guys , i need a picture of the chimp , can someone put one up, preferably from all angles. Thanks mike
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by chris » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:00 pm

I do like to see the Davrian kit in action, can someone tell me please if they where full or semi's? this is my mk1 kit grafted onto a steel shell that I would like to do a semi, starting with the front.

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Also if people do do a little meet up with the spaceframes Id love to come along if youd let me!, I know mine isnt one but it yearns to be one of the kool kids lol.
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Post by maguire imp » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:06 pm

Guys this is a good thing sure enough,this is the most interesting toy shop that ive ever seen,now lets get them out to race and have a massive meet in ireland and the uk,i am in,i can bring three or four racing imps with me that i own no problem,it seems weve started a revival and one of the most viewed forum pages on this site :shock: :D


Lets get going


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Post by chris » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:08 pm

yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics!
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Post by maguire imp » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:11 pm

[quote="chris"]yep ace post this I love seeing the old pics, I think Iv visited this site more in 2010 already than the whole of 2009 just to see these pics![/q
So we encouraged you then to view our pages,that is positive

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Post by Bevan IMP » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:12 pm

A Bevan Spaceframe IMP..

This is the only Bevan Car I can actually remember racing.

It used lotus parts for the supsension with a ford BDG engine and Hewland Gearbox.

It was actually the last Bevan car.........

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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by speeddemon » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:20 pm

some nice peices of kit coming out and well done on yours chris. looks well.

The last one looks a pure monster.
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Re: Spaceframe Imps

Post by colin rooney » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:35 pm

Chris most of the davrian imps were full fiberglass but there was a few which had a spaceframe chassis ,but i know that leo's and Maurice's cars are all glass

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Post by chris » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:42 pm

Thanks Colin, I didn't realise they where full fiberglass, interesting that fact!
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